no but i do know a bit about hcg levels. a high level really doesn't mean it is definitely multiples. it can be, but not always. this is copy pasted from a site. " A high level of hCG can also mean a number of things and should be rechecked within 48-72 hours to evaluate changes in the level. A high hCG level can indicate:
* Miscalculation of pregnancy dating
* Molar pregnancy
* Multiple pregnancy
" ↑
My ultrasound is on the 21st. I will be 28 dpo, (although this is an IVF of 2 A+ blasts so actually I'll be 23dp5dt) or six weeks pregnant exactly. We're pretty sure it's two, as my numbers are twice the average. I was hoping to find other IVF moms here to compare and prepare. ↑
oh ok. well just don't get your hopes up for two, because for every lady i've read about that had high hcg's (ivf is not a factor in the levels) they had singletons. ↑
well, i do see your inability to be reasonable considering i'm the only one answering you. so sorry i don't know everything there is to know about IVF, but last time i checked, only pregnancy was a factor in hcg levels, other than trigger shots. it's called being nice. saying to not get your hopes up for twins just in case it isn't. that isn't being mean at all. are you for real? bitching at the only person who cares enough to post? if you are so highly educated on the subject of IVF, go google it. because i posted from a site that i googled that you obviously can't be bothered doing on your own and you brushed it off. why don't you ask your doctor if you're so worried about it? it's been 5 days now? no one here is a doctor and anything we say won't matter until you check with them anyway. fyi high hcg levels can also indicate down's syndrome, so i think you should ask your doctor. you obviously won't listen to anyone who hasn't had an ivf. ↑
As my question was clearly directed at someone with first hand information ( and not google, how rediculous) then I'm kind of wondering why you are responding at all? Your assumptions about a subject you quite clearly have no clue about could be damaging to a lesser informed person. And trying to be nice? What a joke. Trying to sound superior? more accurate. I'm not here for an official diagnosis. That's what my RE is for. I'm here for anecdotal and real-life experiences. Of which you have none in this case. Being assumptive and bitchy wont further you in real life, FYI. An dig/joke? about Downs syndrome? are you 5? And in the real world, educated women know the real risks of twins. Want them? I'd MUCH rather have a healthy singleton pregnancy. I would never intentionally risk one child to have two. That said, I'm pretty sure I've got two in here, and was looking to compare my numbers with others'. Not with google, which those of us actually dealing with true infertility and IVF know is bunk. ↑
Hi MAMA-BEANS and welcome back! So, you are having another one (or two)! Congrats. I know it is probably scary with everything you have been through but since you did IVF, it does sound like the chances are pretty good for 2 (or more...gulp!) TEDDY- Mama-beans has been a member for a long time on here and sort of stopped coming around because of all the unprescribed clomid posts on here and the fights. I don't think she is really hoping for twins. After what she has been through she is probably a little worried about it. She knows that HCG levels are questionable but probably would like someone who has been through IVF with high HCG levels to share their outcome with her. She isn't like many of these women who try for twins or are really crazy about wanting them. ↑
TEDDY- I didn't read all your posts and now that I have, I have to say I am really shocked of your response to Mama-beans implying that she could be having a molar pregnancy or down syndrome baby. That is a hideous thing to say. You usually are a lot more level headed and nicer person than that. You being 12 weeks along yourself, I'm sure would not want someone to respond to your questions with statements of passive-aggressivly saying there is something wrong with your baby. ↑
mama-beans: ah yes because google is full of useless information and never directs anyone towards a helpful site...obvioulsy you're google illiterate. i responded because no one else did and people who know anything about pregnancy know that a high hcg level does NOT necessarily mean twins, which i passed on to you. you can ask anyone else. it does not guarantee you multiples. duh. next time i suppose i'll let you post be ignored and buried like it should have been, obviously. i wasn't trying to sound superior you ninny. i was trying to keep you from getting your hopes up that you had twins so you wouldn't be upset if you didn't. if you think that's mean, then you're too hormonal to be in public right now. i think you have anger issues, because high hcg's can also be a sign of down's. informing someone isn't making a dig at someone so how about you stop being the bitch in all of this. i'm not out to attack you. i gave you the little amount of information on your question that i had and you immediately came after me for it. go ask your doctor. it has been a week since you asked your question and your doctor will have the best answers for you. but i suppose you know everything so you only asked for no reason. no one said anything about the risk of twins. no one cares. ivf has a higher rate of twins than natural i suppose, but i never had to go that far, so i don't know. don't get up me for that. your little buddy didn't come along until a week later, so your post would probably have been buried by the annoying clomid posts that pop up, so at least someone kept it up there. oh and if you're looking for the perfect forum, why not go to the problems getting pregnant forums where women who've actually had ivf are and stop bothering the women here that are mostly pregnant with twins naturally. ↑
samehere: i don't care how long she's been here. i was trying to be nice and she took everything as a personal attack on her and her unborn child, so she got bitchy. i know just as much about these retarded clomid posters that can't stay in one post and i've commented in a lot of them that they should stick to one post because this isn't a clomid board. from the way she was talking, she said she was sure she had two and anyone would take that as that she is wanting to have two and wanted to know other women's levels to see if maybe she was having them too, so i said to not get her hopes up because no one wants to see someone let down if they were hoping for it and don't get it. how is that mean? explain that to me because she can't wrap her head around someone being nice, obviously. and what is wrong with the two of you? i freaking googled high hcg levels and it said those were the possiblilities so i thought i'd put that in there. i'm not implying she's having one of those, but i mean if someone's got a big lump in their breast would it be horribly mean to say it might be cancer so get it checked? no! high hcg levels can be good or bad so she should get it checked either way. that's a no brainer. i never said there was anything wrong with her baby. only that those are the possiblilities with high hcg levels. a doctor will tell her the same thing until they can rule things out. will she slap her RE for telling her that? because they just might. once again i was never tyring to be mean, but she's one of those "smarter than everyone" people who you can't tell shit to. so sorry, but i'm not here to kiss her ass. next time, i'll let her posts be buried considering she's not even in the right boards. ↑
i do understand, now, though that she would like other moms who have had ivf and had multiples to share their hcg levels. i get that now. and my doc doesn't do hcg levels, and i wasn't ivf, so unfortunately, i'd be no help comparison-wise. ↑
Congrats Mama-beans! You are one of us!!!! So much for the HCG levels being something bad. I don't usually tell women with high HCG levels that it could be twins but I sure had a hunch for you. That and also knowing it was IVF so your chances were very high from the start with the high HCG levels to support the suspicions. I know you are scared but I am so happy for you! ↑
Mama-beans: How wonderful! Congratulations! I had a sono yesterday at five weeks. One sack with a yolk sack. So, I am assuming only one baby unless we end up with two in that sack! Unlikely! I am sure you are just thrilled! How many weeks along are you? Were you able to see the heartbeats? I have another sono next Thursday, 6 weeks 2 days then, and am hoping to see a heartbeat! Congrats! ↑
The sacs measured just a few days shy of 6 weeks, so we couldn't say with absolute certainty that we saw heartbeats, although we're pretty sure we did. The tech said "I see them, but they are too small and faint to be absolutely sure about, the babies are just so small right now" so I'm going back in next week. ↑
Congrats, mama-beans! i too am expecting twins through IVF. I am now 10 weeks. I was hospitalized for a week with OHSS in the beginning so my beta # is sort of unusual. But at 9dp5dt it was only 84. We thought for sure it was just one because of the low #. My beta rised very slowly and the day i left the hospital after getting some what back to feeling better the beta level jumped. It is so interesting to hear everyone's #'s. If i had read your post in the beginning i would have guessed twins for sure!! So congrats and enjoy!! ↑
Mama - i just happened to glance over here and i wanted to totally congratulate you. I totally understood you about the beta contraversy though beta levels could go either way really meaning nothing or something with IVF we are already "ahead" of the game then most people with transferring embryos and blasts so betas should range higher than a natural conception. I am so happy for you. My FET with 3 excellent quality blasts at 10dpo was 292 and 14dpo was 1392 and it was just one as you know hes now 12 weeks old. We thought for sure multiples and it wasnt. Please keep in touch and swing over to the IVF thread if you want so we can keep in touch. ↑
