Joker I felt the exact same way about dying on the operating table. I would have rather died than to lost my uterus. Funny isn't. I was prepared for anything. ↑
Hello everyone thanks again for the response. Joker you nailed it right on the head everything you mentioned is exactly what I am feeling. Sometimes it doesn't feel real. Thinking back on how many times I saw a negative pregnancy test and broke down in tears just makes me laugh (husband and I tried from Feb. 2006 to Aug... got pregnant at the end of Aug. 2007). If I only knew that there was something far worse going to happen in my future... the loss of my child. I feel like eveyone around me is moving on with life and I am stuck having to make this decision. I want to move on as well but I am really scared. Joker and Angel I don't want to die but the worst possible thing that can happen is I loose my uterus (emergency hysterectomy or i spike a fever and loose it after the surgery.. if that can happen) My husband tells to not to worry and to have faith that all will be ok.. but I can't. Somedays I am all for the surgery and know that it's the best choice for me but then the fear kicks in full force and I get scared. I spoke with a Dr. on the phone on Friday (my pastors dr... he referred her to the man who performed her myomectomy.. they work together). I asked him some questions about my options and he said the Dr. I am going to meet with on Thursday is a great Dr. he's performed plenty of myomectomies and he has over 19 years of experience with fibroids and surgery. That made me feel so much better. Joker I understand what you mean when you talk about leg surgery. It's not the same but if something needs correction it's best to get it done than suffer. Another positive of the surgery is they can look and remove all of the fibroids even the ones that are not seen on the ultrasound. Also, unless the fibroid grows back you won't have to worry about that crippling fibroid pain we all have experienced at one time in our pregnancy. I know I have and I wouldn't wish that pain on my worst enemy. Thank you all for reading.. listening. Since the loss of Makayla (my daughter) I on;y have a handfull of people I can talk to about this without them interrupting or changing the subject to speak about themselves. God Bless. Keep trying and never give up on your dream of having a baby. ↑
KM you are going to be ok girl. You are. And you are going to be such a blessing to others because of all of the struggles you have been through. AND most importantly you are going to be a mom!! You are. I can imagine that Makayla and my Joseph are playing in Heaven right now together and when we get there we will get to hold them. I do not know you but I feel your pain because it is my pain too. Hugs!!!!! You are going to be amazed at what the Lord is going to do for you. Joker thanks for this thread. We owe you girl!! ↑
Angel you are right. We will be mothers all of us and we will get to hold our children when we get to heaven. God is testing our faith. WE have to trust in him through the good and the bad. It's hard I know for me because it took so long to get pregnant and to have made it that far just to loose her it's terrible. Angel thank you for the response I know you had to face these same decisions and I believe you chose wisely. As did the rest of you ladies. Joker we do owe you for starting this thread. After I left the hospital I was so confused. I was looking to see if this happened to anyone else. We are told that fibroids may not effect pregnancy so when this happens you feel all alone... and of course more than likely none of your friends or family members have experienced a loss due to fibroids (I know mine haven't). Just to be able to hear (read) other womens stories of strength some going on to have sucessful pregnancies, some going for the surgery, some ttc and those who are undecided. Just a place where we can all talk openly and freely about the our experiences without being ignored or judged has made all the difference in my life. I wish the best for all of you ladies. You have truly changed my life forever. ↑
Joker you are so right I felt the same way. I told my self there was no way i was going to live knowing I didn't have a uterus. Isn't that what makes you a woman .I know not everybody agrees with that but thats how I felt then and i so wanted to still be able to have a baby I would hav given up everything. With me it was even worse cause my fibroid was so big and when it was time to sign the release papers for the surgery right there in black and white was myo possible histerotomy I frecked out told my dr I wasn't signing that paper with that on it and she was like its just in case. No there was no just in case with my uterus told her if she opened me up and find out she cant do it without taking my uterus out to just patch me back up and leave me alone i was willing to sign that of cause all that now is history I had a wonderful Md I thank God for her every day... KM I actually tried for the 2nd time with the fibroids they were not that big after my 1st m/c and this was after seeing 3 doctors who all told me to go aheard only 1 in so many pple end up having a m/c which I did become the 1 of cause and after reading everybody's story here they need to change thier numbers i think. If I had happened upon this thread I think i would have done things different. The final decision is your but I was there it is not something i would wish on my enermy even. Sorry for going on and on. I just get carried aways sometimes cause i know you girls understand exactly what I am saying or trying to say. Thank you to every single one of you. Thank you ↑
Joker, we did Clomid to stimulate egg production and we did sonograms to see if it was working (on day 10 to see how many follicles). There were always 3-4. When we started IUIs, my husband's count was lowER than most. He started taking "Fertility Blend for Men" from GNC and it quadrupled his count the next round. The IUI (insimination/turkey baster) will help with low sperm count and will still work if you are on Clomid. I started on 25mg of clomid and worked up to 150mg before we saw a difference.
I am officially off of blood thinners!!! YEAH!!!! So, now we just do the HSG and then try right afterwards. HOWEVER, I was supposed to start last Thursday and she is NO WHERE to be seen!! I am ALWAYS on time...day 28 like clockwork...and I have never wanted her to show up SO much, and of course she is late. What the heck?!?!?!? I will keep you posted on when I have the HSG. Never thought I would say this...but "come on aunt flow"... ↑
KKMS congrats on getting off of the blood thinners!!! Hopefully AF will show up soon so you can get the show rolling. I did IUI's to get my BFP's - one was Feb 2007 and the other was Aug 2007. My dh and I both checked out ok and we have been classified as unexplained infertility. Are you going to do the IUI's again with clomid? ↑
We are going to start with just clomid to be sure I am ovulating. I had HUNDREDS of pea sized fibroids in my uterus. My Dr said that there was NO WAY anything could implant and he was SURE I was getting pregnant each month, they just didnt stick. So, I am hopeful that the myo fixed the problems! Now that we are both "working" properly it should work. Just pray hard!! ↑
KKMS I will be praying for you. Just this morning I was praying for all of us and asking God to bless us and to reveal Himself to us in our "valley". Come on AF for KKMS so she can start the clomid. ↑
hi everyone! i have been following this thread and part 1 of it for a while now and I am always encouraged by everone's determination. I have never been pregnant and never wanted any kids till this young gynae told me bluntly i needed to get my fibroids removed or i will never get pregnant. I changed doctors and now suffer frm infertility complex, belive me its a lot harder here as I am asian. At 32, on apr06 i had my myomectomy and had 17 fibroids removed, largest one being 8 cm and had 2 packs of blood transfusion due to blood loss. The number of fibroids were shocking to know about becoz during vaginal scans, they saw abt 4 to 5. Post surgery, the report on my tubes were "Both tubes looked normal". told to ttc after 6mths. I had my vaginal scan done 6mths post-op and the fibroids ahve started growing back but they were only abt 2mm and "wont affect fertility". After a year of trying, was transfered to the fertility clinic and took my HSG test and was told both mytubes were blocked!! one by a fibroid and the other just shut tight. They pumped so much saline in me to try to clear the tubes, it was painful becoz i didnt see the need to take painkillers. After being told my tubes were blocked, i sobbed there in the examination room. The nurse asked me if it was becoz of the pain of the procedure, I told her no. It was becoz both my tubes were blocked. I was angry and frustrated. Why were my tubes not checked or cleared during my myo? apparently, during myo, the surgeon only sights them, they dont perform HSG during myo. THEY SHOULD! anyway, the rest of my story is that hubby had his sperm test later and he has slight spermatozoa. Any idea how to improve his sperm samples? I may want to buy those GNC pills for him as recommended by KKMS. during HSG, they were able to see my fibroids clearer (i think) and grew to become 3cm and there are abt 3 of them. the doc told me that she sees no point in clearing my tubes and she scheduled me for hysterscopy to get rid of a polyp and then start IVF program. I have been having too much bad news for 2yrs. I just want to have my own kids so bad it is affecting my life. but, thanks for listening. Everyone around me keeps getting pregnant and once my relatives knew I had fertility problem, they dont nag me to start a family anymore..they just dont talk abt it to me. I hate Chinese new year gatherings. ↑
ZIPPYBUNNY...my Dr. flushed my tubes during surgery, but still required an HSG after a few months. The scar tissue from the surgery can build up and block the tubes that were JUST opened during surgery. My Dr said that if my tubes are blocked for my HSG, then we would go straight to InVitro. ANGELKITTY, that was the best prayer EVER!!! Nothing like being specific with exactly what we want!! All the prayers are appreciated! Still nothing, and still waiting! ↑
Oh, and about improving sperm sample...those pills worked GREAT (there is also a "fertility blend for women" in case anyone doesnt want to do regular fertility pills). My husband's count was up and down, but those pills def. made the count better. Also be sure to HAVE sex w/in 7 days of the count but NOT for 3 days before. It's a tricky time schedule and you might have to play with it for a few months. Also, have him drink LOTS of water the day before and the day of the "drop." If he is sick it may be low. Even when mine's were lower or slower the Dr. always said it is a day to day thing with men, so they were never worried. Once they saw what he was capable of, they didnt worry if there were less or something else wrong. Men produce more everyday...somedays may just be slower!! We did 6 IUIs, so we had 6 times to study his sperm patterns. Trial and error...sucks, but works.
If anyone in the the DFW, TX area, I have a GREAT Dr. Good luck! ↑
Hi all!! Thanks Joker for this new forum! I am sorry to hear how hard and long it has been for some of us this trying to get pregnant thing. And I felt the same as you do, until today when the new arrived that I AM PREGNANT. Yes girls, pregnancy after myomectomy exists!! it´s hard but it exists, I was really thinking that I wouldn´t make it, but three weeks ago a book called The Secret caught my attention. I ready it and it encouraged me to think positive, to think that I was going to make it. To visualize it, etc, etc. I know it sounds awkward but when I was in "that moment" I kept imagining a sperm fertilizing an egg. Don´t laugh, I thought I was becoming crazy also but somehow it worked! I had a delay of one week, then I tried the evatest and it showed two very slight stripes. I was not sure and my husband kept saying that I was imaging them, so today I went to the doctor, had a blood test and guess what? the doctor called me telling I was pregnant to go to see him on Friday. I am so emotioned that I couldn´t even breath. It´s worth trying girls! I had been what most of you had been through and got discouraged, encouraged, happy, sad, and in almost all states, but it is possible, so please don´t loose your hope, the mind makes miracles. Hope I am giving hope to all of you with this post. ↑
Thank you Hopeful! I have to wait until Friday to see if everything is OK, but this is a start!. Hope they make me an ultrasound, not sure yet. Let´s see what the doctor tells me to do. And baby dust to you all! ↑
Damajuana...It's Sasha...I'm sitting here crying tears of joy for you and your husband and your BIG FAT PREGNANCY results!!!!!!! I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo- happy for you girl!!!!!! God is awesome!!!!! I will be praying that your ultrasound exam goes exceedingly well!!!!! Please if you can...take us (and those who are new to the thread) on a brief reintroduction of your journey...with the fibroids and pregnancy. In other words, please share your story so that we can continue hoping!!! This will be our third attempt in a week and I will also have positive thoughts and hopes like you going forward. Just this morning when cleaning the kitchen I was thinking that I need to focus more on positive thoughts about getting pregnant. I can't wait to have this same news as you hopefully soon!!! It will be fun hearing your pregnancy journey in the next 9 months! :) Sasha~ ↑
Damajuana-CCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNN-NNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAT-TTTTTTTTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAA-AATTTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN-NNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!- to you and your hubby. I am as well as Sasha So so happy for you !!!!!! It is excellent feeling to hear that things are happening even after surgery. Gives me so much hope. I believe that us girls on this forum are so excited about each new pregnancy as it would be our own. I am so so happy for you and wish you HEALTHY, happy, unstresful, relaxing, enjoying 9 month of this pregnancy. Can't wait to find out what are you having :-). Keep the GOD WORK !!!!! I am very proud of you. And a lots lots of GOOD LUCK. Lets GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ↑
Hi all, Thank you a lot Sashaaaaa I really can´t believe it!. Here goes my story. I knew I had known I have fibroids for five years. They were very small, 5 mm, when they were detected so the doctor told me not to do anyhing and wait until I wanted to get pregnant. Five years later, we decided that we were going to try, so I went to another doctor (as I changed my med assistance during that period and also did not felt comfortable with the first one), after researching and finding one which I considered suitable for this "big job", and visited him. He studied me and told me that my fibroids had grown, and that if I don´t have them removed, I will probably not get pregnant and if I made it it was going to be an ectopic pregnancy. One of the fibroids was specially bothering as it measured 5 cms and was obstructing the left "entrance" wall, according to the doctor it acted as a DIU; an another one was very near to the left tube, in fact it was 3 mm to obstruct it. My periods hurt, but not that much. I havent even dropped the pill once, so I didn´t know what to do if I should first or follow doctor´s advice. I also got scared to death as I had never been through a surgery. But then we talked with my husband and also with my sister who is a doctor and helped me/pushed me making the decision of having them removed asap. In August 11 I had the myectomy with a speedy recovery. In two weeks I was back to work! I still had small stings but completely bereable They removed six fibroids, the biggest one measured 5 or six cms of diameter, they were all in the walls and outside of my uterus. My gyno told me that the tubes were totally unobstructed after the surgery, but that is what most doctors tell you.... On December the doctor told me that I should leave the pill and start trying to get pregnant. We did it! but without really counting the days when I was ovulating and that stuff, because we tried to avoid getting stressed and having too many expectations (we tried it doesn´t mean that we did it). Then in January I decided to start counting the days without letting him know, but we discussed in the middle, so we didn´t do it during the day I was ovulating, another lost month. In February I started reading the book (important data) and everything seemed to be Ok. Om Monday I did an Evatest (the third since I strated trying) and two slight stripes appeared. I couldn´t believe but mu husband told me I was imaging it so I decided to wait til next day to go to my gyno. I went there and they ordered a blood test. I had eaten lunch just before but they told me it didn´t matter. The nurse who was going to do the blood extraction asked me? Do you want to be pregnant? And I answered more than anything, it´s strange cause it was the first time I hear myself saying it without even thinking about it, just answered. She said that´s great to hear. Then she told that I will have the results by 7.00 pm and wished me luck. At 8.00 pm the doctor called gave me the new and asked me go to see him on Friday . We decided not to tell our families until we are sure everything is ok, hope this happens quickly as I want to tell them. So you are knowing this before my family!. Thanks all for all your support during this period, it´s really important to read your posts and know that someone is reading me and also going trough all of this. But let´s think positive, and fight, it´s worth the effort. Baby dust to all of you and have a great evening. ↑
FABULOUS story Damajuana! So, it sounds like it took you about two months right? That's great!! What is the book you were reading? Would you recommend it? I have tons of books - pregnancy, fibroids, fertility, miscarriage, etc. If there's a book you think we could benefit from, please say the name. I totally hear you when you say you want to tell your families when you are pretty sure everything is okay. I feel the same way-but I know I won't be able to keep my mouth shut from my mom, sisters and brother. :) I won't tell my friends though. Okay- well, let's hope I have somehting to tell them! Thanks Damajuana!!!! Sasha~ ↑
Hi damajuana, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! :-) You definitely have given me hope. This has been a depressing week for me with two of my closest friends baby showers coming up this weekend and another one has just told me she is pregnant. Can I put the world on pause until I get pregnant!!!!!! :-) I am so happy for them and so sad for me at the same time. However, reading your awesome news has given me more energy to keep hoping and trusting that God will work it out. KM I will be praying for you in your decision for myo. For me losing my little angel, Gavin at 20 weeks was pain I hope to never have to experience again. That is why I did my myo because I wanted to give my next angel a fair chance of survival. I pray for all those who has to make that decision and for those like me who are waiting to ttc and for those who are already trying. God has a plan for all of us and his timing will happen for each of us. Until then, let us claim good health, success in TTC and safe and wonderful pregnancies....baby dust, love and faith to all!!:-) ↑
Many thanks for the congratulations Sasha, katarinak and Josie7. Sasha the book is called the Secret, it was written by Rhonda Byrne and it´s a book about how positive thoughts attract positive things and abundance to life. And it really helped me changing the way I saw things. It´s won´t change anyone´s life but believe me it helps a lot to think positive and relief stress. ↑
I know I'm late, but CONGRATULATIONS daumajuana!!!!! I am SOOOO HAPPY for you!!! Wow, see what happens when I don't come to this thread for a few days??? I remember your story vividly, and I recall reading about your myo experience because it was a couple of months before my myo. Good things can happen ladies!! I will be praying that you have a great doctor's appointment on Friday!!! And please, keep us posted. ↑
Hello Ladies... I hope everyone is doing well. Damajuana congrats on your pregnancy. I wish you nothing but the best. I read the news on Feb 26 and I ran upstairs and told my husband. I was so happy you would have thought I was pregnant. Keep positive thoughts and pray... that's the on;y advice I can give you. For all you ladies out their ttc claim your child. This may sound silly.. buth when I pray I pray for the daughter I lost but I also pray for the child God is going to give me. I claim it. If God is on your side who can be against you. Josie thank you for your prayers they are truly appreciated. I have a doctors appt. tomorrow. I have many questions I am going to ask. Please pray for me that I make the right decision. I have decided to have the surgery (I don't know which one... will have a better understanding once I meet a few times with the doctor). Most of us have lost our child and to put another child through something like that is not what I am going to do. Just the thought of my child fighting for blood supply and nutrients is just too much for me to bear. Had any of you considered UFE... I know they say not to attempt if you want to get pregnant but it is less invasive then surgery. Again good luck to everyone on ttc. God Bless. ↑
KMWiliams-I was really considering UAE, becuase I am originally from Europe and I was reading they have prety good results over there with it even on womens who attempt pregnancy after. So I keept asking my doctor about that as my option, but he said 100% no, but that is just my case. I even found a doctor who was willing to do my surgery laparoscopicly, but my group of OBGys warned me not to do it so way, because the risk of uterus rapture during next pregnancy and I don't know why, but I trusted them, so finally I decided to go with my original group of Obgys and with traditional abdominal myomectomy and after a surgery I was so happy I did so, because I had only 2 fibroids taken out, but the big one was size of grapfruit I was told and that would be really hard to repair laparoscopicly. And just put your mind little bit on easy, after my pregnancy my obgyn dr. in Europe were sugesting me to go ahead and try for another pregnancy, but Dr. over here in USA seggested surgery and I was SO TEMPTED TO TRY ANOTHER PREGNANCY , VERY TEMTED, I kept going back and front between decision, but my DH was 100% again pregnancy, before we would try to take care of the fibroids. He told me that he stronly believe that it is "Very selfish from me to attemp another pregnancy (without surgery) and let my baby fight over there with fibroid for space, blood, nutritiens and fibroids pushing on his/her head" And when he told me that I realized that he is 100% right, that I would do anything to give my baby healthy and stressfree 9 months in my belly, just like he/she desrves it. And I have to say, that now after surgery I AM SO HAPPY I DID THE SURGERY, SO HAPPY. I feel that my body is ready to attemp another HEALTHY pregnancy. If I would have to do a decision again I would definetelly go for surgery, if nothing else, but the feeling that I got out those monsters whom killed my baby. If nothing else, That is the best feeling I had in a long time. And even the surgery by itself is not as bad as it sound at all. I wasback to my old self in 2 weeks. And with choosing the approach and right Dr. I believe you should research as much info as much you can find and than go by your inner feelings.This way no metter what you and your DH will know that you tryed to do all you posibbly could to give your next baby healthy 9 months. ↑
Congratulation damajuana!!! I am so happy for you. Here is to a healthy and happy 9 months!!!! I am going to pray God blesses you with the best pregnancy ever!!!! KM I am sorry you are still struggling with how you want to proceed. I just thought the with the statistics and all of the results I found and with my dr.'s advice the myo was best for me. I am at exactly three weeks past my myo and I feel great!!! I still have the muffin top thing going on but from what I have read it may be a while before that passes. I say all of that to say this - the myo was the right choice for me but you have to do what feels right for you. Do all of your research, get second opinions, and find the right doctor for you. That is the most important thing - trusting your doctor. Just keep us posted on what is going on with you and know you are being prayed for. ↑
Hi girls! Thanks Kat 123, katarinak MWilliams and Angelkitty. I can´t believe it, but yesterday´s afternoon I went to the bathroom and noted some small bleeding, run to the doctor and I have a very slight bruise in the bag or sac (not sure how it´s called in English). Girls every rose has it´s thorn. Result: The doctor sent me home and I should stay here for some time, today I have the appointment with my gyno, and probably will stay at least ten days at home. Don´t know why this happens yet, can be coagulation problem, or don´t know what else but it´s not due to a fibroid, as I had an ultrasound yesterday and there was no sign of fibroids in the uterus. I am still reading the secret and thinking positive, this is nothing but a message to slow down, as I had been too busy in the last days. I am totally focused on recovering. Keep you posted on progress. Bye ↑
KKMS that stinking AF she just does not get it does she? LOL!!! Damajuana please keep us posted on what is going on with you. I am so excited that there are no signs of fibroids for you!!!! That is awesome!! KM how are you? Joker - how is it going? ↑
Hello Ladies I hope everyone is having a great day so far. I went to the doctors yesterday and was told I will need an Ab myo done. I have another appt on Wed. I feel I am making the right decision to get the myomectomy done. I am extremely nervous but confident with my choice. Who has gotten the ab myo? How long were you told to wait before ttc? I was told 3 months. Damajuana enjoy your pregnancy I know you are worried about the bllod but keep a positive upbeat attitude and pray. Pray like you never prayed before and God will work things out for you. Joker where are you? I hope all is well. I will keep everyone posted. God Bless. ↑
