Hi, my question is, I appear to be pregnant, I would be about 17 weeks minimum (my fiance and I broke up in July), but I keep having my monthly bleeding (minus the usual cramps and plus extra exhaustion) around the right time, and I have failed five home pregnancy tests, one was just a few days ago. But I have had most of the other symptoms at the developmentally appropriate times, and now my belly sticks out and is increasingly uncomfortable around my ribs under my breasts. I even felt something slide against the inside front of my lower abdomen the other day.
If this is just weight gain, then why would it feel physically awkward in front and thow off my center of gravity, not to mention being accompanied by a host of other pregnancy signs or symptoms.
A while back there was a rumour among family that I was pregnant based on how I looked to people and where and how I was carrying new weight. My ex's Gram told him she could just tell, until he surprised her by saying I still have my period!
I heard of a lady who had two full -term babies and could never produce HCG, and I have heard of rare ovulation during pregancy, and I have heard personally from six different girls who bled like a normally heavy period at about the right time each month for anywhere from the first three months to full term. Most went for at least four months with this.
My abdomen continues to grow right out of pants that used to fall down all day long- and the funny thing is, they still fit pretty well everywhere else until I try to button them in front!
I don't want an ultrasond because I believe they are risky. Pregnancy is not an illness and I don't feel I need to go to the doctor for proof. Especially if I failed five urine test, why would I pass a blood test? I mail-ordered an inexpensive Mabis dual-end stethoscope that should arrive soon and in a week or two, or maybe even already, it should be far enough to seek a fetal heartbeat using the steth.
But what I want to know is, how is this possible? The only thing I can think is, maybe I am like that girl who's mum could never produce any HCG, and maybe since I take wild yam supplement it allowed the pregnancy to progress in spite of that. And if I (or my apparent pregnancy) can't produce HCG, maybe that's why I keep bleeding "on time". My other hormones certainly seem to be working plenty, that's for sure!
I have searched the internet long and hard and can't find a real explanation for all of this. Considering how many women have period-like bleeding through months of pregnancy, you would think doctors would stop pretending it doesn't happen.
But the point is, how can I be showing! and feeling pregnant yet continue bleeding and getting negative tests? My next "period" is due early in October so maybe it will finally stop arriving. But that still leaves the negative pregnancy tests.
If that stethoscope finds a heartbeat, it will finally prove I know more about my own body than my ex-fiance who wants to believe that I am "just gotten fat". ↓
Ultrasound is no risk. Go to have one and everything would be clear. What if there is no pregnancy but other problem? That is something really risky. ↑
I totaly agree with anna! i dont know where you heard that an ultersound is a risk, but thats the best way to find out the truth! Your putting yourself through stress. keep us posted I'm going through the same thing and I have one child already so I know the symptoms. I hvae an ultersound on the 19 of october. Please feel freee to e-mail me! gumgumdrops@aol.com ↑
Doctors will usually tell you that ultrasound is no risk. But the truth is that's an assumption. When tests have been done on it they have found that it is a risk. A lot of times they will try to tell you, no risk has been found, but even that's not true anymore. Most doctors are too busy to keep up with all the new information, and sometimes they find it easiest to spout the party line. In fact a lot of doctors are just pretty conservative about change, and about natural pregnancy and childbirth, and they get it in their head that they won't change their mind on certain things.
http://www.mercola.com/2001/-dec/19/ultrasound.htm
Anyway,- I don't believe in any interventions that aren't necessary, that's why I just want to wait and see. If I still can't hear any heartbeat with a stethoscope a month from now yet my abdomen continues to pop out, then I might go to a doctor.
But for now, what would really stress me is having some guy (or lady) put hands and instruments up my hooha to examine me, and scan me with machines, and take charge of my pregnancy. Really I just want to know, how can a person be pregnant, yet bleed monthly and fail tests, yet continue to progress. I know this is possible and I am hoping anybody could explain why it is possible. Maybe it is some kind of miracle, though, but I think there must be some scientific explanation even if it hasn't been found yet. ↑
Not to make this harder on you, as you obviously have had alot going on, BUT... you really need to visit the OB. They'll only get involved in as much as you want them to be... AND you could be doing more harm than good by not going. Good luck.. Keep us posted. ↑
WE CAN'T HELP YOU , OR IF YOU DONT WANT TO HELP YOUR SELF SEEMS TO ME YOU ARE AFFRAID OF THE RESULTS?!? I'M SORRY BUT YOU ARE IN 2004 IF THE ULTERSOUND WHERE THAT BIG OF A RISK THEY WOULD NOT DO THAT TO A BABY! AND I'M SORRY BUT THEY HAVE COME ALONG WAY!!!! NOW THEY HAVE ULTERSOUNDS IN THREE D, AND THEY CAN SEE A PROBLEM EARLY ON NOW! SO I DONT AGREE WITH YOU AND I THINK YOU NEED TO READ WHAT YOU HAVE WROTE AND SEE FOR YOUR SELF YOU DONT MAKE SENSE! sorry thats the way I feel, I 'm kinda upset the way you are acting! ↑
But my point is, there are those women right here on this forum who are pregnant for sure because they DID get an ultrasound, yet they are still bleeding nor can they pass an HCG pregnancy test. And I just want to know why this is possible. So, I understand that you don't know, but not wanting an ultrasound is my personal choice and if you don't know the answer to my question then, no, you can't help me, but maybe there is someone who can. I don't know why you should be upset at the way I am acting, I am just writing about my concerns on an internet forum and I don't even know you, okay? And anyway unless you are the father of someone's baby you don't really have the right to be upset at them if they don't want an ultrasound. I can wait and see if I want to and still ask the question, how is it possible in those cases where those other women have proof they are pregnant!! ↑
By the way, WHAT doesn't make sense? Is it the thing I said about ultrasound, or what I said about women who are pregnant but keep having bleeding and negative test results? Because, you can believe what you want to about ultrasound, but as far as the other thing, it has to make sense because it;s true. Some pregnant women really can't pass a pregnancy test for some reason, and thre same women often seem to bleed a lot while they are pregnant. I have talked to some, heard of others, and there are even a few of them right here on this forum. So, sorry, but THAT makes sense. ↑
Another thing- of course I am afraid of the result. If you felt and looked pregnant yet were bleeding and failing pregnancy test, no doubt you would be afraid to face the doctors too. In case I turn out not to be pregnant, I would really want to go in there armed with a scientific explanation for how I could possibly be pregnant, based on the explanation for how those other women WERE pregnant. Otherwise if a pelvic exam (still no ultraaound for me!) proves negative, I would look like I came in there on a whim instead of on four months of strange observations! ↑
nicole settle DOWN! For your info I am going through the same thing you are, for about 2 months now and they can't explain why some women bleed normal when pregnant it just happens, and about you not making sense, ultersound you can't explain why its a risk you just say it is! I have had two periods and tons of HPT and 3 blood test all NEGATIVE but when I got my ultersound down it showed a thicked uterus and thats it, meaning pregnancy but they dont know why"?!? meaning also that it could have been to early to tell! that was on the 7th of september. I have another on the 19 of october. Now the number one reason I got the ultersound in the first place was because of cyst and cancer ex.. some of that shit has signs of pregnancy"! Now then again I'm still up in the air" aren't I? But on the other had I still feel pregnant big time and I look it too. can't fit into my jeans and had to bust out some of my old maternity clothes. so in the end I know I dont have camcer and I dont have any cysts so thats roled out! pregnancy is the only thing left. Now I have been pregnant before and it showed up on 2 months not very bright but we could see the line ( positive ) so in the end nothing bad has come out of it. AND BELIEVE ME IT HAS BEEN A SCARY RIDE but better to know than not know! ↑
In the end I have been taking my prenatel vitamens and not drinking, I also have been keeping a journel about all of my symptoms from the begining. Please dont think I 'm a bad person because of my straight forward attitude. In the end peaple thank me for being me, even if the truth hurts! all I 'm saying is I think you are being childish about going to the doctors. You would kick your self in the ass if something serious was wrong and this whole time you could have caught it"! good luck and god bless.. ↑
wow! I am a 36 year old .I have a 4 year old granddaughter.About 15 years ago I had a tubal ligation after my fifth baby.I was very young.But I have feeling very pregnant with alot of movement.My stomach is getting huge.I have my periods regularly.I remember a few months ago feeling a little fluttering in my stomach.I blew it of as nothing.I am getting huge and by breast hurt continiously instead of just before my periods.I'm too embarrassed to go to the doctor.What if I'm just fat lol.My 17 year old daughter was murdered almost 3 years ago.Maybe grief has caused my body to think it's pregnant.Anyway it's nice to know that I'm not the only one feeling very pregnant.I haven't took a home test yet because I have just blew it off as rediculous because I've had my periods and had tubes tied 15 years ago.But this is getting to the point where I'm about to pop.What ever it is won't hold still.Has anyone else had this before.Could I be pregnant? ↑
I've finally found someone who's going through the same things I am.....I would suspect that I would be about 12-14 weeks pregnant (if that was even possible). The lower part of my belly above my pubic symphysis feels kinda hard. I've had 4 different people looke at me real hard and say "are you pregnant" "you look pregnant". I have had negative urine and 1 negative blood test. I have had two irregularly short "periods" (just 2 days, normally they'd be 5-6 days). All the symptoms, too.
Any updates from these ladies, or anyone going through the same things??? ↑
Anybody heard about this or went through this......???
"What could explain these rare cases of periods during pregnancy?
There are two possible explanations:
Hormone levels aren't high enough. In some women, the hormone levels in pregnancy aren't high enough to prevent the lining of the womb being lost in those areas where the placenta isn't attached. So sometimes a woman will have one episode of bleeding or more in the first month or two of pregnancy (and, rarely, throughout the pregnancy). " ↑
Hey Nicole. Well congrats, it sounds like your pregnant. I know you dont wanna go to the doctor but you really need to!! You need your pregnancy vitamins!! If you want your baby to be healthy i would highly suggest you get them, and anyways, you still should get a ultra sound. They are totally safew for the baby and 100% accurate. Going for monthly check-ups is very important for your babys health and yours. Becides, it woud also be good to know if you really are!!! It sounds like you are, but you never know! ↑
Hi, I still don't know yet, I have gotten bigger in the abdomen and now need maternity clothes but it's still not certain. I did keep bleeding on time, but less and less every time. Maybe this next one will finally stop. If I ever do find out I will try and come back to this board at least because the people here have been pretty nice overall and also there seem to be others going through this who might need to know my outcome so they can consider if it applies to them. One girl I talked to, she did turn out not to be pregnant, and she did look pregnant, so nothing is definite yet. But I do feel like there is a small volleyball in my belly! It is true, in a way you're too embarassed to go to the doc with this. What if I did just get a lot fatter and it just seems like I am pregnant. I did get a negative blood test, so what doctor would take me seriously now, since they rely so much on that kind of stuff. I didn't need to go to a doc to get prenatal vitamins, I got them otc at Whole Foods. But the idea that prenatal care can only come from a doc is a myth, a well-researched pregnant women is capable of taking good care of herself after all women have done this for many thousands of years before doctors or even midwives ever came along. And today there is lots of information readily available; and any test they do at the doctor, when you look at it, whatever they do find out there is not actually anything they can do about it unless you are willing to agree to a cesarean for unusual presentations, which I am not, or unless a person would decide to abort a fetus that has this or that wrong with it, which is not an option I would be interested in. Also, please be aware that ultrasound is not perfectly safe, research has found that the sound waves can affect the fetus, around 1 or 2% of those fetuses given ultrasound just twice in pregnancy have measureable, although very subtle, brain damage. It's not certain how much more has been caused that the researchers could not measure. ↑
By the way, someone did post an answer, thank you to them, they said that hormones could be low causing the woman to continue to bleed from places where the placenta is not attached. However long this continued, it would seem to be a reasonable explanation for how a person could also test negative and then end up being pregnant after all. Because you would think that the hormones wouldn't be high enough to test positive until they were also high enough to make the bleeding stop. So, that would be the answer to my question- although, I would like to know how doctors explain how it's possible for hormones to be that low and yet the pregnancy is still viable, because as several posters have indicated, it seems more common than people might think that some women bleed every month and yet the children make it, are born anyway, and are grown up today. Yet most doctors would insist that low hormone equals non-viable, nevermind the living proof to the contrary! ↑
By the way if any of you were wondering about the stethoscope, please make sure you buy a fetoscope. I made the mistake of buying a regular stethoscope and only after it arrived did I talk to a few obstetrical nurses and find out that they could never find their own baby's heartbeat with a regular stethoscope, in spite of having occassionally found it in others, it is not that reliable. So if you are thinking of buying one, go with a fetoscope, it costs a bit more but I wasted my 7 bucks for a regular stethocope and wish I had just spent the 20 for the fetoscope. The doppler they use at hospital to detect the heartbeat has even stronger waves than ultrasound so it can cause more damage than ultrasound. I was surprised to learn that, because Doppler is in much more frequent use than ultrasound. But if you search on the internet it's pretty easy to find a few resources that outline the dangers of Doppler and ultrasound. Generally I hera that by 20 weeks a fetoscope can detect the heartbeat for those with avergaely good hearing, unless the placenta is in front or the baby's back is pointing away from the belly. But the regular stethoscope might take until 24-25 weeks even in optimum conditions and often will not find the heratbeat in the womb almost until birth. And by then, you know you're pregnant, and with the baby moving you don't really need to hear the heartbeat for reassurance. ↑
Just wondering Nicole.....have you found any doctor that will take you seriously?? I've pretty much given up on doctors (not just for that). They all just want to make you think that it's all in our heads.
I haven't taken any more pregnancy tests, I haven't called my doctor back wanting to discuss my "birth control options".
Another 2 day (short) period has come and gone again. My breasts aren't sore anymore, but they're still pretty big. And my belly, can't explain the firmness above my pubic bone. Maybe it's my imagination, but it seems to have gotten slightly bigger.
I dunno Nicole...let us know what happens with the fetoscope, and if you hear a heartbeat!!
Ya figure these doctors would take more precaution and make sure they aren't missing a very real pregnancy....especially with the crisis of increasing malpractice suits amonst OB/GYNs and the rise of their premiums of their insurance. ↑
i actually dont have an answer at all. it does sound like you are pregnant. but i what i wanted to know is i have a friend who took a preg. test and the line came out very very faint. almost like it was just the outline of the line. does this mean it is positive or what. shes freakin and im just tryuing t o help her get an answer. i know she should just go get another preg. test and maybe she will get a more accurate answer but just curious to know if you should be able to see the outline if it is negative. any answers will help ↑
Yes women have been doing this for thousands of years.............it also used to be back then that 1 in 3 women died in pregnancy. It also used to be that a big proportion of births were miscarraiges and stillborn or death right after childbirth. The risks not detecting something wrong with baby by ultrasound are heavily outweighed by the benefits. ↑
Nicole,
I sympathize with your symptoms but I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't see a doctor. If you are not pregnant, there might be something seriously wrong (I hope not!). But if you are pregnant, why wouldn't you want their medical expertise and the prenatal care. I agree with you that expectant mothers should be educated, but I also think that an OB has WAY more knowledge than I could ever find on the web. For your & your baby's sake, please see a doctor. Please let us know how it turns out, and good luck! ↑
Hello All. I posted this somewhere else but didn't get any answers, so I hope someone will reply. My story is pretty much the same as all of you except that I am on the pill as well. I just feel pregnant, my second time around. I can't explain it, but I have all the pregnancy symptoms. Cramping, hunger, sore breasts, peeing, fluttering, nausea, once vomiting, stuffy nose, gas, etc, etc. Problem is I have started my period, a little late but still. I just still feel pregnant, my body says I am but tests say negative. All your stories gives me hope! Is there other people who this has happened to the second time around but not the first? And while using contraception? Thanks for your encouragement! ↑
I am going through the same exact thing. Only, I would be in my 6th week right about now. I am now 'bleeding lightly pink' for the 2nd time since I've suspected I might be pregnant. It's right around the time my period should be here, but I swear it's not a normal period for me (I have light cramping, - which I haven't had in YEARS). The one I had last month only lasted 3 days and I barely needed a panty liner the whole time (same with this one). A 'Normal' period for me last 4 to 5 days and by my 2nd and 3rd days I need to use super tampons - no doubt about it. Yesterday morning I woke up and found a 'stain' on my shirt right over where my left breast is - it was leaking! My breasts have been leaking while I am taking a shower - everyday for the last 4 weeks. I have also been belching A LOT, severe tingling in my nipples - aching in my breasts, nausea, dizziness, my belly button is tighter and harder to the touch, and I have had a lot of vaginal discharge. Right before I started the so-called period I had last month, my breasts leaked A LOT - and that freaked me out. The fact that it did it again before this one I am having now - makes me believe that I am pregnant. I have had a faint positive line show up on a hpt I did just five days ago. That same day I tested negative at a doctor's office. I have heard that the First Response Early Pregnancy test - tests at a lower level than the doctor's office does. Does anyone here know if that's true? Does anyone here believe that I might be pregnant also? I already have two children and they are older (not little babies) - so I do know what if 'Feels' like to be pregnant. Oh yeah...and with my first child I tested neg at a doctor's office when I was 6 weeks pg - didn't test pos until the next week. And with my 2nd child I had actually had a 'period' that was obviously implantation bleeding (it lasted 3 days and was very light). So, by the time I found out I was pg with that one, I was already 2 months.
Any help with this would be appreciated - so, thanks in advance. ↑
I would like to know where information can be found on the reasons for periods during pregnancy. I have been looking everywhere for it and this is the only sight with information about it. ↑
hey gina, how bout u IM me on aol or email me and ill send it to you a different way. it actually quite helpful. my IM is shadyette1703 and my email is Shadyette1703@aol.com ↑
Here's an update from my November 17, 2004, 23:55 post.....After at least 5 negative hpt and 1 negative blood test....after irregularly short but normal flow periods for two months.....I ACCIDENTLY FOUND OUT TWO DAYS AGO I AM PREGNANT!!!!!!! (Long story) Now I just gotta find out how far along....all I know is--I can't fit into any of my dayum pants anymore--I'm thinking I could be 3 months along!!!!! (Thought I was going crazy and just getting fat)!!!!! Keep ya'll updated!! ↑
Dee, can you tell me when you got the negative blood test? Was it a long time ago, or recently? I just got my results in and they are negative. Problem is, I feel MORE pregnant today than I have before. I am scheduled for an ultrasound next Friday and I am going to be on 'Pins and Needles' until I know EXACTLY what is going on with my body. My doctor also tested my thyroid and my prolactin levels and they were both fine. I would be 7 weeks right now if I am indeed pregnant. By next Friday I hope I am far along enough for it show up on the ultrasound. I am going crazy!
Nicole: Any news about your condition? Please let us know.
