Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 15th, 2008 10:34 PM
I went for my neucal (?) scan on thurs 12 June at 12 weeks and they found no H/b and said the bub died at 10.5 weeks. It's internal organs were forming on the outside of it's little body so it had no hope from the start. It had it's blueprint upside down and back to front. I had a dc, the following morning, friday because I just wanted it out and over with. My hcg never doubled at the 3.5 days they say so i always knew something was up. I asked the dr that did the dc and my girlie dr when we should start trying again and they said the same thing. If you ask 3 different dr's you'll get 3 different answers. Wait 3 cycles, wait 1 cycle, start as soon as your 2 week safety period is over to avoid infection. They said it's really just when emotionally you are ready, because the female body recovers incredibly fast from a 1st trimester miscarriage especially after a dc. Emotionally, we are ready because like I said, this little guy never felt right from the beginning, we always expected it as I had bleeds from the start. My dr said also that there has never been any proof of starting straight away and have it leading to another miscarriage. I also understand that you are so much more fertile because everything is clean and fresh and new. What do you think? What are your experiences? Thanks. ↓
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Name: Nikki | Date: Jun 15th, 2008 11:55 PM
I had a m/c at 7 weeks and was wondering the same thing. The doc said to wait at least one cycle, but wasn't really able to give a good reason. I've been trying to get some feedback on here, but no body seems to want to reply to my posts. I only bled for a few days (and not really that heavy) and my HcG level was 2 (at two weeks post m/c). I have a pretty regular cycle, and we bd several times around ovulation, so I'm a little scared that we may have conceived again (it's only been two weeks since my m/c) since the jury is still out on whether or not it's completely safe. I appreciate you sharing what you heard from your doctors. It makes me feel a little better. hope you get more responses than I did!!! ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 16th, 2008 1:35 AM
Hey Nikki. Since I spoke to 2 different drs from 2 different places and they said the same thing, I tend to agree with them. I just wanted to see if others had fallen straight away and had a healthy preg. The only thing they say about doing it super soon is that without a cycle it's hard to track the dates but an ultra sound can do that! Besides you should know roughly when you conceived because it would be in about a 4 week period.
I'm not going on the pill and I hate condoms and my husband and I have been trying for 12months (9 before we got pregnant then lost it) so if it happens, it happens I say. I'm not going to try and stop it.
When did you have your miscarriage? Was it your first?
Do you have other kids? ↑
Name: nikki | Date: Jun 16th, 2008 4:46 AM
Thanx for answering Cassie. You've really eased my mind. I found out I was pregnant on May 24 and started bleeding the following sunday (June 01). So It was just two weeks ago. And I only spotted for a couple days then the doc removed the tissue (but didn't do a d&c), and Ihad heavy bleeding for one day, then it was over with. It may just be my mind trying to justify trying so soon, but I compare what I went through with what most women go through during a m/c and think it must not have been very stressful on my body. Therefor, we can try right away, right? lol. Idk...When we found out we were pregnant, my husband was super excited, but I wasn't. I didn't think I ever wanted to have kids. But that one week of being pregnant completely changed my mind, life, and marriage. I now want to be a mother and the bond between my husband I is stronger than I ever thought it could be. The idea of waiting now (when a month ago I never wanted kids, PERIOD) to be pregnant is killing me. Is this your first m/c? I know you said you had been trying for 12mo prior. I couldn't imagine going through that - trying for so long and wanting it so bad , only to lose it. But as just you said, you're more fertile after you have a m/c, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for you guys!!!!! When it does happen, it will be even more of a blessing (if that's possible). Are you still bleeding or anything from your d&c? June 12 wasn't that long ago.... ↑
Name: lilymummy | Date: Jun 16th, 2008 7:26 AM
Hi guys. I want to say firstly sorry for your losses. I too had a missed miscarriage, I went for my 9 wk scan last Wednesday only to be told there was no heartbeat. I had a d and c on Friday and am just bleeding a little. I am very sad, but this happened with my first pregnancy too and I found it harder to deal with than now because I now have my beautiful daughter. When I first had a d and c three years ago, the doctor told me definitely to wait at least one cycle, but she said that was because I was beside myself with grief and needed to heal emotionally. Last week I also grilled the doctors who did my procedure for information and they both said there was absolutely no reason why you couldn't start immediately, they said they often say wait one cycle but that was more just to get an idea to correctly date the next pregnancy, and as you have said that is done (more accurately) with ultrasound. So I am here to tell you that there is no problem with conceiving immediately after a d and c and I also wanted to share the news that my mum had the exact thing happen to her 30 years ago - she conceived my brother about 2 weeks after a d and c and had a normal pregnancy, delivery etc. (My brother is a pain in the butt but that's beside the point!) So go for it if you are ready for it! I feel like I want to try again as my husband is in his forties and feels he is getting too old, but I don't know how brave I feel to try again and risk this happening again. It hurts my heart so much. I'm also sorry no one responded, Cassie, but I guess it needs the right person to read the right thread at the right time. ↑
Name: lilymummy | Date: Jun 16th, 2008 7:30 AM
I had my first d and c in May 2005, was really upset and emotional about it, and tried really hard to conceive again. My last period was mid July then I was pregnant with my daughter. I just forgot to mention that my doctor thought I may not have ovulated in the first cycle after the miscarriage, due to the grief and stress. So it will happen again soon for you ladies, and I also hope it will happen for me soon too. ↑
Name: stefkay | Date: Jun 16th, 2008 9:04 AM
I was told the same things...wait 3 cycles, wait one cycle, and so on. Most will say at least one cycle so that you can date the new pregnancy. I personally felt safer waiting at least that one cycle because a d&c literally scrapes out the lining of your uterus. Your body needs just a little time to heal up and rebuild that lining for a new egg. If the lining is not ready then the egg either won't implant or could have a faulty implant which would lead to another m/c and set a woman back further. I definitely think there is some truth to being more fertile after a loss though! I see it all the time on this board....it is like that for some time though, not just immediately following. I know personally though that right after a m/c the only thing I wanted in this world was to be pregnant again and NOW :) ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 17th, 2008 1:55 AM
Hey Nikki. Yeah this is my first M/C. We only tried for 12 months because we were working out how long my cycle is (36 days) then doing the deed from day 19 to 24. Then we bought some of those urine, ovulation sticks, that measure the LH surge and we used them for 2 months. Turns out I ovulate day 27-28. Not 14 days before my period but 8-9 days! So we were having sex for no reason!!! hehehe. Seriously, once we found that out, we fell on the 2nd cycle. I've never had a m/c before. Like you guys though, my husband and I have this super tight bond now. It devastated us completely cos we hit week 12 and started telling people. I own a hair salon so started telling clients. It's hard now cos I can't remember who knows and I'm scared they are going to say something. I wasn't bleeding much, in fact I wasn't even wearing a pad on sat and sun, but today Tues am having a little clotty bleeding. The cramping has been on and off. Sometimes mild, sometimes severe contractions. i normally suffer with period pain pretty bad and I was saying today to my husband that normally, b4 a period you cramp for a day or 2 then you bleed then you're fine. But this is different because i'm cramping because i'm contracting so it's different. I just did a pregnancy test and it still says i'm pregnant so my hcg must be above 25. When will you start trying again? make sure you keep a sex diary from the beginning so you know when you did it. I store it in my phone calender. Nice! Maybe we can fall together. Best of luck. And HAVE FUN WITH IT!!! ↑
Name: stefkay | Date: Jun 17th, 2008 7:23 AM
mustangcassie, in reading your last post I thought I'd mention something that might be a concern that you could raise to your doctor. I've been on this forum for some time and did tons of research on my own through several losses. Short luteal phase is one of the top contributors of miscarriage although very few women actually have this disorder. Many are misdiagnosed and given progesterone supplementation anyways (which can never hurt!) but basically your luteal phase really needs to be 12-14 days optimally for proper implantation to occur. 10-11 days can be ok but is gettin iffy....anything less is just not giving enough time for proper implantation. I'd suggest sticking to the ovulation test kits but maybe also charting your temp--that is the best way to know if you ovulated (temp shift) other than having an ultrasound to check your ovaries. Just some thoughts...you can probably find some info by googling "short luteal phase" or "luteal phase defect", but you want to stick to reputable sites as there is lots of bunk info on the web. Taking a daily B6 vitamin can help lengthen it a bit, but it takes a few months to see results. Progesterone supplementation after ovulation is probably the best bet. Some women also will do clomid or femara in the first part of cycle which can boost progesterone in second half and ALSO still supplement progesterone in second half. Anyways, sorry to ramble! Just wanted to share..... ↑
Name: creating101 | Date: Jun 17th, 2008 3:16 PM
I am 36 and was almost 12 weeks along. I just had my m/c early on Fathers Day (of all days) I was told to wait three months at least before trying again. Or so the emergency room told me that. I am going in to see my doctor tomorrow am. If he says anything different I will be sure to drop a line and let you know.
I am still passing large clots and my bleeding varies depending how much I am on my feet. I really dont know how long this will last but I am going to ask the Dr. ↑
Name: beckybear | Date: Jun 17th, 2008 4:18 PM
I just had a missed M/C at 11 weeks (baby was 10.5 weeks in size). Had a D&C the next day. That was 3 weeks ago. I've bled lightly off and on since then. But the past week or so has really been sparse. My doc said the light bleeding was normal and that I should get my AF back no later than 6 weeks and if not to call them and they will give me a shot to get things rolling again. He said most doctors like to wait an additional full cycle after the first AF just to make sure your body's ready, but he said there's no scientific proof for this and that I could start trying as soon as I get my AF if I wanted to. I've also read many stories on here and other forums of women getting PG again with no AF and going on to have healthy pregnancies. This M/C was very difficult for me, because it was my first and I'm getting a late start at age 36, so I plan to wait until after my AF like my OB said because if I get PG straight away and M/C, I will blame myself and have to start over yet again. The wait seems eternal right now. ↑
Name: Nikki | Date: Jun 17th, 2008 8:53 PM
Lily- I'm so sorry about your losses. I couldn't imagine going through that. But thank you for the reassurance regarding starting right away. When the time is right for it to happen, regardless, ya know? But all these amazing women posting about it has really helped ease my mind about trying right away. From the sounds of it you had a m/c, then your daughter, and now a m/c, right? It's a heart breaking pattern, but perhaps if you guys try again, this time it will stick!!! baby dust to you!! make sure to keep us posted!!
Stef- what you said makes total sense, even if it isn't what we want to hear, lol. But every one is different, so while it may be important for some people, it might now be for others. It sucks that there is only one way to know for sure......are you pregnant now? or are you in the waiting period to try again?
cassie- thant is a long luteal phase, but at least you got it all figured out. I bet your husband was torn up about all having all that sex at the wrong time, lol. But now you guys know and you will have a fresh baby grower, so it sounds like you're all set to go. I only bled for a day or two with very little pain and cramping, but it was awful. We wanted to start to heal from the loss, but it was impossible to do with the constant reminder every time I moved. I hope it stops for you soon. I took a pregnancy test at my ob/gyn's office 4 days after the spotting started and it was already neg. on day 12 my hcg was down to 2. It's hard for me to come on here and read all of these posts and the pain people are going through. I only knew I was pregnant for a week and then the m/c wasn't even that eventful, and it totally knocked our worlds upside down. But we are back up and wanting to try again. Probably will after my next cycle. We just married a few months ago and are closing on our first house and blah blah blah. So it won't kill us to wait a bit. That would be awesome if we fall together! My best friend and I have always wanted to be preg together, but her wedding is in Jamaica in Dec so she doesn't want to be pregnant right now. But she also does, lol. She will be an amazing mother and wants to get started!!!
creating- definitely keep us posted on how it goes with you. A m/c on any day is awful, but the holidays would have to be the worst. I'm sorry for what's happening. Was this your first baby? and when are you going to try again? as soon as they tell you to?
becky- that does seem like an awfully long time, but I understand waiting for fear or ruining your chances. You don't wanna do anything to jeopardize it!! so you're gonna try again asap? I hope the bleeding stops soon for you. Good luck and keep us updated!! ↑
Name: creating101 | Date: Jun 17th, 2008 11:41 PM
This would have been my third. My husband and I just got married and since he has no children we really wanted to have a child together. My other children are 9 and 7 and I had no problems with them. I am 37 and I worry that my age has something to do with it, or maybe my job was too stressful. I am worried and eager to see the Dr in the AM. He could give me hope that I can try again soon, but I am worried there is something wrong with me and I will never be able to have any more children. I just hate waiting. ↑
Name: CaliTrish | Date: Jun 18th, 2008 2:55 AM
Mustangcassie - I'm devastated to hear of your loss. I was really hoping you'd beat the odds with your sporadic hcg levels. The docs weren't able to detect the organ formation in earlier ultrasounds? I'm glad you're doing okay emotionally. It's been 33 days since my 2nd d&c (vacuum aspiration). So, I'm just waiting for AF to show up. My doc recommended waiting 3 cycles, a minimum of 2. We only waited 2 cycles last time and ended up with another missed MC, so we're planning to wait the whole 3 cycles this time. My doc says that the aspiration clears out uterine lining so well (I didn't even bleed this last time) that it needs time to rebuild for good implantation. It's not harmful to TTC right away, you just have a slightly higher risk of another MC due to poor implantation. Baby dust to all and all the other ladies TTC. ↑
Name: creating101 | Date: Jun 18th, 2008 1:15 PM
I just got back from the Dr, and he said I was healing fine. Everything looked as it should 4 days after a m/c
He told me to come back after 5 weeks to make sure everything finished healing. He wants me to wait for 2 complete cycles before I try again. He also wants me to stay on the prenatal vitamins to help my healing process and prep for getting pregnant again. So it looks like a min of 3 months. But at least I know nothing is wrong with me and I could get pregnant again. ↑
Name: ajm1028 | Date: Jun 18th, 2008 2:10 PM
I too just had a m/c about 3 weeks ago. I was 8.5 weeks along. My dr said the same thing that CaliTrish's doctor said. And it makes sense if you think about it so we are going to try to wait 2 cycles and see what happened. I too had no bleeding after the d&c. ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 19th, 2008 3:02 AM
Stefkay- When I found out that I ovulate 9 days before period, I spoke to Dr about it because if you read a time line of falling pregnant, implantation happens from day 4 to 10 depending on how quick sperm and egg meet etc etc and she said that they will only give me progesterone if I have multiple M/C or takes more than 12 months to fall but we fell pregnant after trying 9 months and it stuck like glue. So I was concerned about that and questioned it but if we don't fall by Oct I will question more. We were just having all the sex on the wrong days!!! ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 19th, 2008 3:10 AM
I must say that now that I have had the DC (not the scraping but the vaccum) I feel positive about starting again. Having all that excitement from the beginning, the positive test. It was such an exciting time. I am so refreshed and ready to start again because this time it might be the real one. I can't wait and am feeling positive. Are the rest of you feeling as positive as me? Or are you still freaking out and feeling down? Is there something wrong with me? I keep thinking am I heartless to move on so quickly. But then I think, there is nothing positive to come from dwelling on it. I've cried my tears and talked and talked and talked about it. I'm STARTING FRESH!!! ↑
Name: Nikki | Date: Jun 19th, 2008 4:54 AM
Cassie, it's great to hear your excitement!!!! I think I'm both of those people you were describing. Still kinda freaking out, but super excited to get going again. Despite the nervousness and feeling of being blind-sided, it was amazing to think about actually creating a life!!! Don't get down on yourself about wanting to move on so quickly. I tend to agree with the notion that there is nothing to gain by dwelling on it. Remember the loss, but keep on trying and it will make that next bfp even more exciting than the first one!!!!! GOOD LUCK and baby dust to you. You better keep me posted on what goes on. How long are you gonna wait again??? I'm sure you've said it but my husband is pouting about "quality time". I think that means he wants to go fishing (while i read and try to be quiet), lol, and I can't go through and re-read all of these ↑
Name: stefkay | Date: Jun 19th, 2008 8:00 AM
Well, at least you asked her about it....so many doctors (especially regular OB's) are pretty clueless about it. I just hate to see anyone have to go through more than one loss. It's totally normal to get pregnant with luteal phase defect and for it to stick for a while, it's a complicated, screwy kind of thing to explain. Here is just some info I found on a reliable infertility website: ↑
Name: stefkay | Date: Jun 19th, 2008 8:00 AM
A Cycle with LPD
A normal cycle can be disrupted in several places. Three causes of LPD include poor follicle production, premature demise of the corpus luteum, and failure of the uterine lining to respond to normal levels of progesterone. These problems can also be found in conjunction with each other.
Poor follicle production has its origins in the first half of the cycle. The body may not produce a normal level of FSH, or the ovaries do not respond strongly to the FSH, leading to inadequate follicle development. Because the follicle ultimately becomes the corpus luteum, poor follicle formation leads to poor corpus luteum quality. In turn, a poor corpus luteum will produce inadequate progesterone, causing the uterine lining to be adequately prepared for the implantation of a fertilized embryo. Ultimately progesterone levels may drop early and menses will arrive sooner than expected.
Premature failure of the corpus luteum can occur even when the initial quality of the follicle/corpus luteum is adequate. For reasons not wholly understood, the corpus luteum sometimes does not persist as long as it should. Initial progesterone levels at five to seven days past ovulation may be low; even if they are adequate, the levels drop precipitously soon thereafter, again leading to early onset of menses.
Failure of the uterine lining to respond can occur even in the presence of adequate follicle development and a corpus luteum that persists for the appropriate length of time. In this condition, the uterine lining does not respond to normal levels of progesterone. Therefore, should an embryo arrive and try to implant, the lining will not be adequately prepared, and the implantation will likely fail.
Diagnosis and Treatment of Luteal Phase Deficiency
With the above information, it is easier to understand the many symptoms associated with LPD. Progesterone is responsible for the rise in basal body temperature during the luteal phase. Women who monitor their basal body temperature will thus often note that luteal phase temperatures do not stay reliably elevated for twelve days. Additionally, women who monitor the time of ovulation often notice that their next cycle begins sooner than the normal 12-14 days after ovulation.
Once a diagnosis of LPD is suspected, a serum progesterone test will often be performed at about seven days past ovulation. A level less than 14 ng/ml indicates that progesterone production in the luteal phase is inadequate.
Should progesterone levels prove to be low, the temptation is often to "treat the symptom" by giving the patient progesterone supplementation during the luteal phase. In the case of inadequate corpus luteum performance, progesterone support may indeed be the appropriate solution. However, inadequate follicle development may also be causing the low progesterone levels. Thus, it is important to measure midcycle follicle size (via ultrasound) and estradiol levels (via a blood test).
If follicle development is normal, then progesterone supplementation during the luteal phase is normally the correct treatment. If follicle development is inadequate, an ovulatory stimulant such as Clomid or an injectable drug may be in order; these drugs help the follicle to mature more appropriately, which has the double benefit of producing a higher quality egg and a better-functioning corpus luteum.
Women whose linings fail to respond to normal progesterone levels often have normal follicle development and adequate progesterone levels at 7 days past ovulation. An ultrasound image of the lining at seven dpo, however, will show a lining that has failed to convert from the triple layer lining typical of the time of ovulation. In this case, women are often given additional progesterone supplementation in the luteal phase in the hope that a higher level will be the push that the lining needs to convert appropriately. Some doctors use injections of human chorionic gonadotropin to further stimulate the corpus luteum. However, these injections can cause false positive pregnancy results. ↑
Name: stefkay | Date: Jun 19th, 2008 8:01 AM
and here was a bit more from another site................A luteal phase is the time from ovulation to menstruation. This is the time that if pregnant, the fertilized egg would travel from the fallopian tube and into the uterus to implant. The luteal phase normally should be over 10 days, usually anywhere from 10 to 17 days long. Anything under 10 days is considered a luteal phase defect. If pregnancy should occur and you have a luteal phase defect, you will have an early miscarriage. Some doctors believe that if the luteal phase falls under 12 days, then it is a problem.
A luteal phase defect is a luteal phase below 10 days. This cannot sustain a pregnancy. This is because the uterine lining begins to break down, bringing on the menstrual bleeding and causing an early miscarriage. The number one reason for a luteal phase defect is low progesterone. A doctor can do a progesterone test 7 days past ovulation to determine exactly how deficient a woman with a luteal phase defect is. From that point there are several ways of correcting it..
A luteal phase defect can be easily corrected. You will find out you have a luteal phase defect through fertility charting. If you find this out, seek the advice of your physician first before starting any treatments to correct it. A lot of times the luteal phase defect can be corrected through over-the-counter remedies and/or with prescription drugs.
Probably the number one way a doctor will recommend to correct a luteal phase defect is through prescription drugs such as Clomid or progesterone suppositories. The suppositories are taken through the vagina after ovulation has occurred and until either day 14 post ovulation or at some point weeks later during a pregnancy, if pregnancy occurred. However, there are over-the-counter methods that help to lengthen the luteal phase. ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 20th, 2008 12:33 AM
Nikki.
We will start again next week, not officially trying but not taking precautions. That way my 2 week time will pass where I can get infections etc. I'll be on here for sure. Trish, how are you going? It's good to see you here. Where do you guys live anyway, just so I know how far this info is travelling... I'm in Sydney, Australia. ↑
Name: Nikki | Date: Jun 20th, 2008 4:19 PM
yay for starting again!!! lol. We are doing the same thing right now. Not "trying", but not taking precautions either. Although, as my friend pointed it, it's hard not to try now. I've never been so aware of everything associated with my period in my life!!!! lol. My husband and I were talking about due dates and such, and we think it might be best if we hold off for just a few months. We live in Kansas City, MO and he is an airplane mechanic. During the winter the company that he works for also de-ices the airplanes. That's a lot of time away from home (last winter there was a two week period where he slept on a cot at work for 4 hours a night- I only saw him once!). We figure it's going to be hard enough with both of us available all the time, but during the winter months it would pretty much just be me. Anyway....if it happens right now, then it does and we will be grateful, But if it holds off a few more months, then that's awesome too. You guys don't have to worry about ice and crap like that there, do you? lucky. do you have any bad weather to watch out for? ↑
Name: jenny barrowman | Date: Jun 20th, 2008 5:15 PM
Hi i was 9 weeks and like you bleed through that time i had to wait a week for them to tell me it had ended. I opted to say awake and have an evacuation i got married and the next day miscarried naturally, how it was miss noone know but i was told to wait until i had had a period and like you i knew from the start. I know someone how miscarried and fell pregnant before her first period and the pregnancy is different better. So i think you should go with your gut feeling and when you feel ready thats when you try again only you know your body. So good luck and keep smiling jenny ↑
Name: jenny barrowman | Date: Jun 20th, 2008 5:19 PM
Hi nikki thats not good that noone has got back to you . I was told that you have to wait at least 1 cycle because of dates it is easier to calculate your next pregnancy from it. I know of people who have fallen before that and are now having successful pregnancies i hope that helps ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 20th, 2008 11:55 PM
Its winter here in Sydney at the moment and is a frosty 20 degrees celcius, hehehe. Blue skies. Enjoy that snow Nikki! ↑
Name: lilymummy | Date: Jun 23rd, 2008 12:31 AM
Hey guys I am going to consult a specialist in pregnancy and miscarriage on Wednesday, I will be sure to post what he tells me re trying again. I'm in country Victoria, about an hour north of Melb, and this grey muddy weather is getting me down. But I am feeling more hopeful about trying again than I was last week. I have thought about it and it seems I have to pay a high price for my baby/babies through miscarriage, but at least I am lucky enough to be able to conceive easily enough if the past is anythign to go by, and the price is certainly worth it when I look at my daughter. It will happen for us all when our personal time is right. I was almost insane with obsessing about pregnancy after my first miscarriage, but then 2 months later I concieved my daughter and she is 150% worth the wait. ↑
Name: lilymummy | Date: Jun 25th, 2008 6:45 AM
I saw the specialist today who said wait til you have a period, then you can try again and we will just monitor you more closely when you do get pregnant. He kept saying two miscarriages in a row is just unlucky, not indicative of a problem. At my insistence, he took some simple blood tests to check a couple of levels to see if I have clotting issues etc that could be afftecting my pregnancies adversely. I'll get the results of those in 2 weeks. All in all, I don't feel hugely reassured, because he seemed to think that this was not a problem, which made my heart sink in case I have to go through this again before anyone would take it seriously. But I think perhaps I am overreacting, my DH certainly thinks so! anyway, the specialist just said he thinks it is best to wait til you have one period jsut to make sure everything is working and all clots have passed in case any tiny bit was left after the d and c, and then you are good to go, so I will follow that advice. ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 26th, 2008 12:03 AM
Lilymummy, Do you have any children? Have you had a few miscarriages? This was my first so I love to hear stories of people who have had a m/c and then also had children.... Thanks. cass. ↑
Name: mustangcassie | Date: Jun 26th, 2008 12:05 AM
Trish, How are you? What's going on? Are you well? It's nearly 5 weeks for you isn't it? How are you feeling? ↑
