TO "THINK " AND "BLESSED" first of all i think it is clear that "we" have ALL sinned, but what u are forgetting is that the name JESUS/GOD that u are throwing out died for our sins so no one has to forgive us but him...and no one said that while dating the married men we never found out..what was said is that there is a problem now and "we"( the other women) are crying out for help and support from those who are going or have gone through similar situations.. it is easier said then done to advise "us" to leave the man alone b/c it sometimes is just not that easy...when emotions and emotional attachment become involved along with love, it becomes real life issues..b/c everyone is/has/been with someone they want and can't be with ..vice versa...and with the comment he hasn't brought u home to meet ma-ma, well honey u don't know anything b/c there are those of us who know ma-ma, daddy and the whole family, I speak from experience..my son knows them and they know me very well, they understand how things happen, not condoning it , but not judging me or him(the married man who is also apart of their family)...I advise u to find another forum to post ur judgemental thoughts on b/c u are wasting time and space for those of us who really have something to say... ↑
in response to the one who questioned my baby deserving to know it's father and family...sure my child deserves it. But only the father can decide if he wants that or not. What I am doing is what I feel is right, I am having this baby with or without his support. Wrong or not, this is my choice. I have told him he can know this child, and I will never deny him contact with this child. But right now he is worried about his ass, his family, I am of minimal concern. So just as I must be strong for this baby, I am being strong for myself too. This is not a time where we can sit and feel sorry for ourselves, we must be strong and the men can only do what they want at this point. We choose to have this child, and he gets to go home to his family and not be the one who deals with the baby. But complaining about this will do us no good, if we choose to carry this child then we are wise and strong enough to know we can do this!! ↑
YOU GOT IT I'M BACK............. GUESS WHAT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT READ THE TRUTH!
HERE IT IS... I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS OF "SOMEWHAT" ENCOURAGEMENT TO THE SISTER IN NEED OF HELP... BUT LETS FACE IT! IF YA CAN'T STAND THE HEAT GET OUT - THE KICTHEN! PEOPLE LUST AND SIN IT UP IN THE BED ROOM AND WHEN IT'S TIME TO REAP WHAT THEY SOW- PEOPLE WANT SIMPATHY- PLEASE-----THE PROBLEM WITH THE WORLD TODAY IS THAT MOST PEOPLE SHY AWAY FROM THE TRUTH- WE ARE LIVING IN A "EVERYTHING GOES SOCIETY" THEN WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE GIVING IT TO THEM RAW AND REAL- THEN PEOPLE LIKE ME ARE BEING COMDEMED! WELL GUESS WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO BITE MY TOUNGE FOR MY VIEW POINTS! MAYBE BY PUTTING IT SO RAW AND BLUNT MANY SISTERS WOULDN'T BE SO NAIVE IN THEIR DESSION MAKING! YES MEN ARE FULL OF SHI#@ YES THEY LIE - YES THEY CHEAT- SO KNOWING THIS INFO- WHICH HAD INFACT BEEN HAPPING SINCE BIBLICAL DAYS- WOULDN'T THAT GIVE WOMEN A SMALL BIT OF INSIGHT TO BE THE MORE PRECAUTIOUS? DAH! WE HAVE TO BE STRONGER! WE HAVE TO BE WISER WER HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND NOT GET SO CAUGHT UP EMOTIONALY WHEN SEX IS INVOLVED!! NO ONE WANTS TO HER THE TRUTH--- MOST WANT ME TO SAY...ok baby you ok... PLEASE SHE KNEW- HE KNEW NOW THEY MUST FACE THE MUSIC!! SO DO YOU THAT WHY YOU ARE DEFENDING SIN! I TOLD YOU THE TRUTH HURT...:) ↑
What I am not understanding "think" is that you seem to think we don't want to face the truth. The point I think we are trying to make is that YOU have no PLACE to throw judgement. There is a difference between giving opinions and just being judgemental. You seem very passionate-So why don't you find another website to express your "passionate views". The women on here don't want your sympathy..we have everything we need in Christ.
But like I said before...people like you were put on this earth to make us stronger.
And by the way...Im glad you recognize that these things happened in the Biblical times...Im sure all of us (even you) are a product of someone "sinning"
Be "Blessed" ↑
AMEN "MOMMIE" Hopefully we will shut "think" up...all that preaching and judging, and telling us we want sympathy is wrong. she obviously has not been reading the postings well or can not understand them..and we all know what we are dealing with without hearing ANOTHER negative voice..because no matter what, I dstick true to my words....EVEN OUT OF MESS, GOD WILL BLESS! ↑
Fellow compassionate women, we all are taking a chance using this site for support. I say that those who choose to use this site to condemn those of us in situations they do not "really" know about or understand, just don't deserve our energy. Let them post, say words to us that really are their own disappointments in other areas of something they are not happy about in their lives. And we can continue to seek support and strength in numbers. There is always one who tries to ruin things, let them try. From what I am getting here, and from what I read from others who really are trying this can be a good thing! So keep talking, keep helping others, and save our energy for our families we are building. An old teacher of mine from grade school used to always say "don't feed the monkeys" ..meaning those who are seeking attention by acting out just are not worth it. So let's stop feeding the monkey(s) and be strong together!! ↑
"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." ↑
Why on earth did you even bother to tell his wife and family. If you had in fact been with him for 2 years then you should have known he was not going to leave his wife for you. IIts not my intension to upset anyone here, but i have been in a similar situation as you (me being the wife), and i know how upsetting this can be. I however did tell my dh that it was entirely up to him if he wanted to see his baby, but i wanted nothing to do with it. I had a mouthful of abuse from the other woman saying that it was my fault that her baby had no daddy. I did point out to her though, that he is MY husband and SHE was the other woman, she should have been more sensible (as well as him) in taking precautions or even better kept her legs crossed. Looking at the situation now, my advice to any woman having an affair with a married man is this, have more respect for yourself, if he is not willing to be entirely with you then is it worth having a relationship with him, if the affair is going on for a period of time you need to ask yourself why he is still with his wife, he more than likely has a good marriage and is in fact lying to you about 'what its really like'. As i have already said it is not my intension to upset anyone, i just wanted to give a little advice and insite in what its like for the wife in a situation like this. My situation has turned my world upside down, i have been married for 10 years and have fertility problems, so this was the ultimate betrayal. I have had 2 m/c the last was a result of being told my husband had had an affair and got the other woman pregnant. I myself am the sort of person who does not give up easy though, i took my vows and intend to keep them. It was my dh decision not the see the baby and we are going though counselling to help in our relationship. Ladies if you are having an affair with a married man, please think about the consequenses and the upset that you both could cause by doing this. ↑
To the entry about the husband not sing tha baby..I could understand ur point about u not seing the baby especially with the fertility problems and all butit really pulled on my heart when u said that ur husband decided not to see the baby, so now we have a child, imagine a innocent life/baby/toddler/teen who was brought into this world by the acts of TWO adults, ur husband and girlfriend, and then he just says Forget the baby, how selfish and wrong can that be? Do you understand my point? He has no right to injure this child by not acknowledging it, it will be hard, but the baby has no choice as of what situation it is born into..I am the other woman and am sorry for all the hurt and pain caused to u and the woman of my situation, and it was 2 yrs, I was truly deceived and a man can make u really think that what he is sayingis true, i wish could of spent a week in my shoes and thenu would know. Please consider making ur husband responsible for the life he made, we have enough children suffering in the world, why make another? Imagine if u did get pregnant and he left ur baby, would u be so understanding? ↑
To Understsanding. I do understand what your saying, and i do understand that women a can be taken in by such things and such men. Everybodys situation is different. I had told my husband that it was his choice whether or not he wanted to see the baby and his initial decision was that he wanted to be a part of the babys life , which i completely understood and respected, i however was not strong enough at the time to personally have any contact with the baby, which i explained to him that with time would probably change. The dilema he had though was after speaking to the other woman, she herself had decided that if he didnt want her it also meant he didnt want the baby, and no amount of talking would change her mind, which of course resulted in him having no contact with his son. I myself had said to her exactly what you said to me, that the child has done nothing wrong and deserves the right to know both parents, but to no avail. My husband does support the baby financially and all his personal details and pictures and such are with the other womans mother, who gladly took them with the hope that 1 day the baby will want to know who his father is. Im trying not to be bitter about the situation and have since talked to the babys grandmother (who happens to be very understanding) and explained my feelings about the situation and her daughter, not so much about the affair but the events which have taken place since she became pregnant. Both myself and my husband have hope that the baby will grow up and realise that his father not seeing him was not because he didnt want to, and we both expect one day for either the other woman or the baby (when he is old enough) to get in touch and resume the relationship of father and son. I hope your opinion of me changes, and would like to add that i dont blame the other woman for the affair, but am disgusted with what she is doing now, its just my wish that all women have more respect for themselves. If i wasnt married i wouldnt be in this relationship now. Its only that i have strong beliefs that faith in God that i am still here and able to talk about this now. ↑
to"iii" after i read your 1st response about why is he still with his wife, because he is pribably lying, well in those lines you gave me some insight and opened my eyes..i knew but did not want to know out of love for him..because no matter what our sin we(the other women) hurt too, and right now I am hurting a lot..I do thnk of u differently since th "other woman " obviously is using the baby against ur husband and she will inthe end be sorry, if her son finds out the truth and know that she kept him from his father out of spite...but as the other woman, how can I get him to understand that I am a person too and he is not only hurting his wife, but me..he goes back between us and has us hating each other when he is the bearer of all the problems..he plays games and lies and now I feel like I am caught up...I want and really need some strength to tight the wrong I have done, also I have apologized to the wife but only because he wanted me to pretend like we stopped butwe didn't, at the time I was not really ready to end it but now I know that it is time, it is long overdue..thanks for being able to talk to me even though I am the "other woman" because some of us are truly good people with bad mistakes.. ↑
To understanding...We are all good people at heart, we just get ourselves into stupid situations. I honestly dont think there is any way you can make him understand how you feel, it seems to me that he thinks he got his cake and is eating it too... You need to be strong for you and your child, and tell him that enough is enough and stick to your guns. He will soon realise what he has done and probably try to come running back, but dont listen to him. Youve reached the biggest hurdle your going to face, and that is the realisation of what youve done and what he is really like (a big fat lier). Im here if you want to talk and get advice. But i would also like to thank you for speaking to me and giving me an insight as to what is like to be the 'other woman'.. ↑
To !!!, I know understanding enough to know that what she is sharing is genuine! She really is such a kindhearted woman and as her friend I truly appreciate you being so kind to her. As for myself yes I too am the other woman, my situation is different but it does not make it any easier or okay at all. I was given the choice to terminate or keep. And by choosing to keep he would have to fess up and no longer be able to lie. He wanted me to terminate, but I couldn't. So by default he was forced to come clean. Then he tried to only tell part of the truth, but he has realized that the only way to deal with this properly is to be honest to all. I am going to sound so horrid, but I never ever wanted him for myself. And I can honestly say I have no genuine excuses for myself, they are useless at this point anyhow. I am having this child, and he is slowly beginning to realize that he is the one who has to choose now. I choose to love and nurture this life, it has no choice and will never know there was a moment where only one of us wanted him/her. I don't know what the future holds in any sense except for the fact I still do not see this as a punishment I just can't. I am finding myself not so alone as I expected, and what I am hearing is that mistakes happen and if we are able to admit that and find ways to improve our lives and move forward from here then who we really are inside can still exist. I don't know if any of what I have said is necessary or makes any sense but I guess for me to hear the other womans side is something I needed as well. I do feel for the wife, and I did believe she did need the truth. Because by minimizing what happened could potentially affect how my child is treated and I just cannot allow that. ↑
Hello "iii" thanks for listening and being able to realize that we (other women) might need to have women like you (wives) work with us to end theses situations.. I see that "me too" a friend of mine posted, thank you for calling me a good person, u have helped me so much.. Well to everyone, he called and came over and I talked and talked about my feelings, how I let my emotions blind me to what is right, his wife, our baby and he admitted to not wanting to leave her b/c of her feelings, but not wanting to let me go b/c of my feelings and baby, I told him that it is no longer his choice.. I do not deserve to be anyones' 2nd and that i have allowed him to let me degrade myself by staying in the situation..he can see baby whenever he wants but not in my room in the living room and if he trys to act a fool with me, I will call his wife personally...It was so hard, I kept choking on my words and was scared to let go of the last two years because he is all I knew, we actually had a real relationship..but as "me too:" said, there is strength in numbers and i can not believe that by my writing on the internet this is helping me out of bad situations..Thanks everyone who is supporting me I will share a motto that i already gave "me too"...it says "Stop Thinking about what I have lost/or may lose, instead look forward to what there is to GAIN!!!" ↑
I too am a wife. My situation is a little differant. My husband and I were split up for almost a year. He had five month relationship with another woman during our split up. When he and I decided to try to work things out is when we found out that she was 6 weeks pregnant. (They hadn't seen each other in a month.) It was hard at first for me to except that he was going to have a child with someone else. But we worked through it. The girlfriend would call our house all the time crying and upset about him leaving her. We had to change our phone number. Then we would get letters from her all the time asking him if he was going to be a daddy or a father. He always told her he would be there for the baby financially and to help raise her. The baby is here now and my husband wants to be a part of her life so bad. I support him in it. (She is a beautiful baby it is not her fault.) Her mother refuses to let him be a part of her life. The only way he can see her is if my husband goes to her house to see her. She does not want him to take her anywhere. The baby is 3 months old and he has only seen her 3 times. His family has not gotten to see her. He calls every week to check on her. It is just so frustrating for him because he wants to be in her life and she is not letting him. ↑
To "c" if your husband really wants to see his child and she will not let him, he can make sure he is paying child support, get a paternity test and get visitation that way b/c whether she wants to or not she can be ordered in court to let him see the baby..hopefully she will open her eyes before all this has to happen and think of the baby that she obviously did not make by herself..i do not know all the details but maybe she feel slighted b/c they were together and then he came back to u, maybe she did not think it was possible and had the wrong impression..she will have to get over her pain before she will stop using the baby as a tool.. i hope everything works out... ↑
To understanding... You should be very proud of yourself. I hope you now feel like you have your self respect back 100%. Like you said you deserve to be number 1 in a relationship or at least number 2 after your child and not another woman. What you have done must be very hard, and will continue to be just as hard or even at times harder until one day it isnt an issue. If you find it difficult being in on your own with him, then dont, ask a friend or family member to be around when he visits. He may think by doing that that you cant resist him, but what it will really mean is that you have stopped letting him control that part of your life. His wife too will in time realise that you are now doing a good thing and helping her, yourself and your child get though the situation with no chance of history repeating itself, and she will then be able to start to forgive you and her husband for what has happened. Im saying this as a wife as i know that if the 'other woman' in my situation had done this i would have been able to move forward and build my trust with my husband a lot quicker than what i am at the moment. The other woman in my situation is still trying to get my husband to go back to her, my husband shows me text messages she sends him asking him to go back to her and have a life as a family in her home. My husband shows these massages to me so that i can start to trust that he has learnt from his mistakes and will (hopefully) never do it again. She has even sent a message saying that it is my fault she is in this situation and i dont deserve to have children with my husband, and this was proved when i miscarried. My only wish at this time would be for her to realise the things she has said and done and apologise to me and to let my husband see his son. We all make mistakes, but its only when we face up to that that the mistakes can be put right. ↑
To "!!!" well it has begun, after our talk yesterday he showed up at my house at 9:15 last night, and rang the bell and beat on it until10:20, I finally opened the door and he was asking why am I being "mean" to him, I advised him it was over.. I had originally threatened to cal his wife but i did not b/c i did not feel like her acting like i was lying and he was not there..and then she would of contined to cal l me allnight b/c she wouldof thought I was trying to upset her.. if I did not want her to know where i lived, i would of called and siad please come get ur husband(smile) anyway he begged and pleaded unitl about 11:30 then got angry and said he should of known that I would f*** up his marriage and then not stood by his side...as I remeber correctly his marriage was already over, as he said, when we pursued he relationship.. He is sucha part of my life that there is going to be longggg days ahead..i have one sister in town and one best friend so he was the majotrity of my company.., he comes and keeps baby, fixes car, everything I have done in the last two yrs has involved him, but I am going to join a gym and find other thing to do to keep him away..thanks for lstening..also to "me too" i sent you a email... ↑
To understanding.. You have reached the 1st hurdle and jumped straight over it..Well done!. If he askes again why you are doing this, remind him that he is the one who has lied and cheated his way not just into your bed but also his wifes, who he clearly is not going to leave. In order to keep going you need to remind yourself that he is the cheat and the lier, he is the one who has made a lifetime of false promises, and if this still gets hard ask yourself if you would be able to trust him if you were to carry on any sort of relationship with him, whether he was still married or not. If he can do this to a person who he declared his undying love for and made vows to then he wouldnt think twice about doing it to you. I want also want to thank you and apologise to you and all the other 'other women', because if it were not for you i would have placed all women who had affairs with married men under the same bracket as the one who is in my life, and this is clearly not the case. Keep up the good work (by that i mean sticking to your guns and bringing up your child). There is no doubt in my mind that you are a very good person ↑
And The Moral of The Story Is.....
don't get involved with a Married man, especially when you "KNOW" he's married be prepared to face the consequences. If you were comfortable being the "other woman" then that's all you will ever be in his life. Have self respect and dignity and know you can have a man that can truely be "yours", and live the life you truely deserve. ↑
I am now at a point where the wife knows, and she thinks I am selfish and horrid for not terminating this pregnancy. Her husband wished I had, but now "says" he has accepted this. And now she is demanding a blood test, proof of my pills, and proof of due date. I will only allow the dr. to furnish a piece of paper validating pregnancy, the rest of the information is mine. I do understand this is difficult for her as well. But the impression I am getting is that I am the plague. I do want to ask any of you women a question.... i do not believe in termination for myself. So due to the circumstances I chose the only option I know, but the father wanted me to abort, now the wife is pissed I didn't abort and says i am wrong to bring this child into this world. As wives in this situation( please be honest I will never see your face or judge I am just really trying to get some outside input on this) Did you ever wish the other woman had aborted? Since the baby being born have you thought that? I don't understand, have never been around this kind of situation and just really want to try to understand how others may feel about this. She knows who I am, she knows the kind of mother I am but because this is her husbands child I should not keep it because it means it will take away from their life. When all I can really think about is how unfair to this unborn life it is to just terminate. I really do welcome thoughts on this. I feel so naive, but I do need to hear from others., ↑
This is directed to "me too" the father of my child wanted me to aborty as well but my child now almost two is the biggest blessing in my life. You made one mistake by being with a married man don't make another by ending this innocent child's life that's taking the easy way out. It will be hard don't get me wrong but the pros out way the cons so much more. Focus all your energy into you and the baby and everything else will come in time. ↑
reply to channtai. I am not terminating honey, never was an option for me. I am just trying so hard to understand how people can think that if the baby would go away then life would be fine. Just as I found out today, she is instructing her husband to not pay me a penny til I show proof of pregnancy and when I do they will get a lawyer. Well not only was he married but he was my boss, so I am now no longer employed as having me around was no longer convenient. So apparentely I have my work cut out for me. Thank you for your advice, I am most definitely keeping this child. Not at all for him or for what we had, but because it is a life and it deserves to be loved as my daughters and I will. There is not one member of my family who will punish this child. Unlike the wife is plotting behind my back to do to me. She wished for me to miscarry, abort, or for him to lobby for adoption. Like I don't get a choice in this. She said my child will never have a happy life in this situation. Uggghhh, I am so hurt and devastated at how wicked people can be. Be mad at me sure, but don't ever wish harm on my child or watch out!! ↑
This to "me too" I am happy you are keeping your baby you won't regret it. My daughters wife said my daughter would pay and get hers for the way she came into this world, but calls herself a Christian woman. I quit my job to get away from him and found out a month later I was pregnant. I understand how you feel and I am always free if you want or need to talk. ↑
channtai: did you get a job right away? did he have to pay you support considering? I was advised at one point that what I was involved in was sexual harassment, but I wouldn't go there as we were okay at that time and I never ever thought he would hurt me in this sense. You say your child is 2? Does the father see the baby? How is his wife about that? Thank you for answering my questions, it really does help me. I think I was much more naive going into this than I realized. I just can't believe they want me to terminate and she is hoping I miscarry. ↑
He lied to his wife so much about us and the baby that he slept with me twice and we were together for over two years. I took him down to child support because he was real shady during my pregnancy. I never thought he would hurt me the way he has either but he did. When we went to child support he lied about his job and income. When i busted his bubble about him lying to child support he took me to court saying I harrassed him and tried to get a peace order against me. The case was dismissed he started to see her like twice-three times a week which didn't last long. He would stop communicating for awhile then come back now I haven't heard from him in awhile. I made him responsible for his child the only way I could the rest is up to him. The wife does not object to him seeing her but doesn't want anything to do with her. His sister asks about her a lot and I try to take her over every weekend to spend time with her family. I didn't find a job right a way and I was so sick during my pregnancy that I could not work. But I have a good job a new car and my baby girl so I am good. Don't get me wrong I want him to be a part of her life but he has growing up to do and a lot to face up to that he is not ready to deal with yet, but I told him the door is always open when it comes to her. ↑
Thank you Channtai so much for sharing your situation with me. The father of my baby was my employer, long story short...I no longer have a job. At 3 months pregnant I know I will not be hired elsewhere. I am not making demands on him, as this is still new to all of us. He has one child, and I have two. What I am finding is that his wife is demanding he put the her and "their"child first and not allow himself to give as much to this child. I have two other children and I know this child is just as important as they are no matter who their dad is. I am thinking maybe this is the case in many affairs? Do the wives think the husband should not be there as much for the new child as it is not part of the marriage therefore not really his "real" child? This only occured to me tonite as there were some discussions between him and I in regards to what he feels he can be a part of as his wife will determine what is okay and not. We mothers have such a natural bond, and I now realize I am guilty myself of just assuming fathers will allow themselves to commit to this new child without having to ask permission first. ↑
Chantelle... You need to realise that you (as well as the husband) have broken the wifes' heart. You have no idea of the pain she is going through. I am saying this as a wife. You are right, that child is just as important as any other child born. I have no answers as to why the wife is acting the way she is as everyones situation is different, but i can say from my own experiences, that i too at one time wished the other woman to abort, thinking back now it was a very harsh thought, but the fact that my husband was having a baby with someone else devistated me. It probably isnt just the thought of you and her husband having a baby, but the fact that her husband will never be able to cut all ties with you, which in turn means that you have not just helped ruin this womans life, but you are always going to be a part of it, which also means that the broken heart which she now has is never going to heal, it may scar up but will never completely heal properly. You went into this relationship with your eyes open to the fact that this man was married, and unfortunately he will never have to face the consequenses that you will. Every wife will find it easier to BLAME the other woman, we all know in our hearts that it takes two to tango, but nothing like this happened before you came along, which is why you will have to take the majority of the blame. You need to stop any romantic relationship you have with this man, and if necessary go to court to prove this this child is his and make him financially support his child. This woman is not just hurting from what has happened, but is more than likely ashamed of herself for not noticing what her husband was and maybe still doing to her, and she has to face the fact that everyone she knows will not just be judging her husband but also her, and she will in turn be made to feel like a fool and maybe even to blame for what has happened, which lets face it none of this was her fault. You and the husband need to take responsibilty for what has happened and stop feeling sorry for yourself, you owe this woman the right to know that not only this child is his but that there is no chance of history repeating itself. Every time he goes to see you he is digging another needle into her pain. Im not saying this to have a go, but to jive you an insight to what it is like for the ones who are left to pick up the pieces of your actions. ↑
First to"me too" you do have a strong case of sexual harrassment. If he does not provide for you while carrying his child and support the child I would pursue talking with a lawyer. First talk and try to reason with him then you will have no regrets going forward. Second to "!!!" I did not know at first he was married and I have taken him to child support and his is taking care of his child financially. As far as his wife shew knows this is not his first affair I was the first one to keep the baby. He has been dipping out on her for years and even while with me. I apologized to her and I told her it was never my place to tell her but his I only wanted him to take care of his daughter which he chose to be some timey about. The child majority of the time always gets the leftover time from the other kids. I don't deal with him period and nothing sexual will ever happen between us again. I don't need to talk with him unless it's about our daughter we don't even need to cotact one another for him to see her he can go through my mother or his sister for that. ↑
Frankly i can not imagine why you would have a 2 year "relationship" with a MARRIED man and expect it to go anywhere. obviously you are making a desperate attempt to hold onto him no matter what the cost to anyone else, i cant think of anything more selfish."he told me to have an abortion or he would leave me" ?? did i miss something here? he was never with you to start with you deluded girl. you express false concern that he will leave his wife but it is exactly what you hoped for when you told her you were pregnant how spiteful and selfish of you. and why weren't you using protection? because im sure you wanted to get pregnant thats why or you wouldnt even be considering keeping this baby. ↑
