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Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Sep 1st, 2006 12:00 AM
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Name: Daniella | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 11:00 PM
Suzy- I kept checking the post just waiting and waiting for your news. I am so sorry.. not the new any of us wanted to hear but please know that we are hear for you. I am so sorry you have to go through this yet again. Maybe nothing was medically wrong with the pregnancy but just that your body couldn't handle 2. In that case I am sure you will go on to going full term and end with a baby in your arms. Please stay strong and do not lose hope!!! When they took all your blood, how was your HCG going? Was it still doubling or did it start to go down or not double as much?? Do you have any pictures of the scans? Gosh, I am so sorry to hear this. Really breaks my heart! You are definitely in my prayers. ___Daisy- how are things on your end?? 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 1st, 2006 2:34 PM
Daniella, thanks for asking. I'm currently on cd 11 and should O in about 8 days. I've been gear'n up my hubby. I just bought 4 boxes of the digital opk's on ebay and told my hubby that once they are gone, if it happens, it happens. It took us over a year to get pregnant with Ethanael and the pregnancy, I tracked my cycle one month and then the next one we succeeded.....only to mc. We're hoping it will be different this time around.

How are you doing? Do you think you will try for another baby? I read your story and it's truly a miracle. It's been really great having you here with us and sharing your insight. Thank you for that. 

Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Nov 3rd, 2006 1:31 PM
Hi, ladies. I just got back from my surgery and everything seems to have gone fine. They did another scan this morning and, of course, nothing looked different. Just two sad empty sacs. Poor little twins...just never had a chance to start life. It was so hard to see the image, but at least it took away some of the uncertainty of having a procedure again. You know how difficult it is to make the decision to have it in the first place. I just can't believe I'm not pregnant anymore. The ONLY good thing is that I can start coping now and grieving for real. I didn't know how or what to think and feel for weeks, and now I do. Plus, at least my morning sickness will start going away. I didn't mind having it (was thankful for it) when I thought things might be going well, but it was just a sad, frustrating reminder once I knew things weren't going well. Anyway, thank you both a million times over for your prayer and support. I really feel like I can turn to you both. Pamela, I'm excited that you're getting close to O-day again! I just want so badly to hear good news, and that would be such good news to hear if you get pregnant this time! Daniella, I agree with Pamela on what an amazing story you have. It is so inspiring to hear that you now have a beautiful baby to hold in your arms. It's stories like that which give me so much hope. Anyway, thanks again for being there for me, gals. It means a lot to me. 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 3rd, 2006 3:34 PM
Suzy, I'm so glad the procedure went good, just not happy about why you had to have it. I can't believe you were carrying twins. I keep welling up, this wasn't supposed to happen to you again. I'm so sorry, I really wish there was something I could do. Right now, I'm wrapping my arms around you giving you the biggest mom hug ever! God bless sweetie, I'm grieving with you. How is your husband doing? 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 7th, 2006 3:51 PM
Hi sweetie, just thought I would check in and see how you're doing. Don't worry about responding right now, just want you to know you're still in my thoughts, heart, and prayers. God bless. 

Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Nov 7th, 2006 6:46 PM
Hi, Pamela...Wow...you just have no idea how much your kind, sweet words and your support mean to me. I mean, you know how lonely it can be to go through this experience, and it just makes me feel so much better knowing that you're there, even when I don't update as much. I don't know why, but this time, I just feel so lonely with it all. Maybe it's because, the first time, I could chalk it up easily to being something that just "happens." Now, I'm so scared that something else is wrong and that this is just going to keep on happening. With all my heart, I just pray that these were flukes, that the likelihood of it happening again is just tiny. My second pick would be that something relatively "easy" to fix is causing it, so something like thyroid or progesterone. I just can't stop thinking that I lost two this time. I keep wondering why it is that not even one was viable. I mean, like Daniella said, it could just be that my body couldn't handle two. But, I really do feel the loss of two this time as opposed to just an overall sense of loss. Those were two little lives who just never got going. Argh...sorry to be such a downer. Physically, I'm doing great. No complications this time (I had trouble breathing after the last surgery as well as phlebitis from the IV). I spotted some on Friday, but haven't spotted at all since. I know that it'll pick up, though. I'm just waiting. Last time, it took about 3 days before the spotting started. I think it's taking awhile because I was on methergine, which is supposed to stop bleeding from occurring. Emotionally, my husband and I are just taking it a day at a time. He's always so stoic and typically, he shows sadness by being more run-down than usual. He's been really tired and seems to be coming down with a bug, but that seems to happen often when he gets upset. I think that since this pregnancy was difficult almost from day 1, we were semi-prepared this time so while we're definitely sad and grieving, we don't have the utter shock that we did last time. Last time, I just holed myself up for a few weeks and wouldn't talk to anyone. I was just so crushed because it had looked like everything was fine. This time, we wanted to believe things were fine but we just couldn't, and it was not surprising when we saw the ultrasound last week. It's a strange feeling, because for as unsurprising as it was, I still feel this emptiness and despair, and part of me just thinks, What for?? I didn't get to see a heartbeat this time, things looked bad from the start, but I just feel like I lost more than two empty sacs. Anyway. Thanks for checking in. :) How are things on your end? You must be getting really close to O time! Get your hubby ready!! ;) Just out of curiosity, how did your husband react with your loss? Did you find that there was anything that particularly helped him or you in terms of your interactions with each other? 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 7th, 2006 10:52 PM
Suzy, you'll never be a downer, but this is a time for greif and healing, and you have to do what is right for you and in your own time. It just makes me cry. It doesn't matter how prepared you are for loss, there's that one word that is always in our hearts and this is HOPE! Twins, who'd a thought, it's so amazing. Will they try and figure out what is going on this time. It seems as though this was different this time. Whereas before you got to see a tiny heartbeat. Maybe your body wasn't ready and that's what went wrong. I keep hoping it's something simple as well. Men always handle greif differntly. My hubby was there and is still there from day one. He cried with me at the OB office and he's cried with me after. We had a hard time preparing for Oct 15 for lighting the candles and placing Morgan's cross in front of his tree. His parents wrote a goodnight letter and we all just broke down, then again when saying a prayer. I'm crying now just thinking of all that's happened to us and to you and your family. It's not fair and it's hard not knowing why! I feel like I'm on an emotional ride and can't get off. I no longer trust HPT's. I got another faint positive yesterday on a CVS +- within the 10 min. read time, but don't know if it's evap. My body is so out of wack I don't know if it's possible to ovulate on cd 10 considering I just ended my period a few days earlier. But I had been feeling odd. My temps haven't really spiked either, but what if I'm not doing it right? We are going to test again on Friday. We have been bd'ing just in case though. I have had some cm build up, but not ew yet. I'll keep you posted and when you can, you do the same. Just know that I'll be peeking in and checking in with you. You have a blessed evening and know that God is watching over you both. Sorry if I gave tmi. 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 12th, 2006 3:37 PM
Suzy, just thought I would check in with you and see how you are this week. Don't know if you saw, I did a digital and it came back not pregnant. I'm ok with that since I was just confused. I haven't ovulated yet and I'm on cd 22 or 23, so maybe I'm having a long cycle again. At this rate, I think you'll be expecting again. I'll just be happy to ovulate or get my period. You guys take care. God bless. 

Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Nov 12th, 2006 10:41 PM
Hmmm....this is such a confusing situation, huh? Maybe you are having a long cycle, or maybe something else is going on. I'm just suspicious of the faint positive you got with the other hpts. Digitals aren't quite as sensitive as, say, First Response, so it's definitely possible that just a trace amount of hcg was picked up by the FRER but not by the digital. I think that if you don't ovulate soon, you might want to check with your doctor. It's possible that something might be preventing your cycle from getting back on track. Have you taken another non-digital hpt since the other day? I'd be curious to see if you're still getting a faint positive. So bizarre. Goodness, though, I am so sorry about all the frustration you must be feeling, plus, I'm sure it just dredges up sad feelings at the same time. After a miscarriage, I think it really helps to start looking forward to something again, and ttc again can be both exciting and anxiety producing. But when ttc gets confusing again, I'm sure it just puts a halt on the excitement component of it all. I find that I still get so upset over my first lost baby and that the latest loss doesn't override the first one. I can see that you're a lot like me in that it's not just something that happens, and then you move on. I never entirely moved on from the first loss, and I probably never will entirely. I just wish this whole thing - ttc, pregnancy, etc. - were easy. I know, wishful thinking. But for some people, it's just a snap of the fingers. Waiting for O-ing is hard enough, but when it takes its sweet time, it probably feels like forever! I'm thinking it'll probably be another week and a half (at least) before I ovulate again. Last time, I got my first period 4 and 1/2 weeks after my d&c. I'm pretty sure that my hcg is higher than last time, so I'm thinking it'll take a few days longer. I've heard that it can take up to 8 weeks for a first period! I hope that's not the case, but the good news is, I can take a little bit of a breather from worrying about ttc, what happens if/when I get pregnant, etc. Don't get me wrong - I can't wait to get pregnant again. It's just amazing how all-consuming it can become, though. Fortunately, I think my husband's on board to ttc again ASAP. His way of grieving is very "let's-fix-this" oriented. If he could've gotten me pregnant the day after my d&c, he would've because he just wants something to look forward to to get his mind off the loss. I'm more of a dweller, but I can definitely relate to wanting something good to look towards. Anyway, enough of my ramblings. I hope you're doing wonderful and feeling better after (during?) such an emotional rollercoaster. Keep me udpated, okay? And if you have doubts, do call your doctor because sometimes, having answers can really alleviate the anxiety that uncertainty can produce. Till then, hang in, and have a wonderful night! 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 14th, 2006 10:38 PM
Suzy, so haouppy to hear from you. I pray all is well and you'll be bd'g in a few weeks. I'm so happy your hubby is so supportive. Mine is too. You'll be happy to know on my end that I got my positive opk on the digital, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that smiley face. I did a different one later and it was positive as well. So, I'm lying here for another hour, I still stay here for 2. I think something was wrong last ovulation. My cm was so strong that it was irritating me, like sore. Then my hubby was real read and sore as well. This happened one time before while ovulating. Not sure what caused that. This time, is normal as usual. So I'm assuming that if it was irritating to us, no sperm could survive that.  

Name: Daniella | Date: Nov 15th, 2006 9:06 PM
hey gals, been a while since I posted... Daisy thats great to hear your ovulating (or have already)... wish you luck in your 2ww. I know that Im not TTC like you girls but I am trying to keep track of my cycle, etc. My 4 periods after my son were exactly 31 day cycles. Which my whole life I have never once had a regular cycle so I was so happy. I also had positive OPK's on CD 17. So that was perfect. Well.. this past cycle I never got a + opk and my temps are on the all time low. They are usually at 96.8 - 97.2 and they haven't got mucy over 96.4 lately. Well, I am on CD38 and still no sign of AF and my temps are still low so probably because I never ovulated and who knows when I will get AF again. I have 6 more months before we TTC again and was hoping to stay on a good track by then and it looks like thats not going to happen. Suzy- after my D&C my HCG was down to 5 at just over 4 weeks post the surgery. And I ovulated and conceived only days after that. So, between 4.5 - 5 weeks after my D&C was my first ovulation and conception. You ovulate again as soon as your HCG hits 0. So if you want to concieve right away then bd around that time. :) I believe your body will take to when ready. At such early losses your body jumps back rather fast. My best pregnancy out of the 4 was from when I got pregnant right away after the last loss. Never even got an AF first. lol. So good luck!!!!  

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 16th, 2006 7:03 PM
Daniella, so good to hear from you. I was wondering where you were. According to Ovusoft, I ovulated yesterday, but my temps didn't start going up till today. My coverline temp is 97.5, I have been teetering around 97/97.1 for 5 days then this morning went up to 97.4. My afternoon temp is higher than usual as well, yes, I temp twice. That was 98.3 which normally is mid 97 range. I'm not good with the charting, this is my first time. The last time I got pregnant using opk's, the conception date was 3 days later. So I'll have to see what my temp is in the morning. God Bless. 

Name: Daniella | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 1:12 AM
Yup Daisy, sounds like you ovulated yesterday. Your temp goes up AFTER ovulation. Mine is normally 96.8 - 97.2 and after ovulation spikes to 97.6 - 98.2 (weird, huh? lol) anyhow... I used to always have 31 day cycles and today I am on CD40 and no sign of AF much less ovulation. My temp is so low right now at 96.4..... so, I know I didn't ovulate this cycle and not sure I am going to. If I dont get AF in another month, I may have to go on provera again. Before I got pregnant with my son my AF's used to be about every 3 months. They were never regular. Mostly do to a lack of progesterone. My body just doesn't produce enough. I thought having my son fixed it, but guess only temp.  

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 22nd, 2006 8:28 PM
Hi Suzy, sorry I haven't checked in on you lately, how have you been feeling? Can you believe I still have 7 more days to start testing? It just creeps by. I did do a dollar tree test and a flat negative. Do you know how long it's been since seeing a plain negative? I was so happy not to see a hint of a second line within the time limit. I thought I was going crazy! I had another temp spike this morning, not sure if it means anything, but I'm grasping at straws. Thing is, I know I won't be disappointed, just gives my body more time to get healthy. Plus, some other news, we are moving to England, hopefully by February. We had been running a small successful home business when the multi-million dollar competition decided to hit us with a million dollar lawsuit for trademark infringement. None of it was true and we could prove it in court, but their millions with our thousands just wouldn't work. So our only option was to shut down the business. My husband just has had enough with American "freedom", it's not. It's all about big business and the government keeps it that way. I was a wreck all weekend and in tears. This all happened on Friday after hours, that we were served the civil summons. It's just so wrong, especially since we didn't do what they are accusing us of. So sorry to rant, I'm just so frustrated. Arghhhhhh! Danielle, how are you? I know this topic has been quite, but I think of you quite often too. God bless ladies 

Name: Daniella | Date: Nov 23rd, 2006 8:47 PM
Daisy- Hey where you originally from? and where do you live now? As far as the bfn, too early to test girl! lol.... give it a few more days. :) keeping my fingers crossed for you.  

Name: daisyusa | Date: Nov 27th, 2006 1:26 PM
I'm originally from Pittsburgh, but live in Wilmington, NC at the moment. My husband is from Nottingham UK and has been here for about 3 1/2 years. We've been packing all weekend and gearing up for a huge house sale and then are moving back to Pittsburgh just before Christmas. Everything has been moving so fast. I thought you would laugh about the pregnancy test. But I had to do it. I knew I wouldn't be and I needed to see no hairlines. I was going crazy after last month. I can't tell you how wonderful it was to see no ghost lines or hairlines or evaps. I did do a FRER this morning and it's still negative, but no evap or hairline. According to Ovusoft, I ovulated on last Friday, so no matter, it's still early. Hope you had a blessed Holiday. Suzy, I miss chatting with you. I pray you are doing well, my heart still breaks for you loss. I'm still here when you're ready. God bless. 

Name: Daniella | Date: Nov 28th, 2006 10:31 PM
Daisy- good to hear from you... according to what you decribed I would say Friday you ALREADY ovulated. Your temps spiked on Friday so means you prolly ovulated on Thursday. Putting 14dpo tomorrow for me (its wed. here) or the day after tomorrow for you. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. So, Pittsburgh, aye? My hubby's hometown is east of Cleveland and very close to the PA border. We usually fly into Pittsburgh though. So, you guys Steeler fans? He sure is. lol. and I am from Chicago so I am Bears fan. haha. Anyhow, sure hope the best for you. We are in Japan now and Christmas isn't the same but I did buy a Christmas tree yesterday (a huge one, hehe) and starting to get the holiday spirit up. Good times! Now you just need to get a BFP by Christmas day. hehe 

Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Dec 4th, 2006 3:42 PM
Hi, ladies! I promise, I have not forgotten you. I'm so sorry I've been out of touch...it's been hectic around here. We had relatives in town for Thanksgiving, and the week before that I was at a conference. I teach at a university, and now it's amidst finals so everything's just busy busy. Not much going on here, though. I'm pleased to report that, according to Fertility Friend, I ovulated about a week ago. After much debate, my husband and I decided to go ahead and give ttc a try this cycle since we decided that my body wouldn't get pregnant if it truly cannot handle a pregnancy. Besides, Daniella, your story inspired me that it can work out just fine. I'm not banking on actually being pregnant this cycle, and I decided that if I am not, then my body just wasn't ready and that's fine. Otherwise, all of my tests came back from the miscarriage. All around, the news is good. As my doctor predicted (but, as you know, I was unsure about), my progesterone was fine - very high, actually. My thyroid was fine, as were the vast numbers of clotting antibodies they tested for. Even the genetic karyotype they did on both my husband and me was fine. My doctor is in talks with a fertility specialist to see if there's anything else they should be testing me for, but seeing as how my doctor is a high risk doctor, I doubt they'll come up with much more. In the meantime, he's decided that he thinks he wants to put me on heperin next pregnancy simply because I've had problems with clotting in the past. I'm at the point where I'm willing to do ANYTHING, so a shot a couple times of day doesn't seem like too big of a deal. Okay, enough rambling about me...PAMELA, I can't believe what's going on with you and dh right now!! You are absolutely right about American big businesses - I've seen it happen too many times. For instance, my husband's been laid off twice at companies that were bought out. It's all about the bigwigs making an extra buck, screw the "little" people who lose their jobs. It infuriates me. I know it's a totally different example from your situation, but it just goes to show that these big companies don't care who they mess over, so long as they get their overinflated paychecks at the end of the day. How are plans progressing? Any new developments? So, let me get this straight: you're moving to PA now instead of England? Or are you just going to PA for a little while before "crossing the pond?" Regardless, what a change for you, but certainly an understandable one. How is ttc going? Have you ovulated yet? Any sign/symptoms? And, how are things with you, Daniella? I hope you and your family are doing wonderfully, too. Where are you from, btw? I'm in Tucson, AZ, where the weather is warm but the winters are beautiful. :) Anyway, gals, sorry again for being out of the loop for awhile. I promise I'll try to check in more often! I hope you both are doing great, and I look forward to getting updates! 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Dec 5th, 2006 3:21 PM
Wow, Japan! You must miss your family like crazy. When will you be coming home? My AF arrived a few days early, but that's ok because my cycles are starting to get back to normal. Since the mc, they have been 45 days, now I'm down to 41 and hopefully back to 34 soon. I'm du to O on Christmas eve, so I'm really praying this is it. This will be our last chance for a few months with the move and all. My hubby just purchased his plane ticket today for the 9th of Jan. We will follow about a month later. We'll be staying at his mum and dads, but they have lots of stuff and no baby proofing and ethanael is a busy body and gets into everything! So the less time there, the better. We're looking at a couple of homes nearby so we will see. The lawsuit is officially over and I thank God for that. We'll be moving to Pittsburgh in 2 weeks and our belongings are being shipped out on the 18th. I can't believe how fast all this is moving. It's so crazy here.
Suzy, it is so wonderful to here from you again, really missed chatting with you. I'm so happy everything turned out fine and you are ovulating again. You better keep us posted. You ladies have a wonderful evening and God bless! 

Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Dec 11th, 2006 12:02 AM
I can't believe how crazy things are for you right now! I'm just glad that the lawsuit is over with. That's a load off your mind, I'm sure. Sounds like plans are really progressing, though. Meanwhile, I'm glad to hear your cycle is getting back to normal. I've noticed that the body can sometimes take awhile to adjust back to normal, but it seems it's finally ready to regulate a bit. Wish I had more good news to report over here, but looks as though I just had a chemical pregnancy. I got a positive test a couple days ago, and BAM, AF just showed up yesterday. I kind of expected it since my temp took a big drop. Strangely, my period was three days early! The only reason I even took the pregnancy test to begin with was because I was having strong pregnancy symptoms again. I've heard of chemical pregnancies making a period late, but you don't hear about early very often. I guess it makes sense, though. Anyway, I'm okay with it. I'd rather it happen now then weeks - or months - from now! I'm all ready to try again in two weeks, but in the meantime, I'm going to enjoy using the hot tub and the occasional glass of wine with dinner. :) Got to look at the silver lining, you know? Anyway, I hope preparations are going as planned over there, and hopefully, you can have a relaxing Christmas at least. I think you and your family deserve it! 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Dec 15th, 2006 8:41 PM
Hey sweetie, how are you. Miss chatting with you. Things have been going so fast here. There was so much to do to get the house up for sale and the sale of household things. We did really well and sold everything within a week. I still can't believe it. Praise God! We are leaving on Sunday and spending the night in DC. We splurged on a 4star hotel within walking distance to the British Emabassy, then it's on to Pa for the holidays. Will get back on when we get there and update. I always think of you and wonder how you are. God bless, miss ya! 

Name: Daniella | Date: Dec 27th, 2006 10:24 PM
Hey Ladies, so sorry its been sooo long since I posted. I actually had a huge problem logging into this site. Ever since they changed some things with it, like now you cant type in your Email or urls, etc. I wrote this site at least 3 times and never got a reply. It wasn't until I logged into my husbands new laptop I got him for Christmas was I finally able to login. I even enabled the cookies and everything on the pc's I couldn't login. Very weird, but anyhow.... at least I can finally post now. ___ Daisy - wow, Christmas Eve, aye!? I ovulated on Dec. 23rd. haha. I completely skipped AF all together last month and it resumed as if I never skipped it on Dec. 9th. THen I got a postive OPK on Friday Dec.22nd and almost positive on Saturday Dec. 23rd, so I would say I ovulated on Saturday morning, hehe. My past 4 cycles before I skipped last month I had exactly a 31 day cycle and ovulated on CD17, so I thought I was going to ovulate on Christmas Day, but I ovulated a few days early and hubby and I bded on Thursday night. Definitely within the window of the possibility of conceiving. We are TTC right now but if it happens then it was meant. We wanted to try on our sons 1 year birthday which is in 4 months and we move back to the states in 6 months so that would be good timing. However, if it happens now then at least I will still be able to fly at 6 months pregnant. Although, my chances are only 50/50 anyhow because I only have the one fallopian tube. Heck it took us 5 years to finally have JD, but the chance is still there. I am going to test on New Years Eve just in case. I plan to go out with hubby and friends that night drinking, etc., hehe and would obviously stay clear of drinking if I am.___Suzy- Did you get your blood drawn to show + on the pregnanc? I ask only because I keep hearing about false positives lately on home pregnancy tests. I had 2 false pregnancy test when I wasn't pregnant and so many women on this site had the same thing. Especially those little dip stick tests that you buy from that early pregnancy test store online. They show horrible ghost lines that really make someone believe to be a + test. Anyhow, at the same time a lot of women get pregnant and it doesn't stick resulting in a very early miscarriage around the same time AF was due and just never knew they were pregnant and think its just AF. Either way, I believe that it will happen for you in no time and your next will be just fine. Good luck~!! PS. Hope ya'll had a very nice Christmas and have a wonderful New Year!! 

Name: Daniella | Date: Dec 27th, 2006 10:27 PM
Whoops, sorry that was "we aren't TTC right now" Also, sorry on the typos. I can't type on this laptop. lol 

Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Dec 28th, 2006 4:59 PM
Hi, ladies! And happy holidays to you both! Pamela, are you still in PA? If so, for how long? How's everything going? I hope your plans are coming along smoothly and that you and your family are doing great. Daniella, how are things with you? You have to keep us updated with what happens as a result of your early O! In terms of the test I took...after the first one, I thought it might have been a false positive. But I, being an obsessive tester, took several more and got several most (albeit very faint) positives. They got progressively lighter over the next day and then started my period. The other strange thing was that I had very light spotting at dpo 9, so right around when implantation spotting would occur. I had a bunch of other pregnancy symptoms, too, so unfortunately, I'm pretty sure those were real positives and that the whole thing was chemical (well,obviously chemical since I started my period...). I'm really okay with it, though. I'd just rather have this then be further along when it happens. I just O'd three days ago (on Christmas!) so now it's another week and a half wait! This part is always kind of exciting and frustrating at the same time. jealous at the same time. Hopefully, the new year will bring good news! Hope you both are doing great, and update soon! 

Name: Daniella | Date: Jan 3rd, 2007 7:36 PM
Suzy- Ya, Im the same way about testing. lol. Sorry to hear but like you said, better at that point then later. Just can't believe you had pregnancy symptoms when it never fully implanted. Then again, preggo symtoms and AF ones nearly mimic each other in the very beginning. I know in all my pregnancies, I never had any symptoms until I was about 6 weeks. So, you ovulated on Xmas then huh? I had my + surge around 6pm on the 23rd and almost + around the same time on the 24th. So, I figure I ovulated on Christmas Eve. Maybe Christmas day at the latest. I didn't get my temp spike until the day after Christmas, so who knows. At any rate I am at CD12 today (going by Saturday for o day) and neg. HPT and getting cramps, so I think AF will show by Saturday (in 2 days). I would think if I were pregnant the hpt would have already picked it up. My last pregnancy I test CD13 and got a VERY faint positive. Got my HCG drawn shortly after that and it was 134. Not sure why the test was so faint with that level when it was a 4 day early test detecting HCG at 20. Who knows!! I'll probably test again tomorrow morning but Im sure AF will be here the day after that, yet I have so many test from buying in bulk that it doesn't hurt to use. hehe. That would be kinda neat if we all ovulated around the same time and all got + hpt's. hehe. Daisy- have you tested yet?? Suzy- how about you?  

Name: Daniella | Date: Jan 4th, 2007 7:35 PM
Ok, I think my luteal phase is shortened or my stupid OPK's show + when you are ovulating and not before. I just got my AF and today is 13 1/2 days from my first + surge. Your supposed to ovulate 12-36 hours after the surge. That would make me getting AF 2 days early. This is the first month I have used these particular OPK's so I wonder if its just these. Every other month I got AF exactly 14 days after I ovulated. NOT after the first surge. So, this next cycle I am going to use 2 different OPK's and see if the others pick up my surge before I actually ovulate and not during. ____So, whats the scoop with you gals?? AF yet? BFP? Hope all is well. :) 

Name: Debie | Date: Jan 4th, 2007 11:00 PM
So I am new to the OPK'S .. I decided to try them this month... I thought I had missed my O cause I had the Cm and a - opk.. then a few days later I had the right CM again.. I went home and tested and the OPK was + that day and the next so I hope we did it this time..... i am on CD23 DPO7... so I am still waiting!!!  

Name: Suzy0117 | Date: Jan 6th, 2007 4:20 PM
Grrr. BFN. I caved in and tested yesterday at 11 dpo. And today, at 12 dpo, still BFN. I just had a feeling this month that it'd be negative. I'm disappointed, especially given that I just found out that my SIL is pregnant (wasn't even trying, naturally) and one of my best friends is pregnant, too. I'm so ready to have a healthy pregnancy, it's not even funny. I don't know what it is, but I have several symptoms way early on when I'm pregnant, the biggest of which is (and this is tmi) excessive burping. It's so bad when I'm pregnant, for some reason! That's the biggest thing that clued me in last month. Anyway, back to the drawing board. Maybe 2007 will be luckier. Daniella, that is strange about your luteal phase being shorter this month! I know it's possible to O on the day you get a positive opk (it's happened to me twice), but still, that doesn't explain why you were so early. How bizarre. I do the same thing, though, using two brands of opks. I just want to make absolute sure that I don't miss the surge and that I have as much "lead time" as possible, if that makes sense. How were the holidays for you and your family? Pamela, are you out there still? I hope you both are doing great and had a wonderful start on the new year! Debie, welcome. Opks are a mixed blessing - they really help me out a lot, but sometimes can be a little frustrating to interpret (hence the title of this thread!), especially if they're not aligned with your cm. I don't always get clear positives on opks, so I have to exercise a little bit of creative interpretation sometimes. 

Name: Daniella | Date: Jan 8th, 2007 1:14 AM
Suzy- I thought you said you ovulated on Christmas Day? So, Jan 6th would be 13 days from then? Have you got AF yet? If not, then there is a good chance of BFP since its past 14 days. If you did get AF then hey.... you will be ovulating again here soon and can try again. It took us 5 years to have a baby but I got pregnant the time we weren't trying. Heck, we only had sex ONE night. lol... so, it will happen. I can't remember if you have said... are you seeing a fertility specialist or anything? Also, was the D&C you had in July the only pregnancy you have had? I bet you'll be preggo again by the time that anniversary of that approaches, hehe. You should come post on our other forum. The site is the all the same but after answers-Ovulation_amp_TTC_after_M_C_or_birth That site is called the good luck site because all of us women who have started posting there has either got pregnant or already has had a healthy baby. We were waiting on one more person that has been TTC after her miscarriage and she finally got a BFP after 8 months of TTC post miscarriage. Theres a few new people posting now and just waiting for them to get a BFP, hehe. You should come over there. We are like family. :) ___Daisy- Any news your way?? ___Debie- Good luck!!! are you also doing the temp. thing? 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Jan 8th, 2007 5:03 AM
Hi ladies, sorry I haven't been around too much. I didn't ovulate until New Years Eve. My temps normally run about 98.3 post ovulation but have jumped to 98.7 and up about 3 days after ovulation. I'm going to test tomorrow even though I know it's too soon, but my hubby is leaving for England and we want to check before he leaves. We got our visas and tickets for Feb 22 and I don't know how I'm going to get through. Daniella, are you still coming home soon? I bet you can't wait! I was reading your recent posts and I was pulling for the bfp. Suzy, how are you? What cycle day are you on? My cycles are averaging 40 days at the moment. I'm hoping my temps stay up and I'm pregnant. Usually, my temps start droping now, but they haven't. We're not officially trying anymore, but I will continue to temp just to keep tabs on ovulation. I still have 2 boxes of opk's and have chosen not to use them. I have put it in God's hands. Will check back in with you gals and let you know about the test.