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Name: smmom2
Question: : We are all here for the loss of our children. Some of us are begining again, and some of us are trying, some of us are just trying to cope. We support eachother through every moment of life now, maybe with a little help from Sandwaby ( stands for Sad and wanting a baby) or the rest of us in SANDHABY ( sick and having a baby) . And now we even have a STANDHABY ( second trimester and having a baby) . All os us have come a long way !!! We have become more then support....we have become friends. So either way, come on in and join us...everyone is welcome!!!! ?

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Name: MissP | Date: July 14, 2008, 2:52
Answer: Hi girls, its been a quiet sunday so i just wanted to say happy monday to everyone! I woke up at 6am and this is the best chance i get to catch up with you all. Dh has a big interview today so im going to be busy ferrying him around and also applying for my maternity allowance, got loads of forms to fill in and get sent off. Wow im glad im not working. Ive got to prepare myself for tomorrow aswell, the next big scan. Tuesdays are going to be like D-day from now on for me. Still i guess it has to be done. Tylers been quite active all weekend and started doing those weird slow movements where it feels like hes elbowing you from your groin to your ribs. Its so weird when i feel it, still havent got used to that one! The kicks and the flips are fine but that one is bizarre! Well, not much to say this morning from me, but il post tomorrow probably and let you know about the scan and dh's interview. Think positive for both of them girlies!! Take care x x x =

Name: MissP | Date: July 14, 2008, 2:56
Answer: Oh yes, i was gonna say your shower sounded very sweet smmom and im glad you had a good weekend. I dont even know if il be having a shower seeing as ive no idea when hes coming. I should probably have one soon! Ah so you are 33 wks and shabnam is 35. That puts me next at 28 and then how many is sarah9? Jstaley / Bryandi / shanaT how many do you have? Just trying to make a timeline here, it helps my poor brain which is working at half speed right now. Ok, im off again, see you later girls x x x =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 14, 2008, 10:33
Answer: Hi girls, sorry its been so long, I was off on Friday and just enjoying my weekend… now that I am back at work, I am ready to update with you ladies… see where my priorities are? Ha ha ….BRANDYI: Yes the birth chart says boy… I had that beer for you… but I would trade it for what you have! It will all be worth it once you have your baby here…. How are you feeling? KENDALYN: I am so glad that you are past the dnc…. How are you doing? Just think – that is behind you now and you can focus on getting healthy and then ttc again when your ready… best of luck girl, and if you need to talk – we are here to listen. MISSP: Sounds like you and Tyler are doing well, I am so happy to hear that. Before you know it … he will be here in your arms, healthy and perfect. You have been through so much and you deserve it. My thoughts are with you tomorrow as you go for your scan. Please let us know how it goes. JUDI: I had similar results with my testing, there wasn’t a single thing they could find to explain either of my losses, on one hand I wanted there to be something a reason if you will so they could fix it… its hard to accept, it was just bad luck.. that is what they keep telling me though. Just be glad there isn’t something terrible wrong with you, maybe its just gods will.. I don’t know. I wish I did know why I lost two babies, but I strongly feel someday it will be clear to me. There is such a small chance that the antibodies caused your m/c that if that was the case, like you said deal with it at that time. At least they have something to look for. Good luck! SMMOM: Glad you had fun at your shower! Does it feel real to you? I always wonder when I get to be pregnant again, how will it feel? Will I let myself get excited and anticipate the baby or will I live in fear the whole time? All you pregnant girls… do you ever relax??? Where are all my ttc buddies? I am on CD10 now… I usually O on CD11-13… so this is my week! I haven’t mentioned to my DH so as not to put pressure on him. I plan on using the preseed this month again…. Wish me luck girls. I am not using OPKs or temping, just bding every other day and hoping for a sticky bean…..Happy Monday to you all……  =

Name: Lexxy | Date: July 14, 2008, 10:42
Answer: Morning ladies, hope everyone is rested after the weekend! I'm on cycle day 11 right now, getting some wierd ovulation pain on my left side - I don't think it has been this noticeable before. I wasn't expecting it to be this early...so DH and I got started on Saturday and I ended up spotting afterwards??? What does this mean?? Like Lisa, we are using preseed...I'll be thinking of you everyday this week girl! All us cycle buddies should set a schedule and maybe with the power of numbers and all of us TTC at the same time, will create a whole extra bunch of sticky beans for everyone ...ha ha ha. Better get back to work before anyone catches me :) I will check in again later.  =

Name: jstaley1228 | Date: July 14, 2008, 12:54
Answer: Oh, wow…it’s getting to be THAT time for all our ttc girlies! Lisa, Lexxy, Erin, Judi…who else? I’m keeping it all crossed for ya and a constant flow of baby dust coming your way! Miss P, I bet that is so awesome to feel Tyler just rolling around in there like that. It must do wonders for your peace of mind. I will say a special prayer for your dh’s job interview. Mine is taking his bar in two weeks! So close. I can’t wait for him to be done with that so things can get back to semi-normal, anyway. Shelly, your shower sounds like a blast! I can’t wait for mine…which is still month’s and month’s away so I’d better get over it. My mom and dh and I went and bought all our nursery furniture yesterday. That was so much fun. It won’t be in for a few months but that gives me something to look forward to anyway. Well, I’d better run and grab lunch before I get too hungry. Later, ladies! =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 14, 2008, 13:11
Answer: Yep this is it for us girls... our big week to catch that egg! Lets hope in about two weeks time we all have some great news to share!!!! =

Name: Erin_thenurse | Date: July 14, 2008, 15:49
Answer: Ladies, today I had my cd 12. I have 8 follicles on the right ovary with the largest 10 x 8. Left ovary has 9 follicles and the largest 12 x10. They said that if I ovulated, it would be in the next 5 days, which makes sense since I ovulated on cd 17 last month. They are just so nonchalant about my fertility. Allen thinks that since I am 25, they don’t take my infertility seriously. If I was 35 then they would be so much more aggressive. Anyways, they just really frustrated me today. They said that the clomid might take a few cycles to work and they may need to up my dosage. This is already my third cycle!! How long do they want to me to wait?? The 10 years?? UGGHH! They just drive me crazy sometimes. We are trying bding every other day this cycle. Anyone ovulated yet?? How are all my ttc girls doing?? Sorry I have been gone so long!! =

Name: Lexxy | Date: July 14, 2008, 16:05
Answer: I'm with you Erin - we are on the every other day plan this cycle too...but my body is really confusing me. I feel like I am ovulating (pain and CM), but I test and it's negative...plus it's a little early for me (usually around day 16). I also had very small spotting on Saturday and today. I wish there was a more clear cut sign - like a big "O" on your belly or something!! I'm thinking of ya girl! =

Name: decbaby | Date: July 14, 2008, 18:19
Answer: hello ladies, you all will find me new to this thread, even though i have been constantly checking in to see how you all have been doing the reason why i didnt write before was that i had just had a miscarriage and was not ready to share at the time or i felt that i had nothing to say i guess i was just too devastetated and shocked and reading how most of you had similar experiences i felt that i had nothing to add. any ways MISS P i hope that every thing turns out great for you and little tyler you're always in my prayers, jstaley I can imagine that the waiting is exhausting and exciting both at the same time, I hope that you’ll get to throw you shower soon and that it will be great. For all of you who are ttc I wish you all the best of luck as I will be ttc soon again perhaps next month and this scares me to death as I can’t imagine going through another miscarraiage plus there’s also the fear of not being able to conceive at all, Erin im so glad to know that your 25 so am I. I hope that you guys don’t find me imposing or unwelcome.  =

Name: smmom2 | Date: July 14, 2008, 19:55
Answer: MISSP.....I hope dh gets his job..that would be great !! And I hope that Tyler hangs in there a few more weeks for you !!! And 28 weeks is awesome !!! You are getting so far. Trust me..one never gets used to those across the belly movements. I say...if all goes well..have that shower this week. LISA>.... I dont think we will ever relax....We have all lost a baby..and that takes away the innocense of pregnancy. You will let yourself be excited, when you feel that this baby is with your for the long 9 months...but you wont ever fully relax. You will be scared !! And it wont go away after the baby is born either !!! That is a new set of fears though. GOOD LUCK with your bding this week!! I am throwing you lots of sticky dust and hoping this is your cycle...all three of you ttc ladies, Lexxy, Erin and Judi !!! This could be it ladies !!! JILLL.....how are you feeling these days....is the m.s. going away finally ???? You have your scan this week...or is it next??? The BIG scan..so exciting !!! ERIN...I have a friend that is 34....she has 2 healthy kids...and one m/c in between the kids. She just got remarried and has been trying for 10 months. She went to a fertility specialist and they put her on Chlomid and told her if that didnt work they could do some U/S or something on her to see what is going on. So they are SOooo not being aggressive with her either. The first time she went they told her to come back in 6 months. SO ...I hope that makes you feel better. Lets hope this is your month !!! All those follicles better!!!! LEXXY...the spotting could just be left over blood from af coming out...or just from bding. It happens sometimes. DECBABY>>>Welcome to the thread...and you are always welcome. I am so sorry for your loss. I know the fear of losing another makes ttc hard...but it can also be rewarding. I am now 33 weeks along with my little boy...and I lost my little girl at 12 1/2 weeks last OCT. It is never easy. We will all be here for you routing you on !!! AS for me ladies...I am having bad pains today...and of course back to not sleeping at all. i am also back to getting nauseas every afternoon.Also the fatigue. I am hoping this all doesnt last the next 7 weeks. But Carson is worth it !!! I have dd's bday this weekend...and her big girl bed should be here....so I can put together her room and Carson will be bunking with us for awhlie....so I will be putting his stuff together. Then maybe i will feel like everything is ready !!! ALl I need to do is get him some clothes to wear in public !!! Ok ladies....I need to go get the girls ready for bed. !!! =

Name: lilymummy | Date: July 14, 2008, 20:16
Answer: Welcome Decbaby and sorry for your loss. I can tell you right now you are in the right place for support, so keep on posting. At the moment I am lost as to whether to expect AF, ovulation, or what as I am about 5 weeks from my d and c. I am hearing about people who are 12 weeks pregnant and feeling down as I should be about 14 weeks now, but I am trying to keep my chin up and say to myself "not to be". Miss P it is great news Tyler is kicking up a storm, each kick is a beautiful thing. I'm getting so excited that soon there will be some birth announcements on this thread, not to mention some beautiful BFPs.  =

Name: smmom2 | Date: July 15, 2008, 9:26
Answer: Good morning ladies.....Hope you all have a good Tuesday. LILLY....Have you gotten first AF yet??? I think once that happens you can expect to o around the nrmal time.....in your cycle. And then it is the dreaded 2 ww.. I pray there are lots of sticky beans this cycle for all you ttc ladies so we can have more BFPS !!!! Have a good day ladies !! MISSP.....good luck today with Tyler !!! Please post and let us know what happens!! =

Name: Shabnam | Date: July 15, 2008, 9:34
Answer: Hey ladies! Sorry I have been MIA. I am studying for my last exam before I do the accreditation and its driving me nuts. I can't wait till its over. I will finally be able to catch up with all of you. Decbaby, welcome to the thread and I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. Smmom, so glad you had a great baby shower. I can't wait till mine... I just hope I don't deliver before... MissP, It's great that Tyler keeps moving around. I know feeling Shireen gives me the greatest peace of mind. I saw the dr. yesterday. Everything seems to be fine but from the ultrasound it seems her left kidney is still dilated at 8.2mm. So she will need extra care once she is born. Dr. says she isnt worried but for some reason that doesnt make me feel better... Nothing can be done for now so I guess i need to deal with it. On a brighter note. Shireen finally has nursery furniture! YAY. Dh was so excited to put it all together lol. Anyhow ladies, I need to get back to my studying. You are all in my thoughts. My TTC ladies, I am shipping a tremendous amount of babydust to you. Kendalyn, I am glad your D&C went well. How are you feeling now? The pg ladies, hope you are all enjoying your pregnancies... even with all the aches and pains. Love you all; hugs n kisses. =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 15, 2008, 9:35
Answer: ERIN: How frustrating for you! I bet your DH is right, because your young they don't take you as seriously as if you were 10 years older, that isn't fair at all. I am now on CD11, so O could happen for me anytime between now and Saturday, I am going to also bd everyother day this week and see what happens. I can usually tell when I O b/c I have cramps so i am going to try to tune into my body and see if I can get any signs... good luck!!! LEXXY: are you taking the OPKS once a day? My Dr. told me that you should take them twice a day because you could miss the surge.. don't know how true that is as I don't use the opks anymore (they frustrated me!) and found temping to be a great way to track my cycles, but right now I am not doing anything but next month if I don't get my bfp I plan on temping again. DECBABY! Welcome girl! I am so sorry about your m/c. Its a unique bond all of us girls share here, you are more than welcome to join our group. I promise you that you won't find a group of ladies who are more compassionate than these chickys.... we have all had devastating losses but now you will find many have gone on to have successful pregnancies, and those of us who haven't yet support eachother and hope.... its nice to have a place to chat with women who understand exactly how your feeling. SMMOM: thanks girl! I hope that baby dust works! Sounds like your nesting! How exciting... Carson will be here before you know it! I am so excited for you. LILLYMUMMY: is there a chance you didn't know when you O'ed? How frustrating for you! I hope your body starts cooperating with you!!!! MISSP: Praying for you and Tyler today for your big scan... I have everything crossed that it goes good for you. I hope you all have a great day! LISA ((HUGS)) =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 15, 2008, 10:55
Answer: DEBABY - sorry about your loss. you are more than welcome to join us here. i hope we can give you the support you need to get through this tough time. SMMOM - i am so glad you enjoyed your shower. i will email you soon. MISSP - it's awesome that tyler is doing so well, God bless. tell us about the scan today. ERIN - that is aggravating that the drs won't give you more attention. have you tried finding someone else? i think you need someone more sympathetic and proactive towards your situation. SHABNAM - when is your shower? how exciting that you are rounding out the last trimester w/SMMOM. LISA and LEXXY - i hope the pressed works and that you fall pg this cycle and i hope ERIN and i fall pg this cycle too! LILYMUMMY - i understand how you feel, i think we all do. believe me, everyone around me is getting pg and just yesterday i was crying and thinking that i should have been about 38 weeks today. my edd is coming up in about 2 weeks and and i will be hurting knowing that it was the day our son would have been born, but i will be absolutely ecstatic if i am pg w/another. talk about bitter sweet. JSTALEY - i can't wait for your dh to get the bar overwith too, haha. it'll be such a relief that it's over and both you and him can then go back to enjoying each other's company (of course w/the stress of the results, which i am sure will be fine!). =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 15, 2008, 11:02
Answer: as for me ladies, i think i need your support more than ever. i am so upset right now. basically... when dh and i got married, we both wanted children, but not right away. but the last 2 of the 4 years we have been married, dh has been telling me he does not want children. whatever his reasons are, i don't care b/c i want children. when we got pg w/our son, it was not planned, but we were both so excited. of course, we had our fears and concerns, but we were really happy. then when we had our loss, we were both very upset and we talked about having a baby in the near future. then finally the time came for us to start bd-ing again and he dropped the bomb on me that he does not want children. i don't know what to do. after fighting, arguing ang crying, we managed to bd on sunday but that's CD13 and the dr suggested to start bd-ing starting CD14 and every other day thereafter. now i don't know if i O-ed or not b/c i haven't been charting properly or checking CM. i wasn't expecting this to happen. i am hoping and praying that i can convince him that we should bd this week, as the dr said and that God willing we will get pg this cycle b/c i am losing this uphill battle w/him and i know if i don't get pg this cycle, God forbid, then next month will kill me in fighting w/him again. i don't know what to do. i know he will be a great father and he loves kids, but i don't know how to make him realize that his fears and selfishness is not warranted. please pray for me ladies, please. i need all the thoughts and prayers i can get b/c i can't go through this alone. it's one thing for God to decide if we shouldn't have our own children, but i want to at least try. btw, does anyone know whether i could get pg on CD13 of using clomid on CD5-9? God, i hope i get pg this cycle with a healthy baby. ughhhhhhh =

Name: cynnababy | Date: July 15, 2008, 11:28
Answer: WOW, i can't believe some of you are getting really close! I So, is Shabnam next on the list? then smmom, then MissP, then who else? you gals need to give me updates on everyone. I can;t scroll all the way back to old threads to read up on all progress! I hope we have a nice permanent thread to keep everyone's status! If you gals want to read about my brith stories, and Jazlyn's progress, visit my livejournal website at cynnababy (dot) livejournal (dot) com =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 15, 2008, 15:21
Answer: ladies, i don't write that often, but now that i have written and can use some moral support, is there no one out there who will respond? :( =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 15, 2008, 15:30
Answer: Hi JUDI - SOrry no one responded yet, this board is dead during the work day... you will get some responses tonight for sure. I am sorry you are going through this with your DH, do you think maybe he is just scared of losing another one? In my mind that isn't fair at all, thats a huge thing and if he said he wanted children before you were married, its not fair that once someone has given you themselves forever to change his mind. Now I have a question for you, are having children important enough to you that you are willing to not be with him if it means you can't have kids with him? I guess what I am asking is - if you had to choose him or being a mom which would you pick? Now that is an unfair question I am sure because how do you choose? What are his reasons? I am so sorry, of course I have my opinion, but I don't think that is what your looking for here, I wish I could help. I am here to listen and offer whatever I can to you. I just know that if my DH told me before we were married he didn't want kids I dont think I would have married him, but if he dropped that on me after we were married I don't know what I would do. ((HUGS))) so sorry for all of this.  =

Name: Lexxy | Date: July 15, 2008, 15:56
Answer: Judi – I am so sorry that you are going through all this right now when you should be focusing on TTC. I am wondering if your DH is just so scared to go through a loss again that this is his defenses going up – like he would rather have no children than have you and him go through the sadness and pain of another loss? I know some men that weren’t “over joyed” at being pregnant until the baby was born…like they needed real proof or something. Could it be that he is scared? Does he remember the excitement you described when you found out you were pregnant the first time? Maybe he just needs a reminder of the excitement and happiness of pregnancy and babies, and he will change his feelings. I am praying for you that you and DH will get back on track and have the same goals in life.  =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 15, 2008, 17:40
Answer: LISA & LEXXY - thanks so much for responding. i have been so upset. while he may be scared of another loss, he has mentioned that he is scared of having children b/c of the responsibility, b/c of how terrible the world is, b/c he thinks he will be a bad father, b/c the children won't love him and worst of all, he says that he is selfish and doesn't want to lose the freedom he has now. although when we first got pg, he wasn't ecstatic, w/time he was pretty excited and was going around telling even just acquantances once we passed the first trimester. i don't know why he is doing this. unfortunately, even though i love him so much, i know that if i don't have children, i will just be bitter and resentful towards him. these past 5 months have been so tough after the loss that many times i have cried upon finding out that someone we know is now pregnant or has had a baby. all this time he comforted me through the my sad moments and even talked to me about having children in the near future and now that it's time he is doing this. i don't know what to do. i can't wait for him to come around considering he said he doesn't see himself ever wanting children. i didn't go crazy making drs appts and taking provera and clomid for him to do this to me at the most crucial time of ttc. i told him we have to at least try this month and see what God's decision is. i am hoping i fall pg this cycle and then carry a health ybaby to full term. that way this whole thing will be moot and i won't have to go into depression or have another uphill battle next month. please pray for me ladies, you guys are a great support and i need all the support and prayers i can get. i am really hurting inside. like the loss of our child and the problems of ttc weren't enough that now i have to deal w/a dh who is being absolultely difficult. thanks again for your kind words, LISA and LEXXY. =

Name: Erin_thenurse | Date: July 15, 2008, 18:32
Answer: Judi, I am so sorry to hear about the struggles you are having with your DH. It seems so unfair that after all this time and waiting that he would change his mind. I believe that this is one of the most stressful times in our lives and we need all the support that we can get. To answer your question about clomid, I will tell you about my experience. As you know, I take clomid cd3-7 and last cycle I o'd on cd 17. After my sono this week, it said that I would probably O' on cd 17 again. As for you, I would pick up some cheap opts and just check to see if you O' this week. I know that sperm can live up to 5 days but you have better chances if you bd as close as you can to when you O'. I really don't know what to say about what your dh wants. I would just sit him down and explain to him that this is something that you want and need more than anything else in the world. Sometimes guys don't understand that huge whole in our hearts that can only be filled by a baby. I hope that you work this out and you can come to an agreement. It sounds so heartbreaking. Please let me know what happens. =

Name: lilymummy | Date: July 15, 2008, 19:32
Answer: Hi guys - Judi, I'm sorry I haven't had the chance to log on since my post yesterday, so I didn't see your post til just now. (I was doing our tax returns last night after work. Fun.......not!). I'm sorry and I can certainly relate as my DH was similar, but once I got pregnant, then misicarried, he realised how wrong he had been to feel like he wouldn't be a good father or any of the things your DH is feeling. My advice is just to proceed and you will see how thrilled he is when you get a sticky bean. My husband actually demanded to know (when we were in the delivery room) what had taken us so long to decide to have a baby. I just pointed at him and the midwives all cracked up. I can understand your fury with him for not wanting to bd when you needed him to, but it will happen. If you would feel too resentful, you must try. I'm sorry, I can't answer your Clomid question, but try googling it or ringing oyur doctor to ask about the day 13 question. We are all here for you and reading your story reminided me of my DH several years ago. Give him a little time....men are slower and weaker than us at most things I have learned. My husband said many of the things your DH did in the first years of our marriage and now you couldn't find a more devoted dad. He is actually more gung ho than me now about a second baby. Stay tough, we are all here for you. About me, i keep getting weird sensations in my pelvis, which I welcome as I feel things are getting back on track after the miscarriage. Of course it is possible I have ovulated, just when would be the question. After my first d and c, AF came after 43 days. Who knows where I am in my cycle? Best of luck to all those TTcing at the moment, and all of you "up the duff" ladies who are getting close. By the way, i am reading a great book called "The Stork Club" by Imogen Edwards-Jones about trying to conceive. If you want a great read, track it down. We can all relate!!! =

Name: smmom2 | Date: July 15, 2008, 19:48
Answer: Hello ladies....SHAB....good luck with your test !!! Last one...YEY !!! LISA>...baby dust indeed....we need those BFPS girlies. JUDI....first you should have emailed me.....you and DH need to be on the same page as far as wanting kids. You will never be happy with not having kids..so that wont work. I think he would be sooo thrilled to have a baby, but maybe you should tell him how much this means to you and how much it would hurt if he did not let you try. Tell him to put it in GODs hands and not his own. Also, if he doesnt, then I kinda think he is being selfish and not thinking how could affect your marriage !!! But keep inmind that maybe he is terrified of losing another baby also, or watching you go through it may hurt him. SO...talk to him. And Yes...you can get pg on cd 13...but I would try and get some more bding in there just in case !!! I wish you much luck this cycle...I know you need it !!  =

Name: Lexxy | Date: July 15, 2008, 19:51
Answer: JUDI - I just wanted to let you know that all those reasons you stated for your DH not wanting kids are exactly how I felt before I got married! But now having a baby is the most important thing for me. Men are slow and stubborn...he will come around, it just may take longer than a woman! He knows inside that it is what he wants...otherwise he wouldn't have told mere acquaintances the first time...he's just scared. You are in my prayers tonight. xx =

Name: smmom2 | Date: July 15, 2008, 20:08
Answer: Kath...maybe those sensations are a good sign of your body being back on track. Maybe you did o. !! JUDI....I am not sure about chlomid, as I never took it. But If I were you, I would try and bd atleast 2-3 more times to be safe. I would also tell dh that every single guy in the world has mixed feelings about being a dad...until it happens. They all think...I am going to be terrible and my kids will hate me and I will never have the same life. But the truth is....their lives will never be the same...it gets better. ANd freedom will go away...I wont lie....but he will get it back when they are older. And it is so worth it. I would tell him it is normal to worry about those things and that the baby would prove him wrong !!! OK ladies...Oh....CYNN....Shab is 35 weeks...due in August. I am 33 weeks, Due Sept 2nd, MissP is 28 weeks, due in Oct. but will probably deliver early as she is very very low on amniotic fluid !! Then I think is Sarah9, then Jill, Bryandi, and ShanaT who are all 18 weeks now. They are all due in I believe Dec. And then we are waiting on Lexxy, Judi, Lisa, Erin and Decbaby. I am praying MISSP that all went ok today with Tyler...please let us know if you had to deliver or if it is ok for another week !!! Ok ladies..I must go..have a good evening! =

Name: Shabnam | Date: July 15, 2008, 23:53
Answer: JUDI, I am so sorry you are going through this with dh right now. I think the gals are right though. Men are slow and scared and not as strong as we are. I would have a serious talk with dh. Not a fight or argument but a calm talk. The other thing i wanted to say is, he doesnt need to know when its that time of the month when you ovulate. I never told my dh when i was ovulating... I was just more "in the mood" at that time. Men usually don't say no. I think it makes ttc less stressful and less of a chore. But I would really have a chat with dh. It is unfair of him to deprive you from being a mother. I think this is a birthright we all have and only God can take it away. Not a man! I will keep you in my prayers. =

Name: MissP | Date: July 16, 2008, 5:42
Answer: Hi girls, ok il give you my news first and then respond to everyone...the scan went well yesterday. The baby has turned so hes head down now and that means the doc could get an excellent view for a change. He cant find ANYTHING wrong with him, hes all working perfectly. So thats made me feel sooo much better. Also, because hes moved they got a clearer picture and were able to find another tiny pocket of fluid so its gone back up slightl;y to 6cm. Not a great deal, but enough for me to have a small sigh of relief. The doc thinks rather than gaining fluid, it was there all the time and it was just very hard tio find it on the last 2 scans. Sooo thats the good news. The slightly negative news is that because theres still no explanation for the low fluid and placenta issues the doctors are now guessing it could be something to do with the toxoplasmosis i had at 7wks. Theyve asked me to contact my doctor in DR and find out what tests and what meds he gave me, and theyve taken new bloods from me to try and determine if i still have it or not! Im hoping i dont, as that would be bad news, but they did say, that in a normal case of toxo the baby would be showing numerous physical signs of distress by this point and would probably not be growing as well as he is. So i have to cling on to that for another week. So its still a waiting game but one positive thing is that if they can rule out the toxo then the doc said i may just fall into an extremely tiny group of women who have this problem with absolutly no explanation. He said that 50% of those go onto to have normal births on their due dates and 50% still have to deliver early, but that in the whole there babies are usually fine. So im hoping thats where im going to be pigeonholed! I find out next week. But while im still anxious about the toxo results i do feel a lot better. Ok so thats my excitement over for another week!  =

Name: MissP | Date: July 16, 2008, 7:11
Answer: On to you girls...JUDI - im so sorry your going through this extra stress. I had a similar problem in my first marriage after my dh refused to even try to have kids and told me point blank he never wanted to have them. We battled on over that issue and others for 3 and a half long stressfull years until it finally ended. Im not saying yours will end that way i just wanted to share that i know how you feel about that, but that things have a way of working themselves out which dosnt become clear til a while after. I agree with the other girls that maybe hes just scared of another loss and it could be that the long spell of ttcing has made him feel a bit depressed too and hes given up a bit. Perhaps its all too much for him. I know current dh after my mc last year felt like he couldnt go through it again, but after a little while he felt more positive. I really really hope things calm down for you. Like shabnam said perhaps the way to go is to just pretend like you agree for a little while or just keep all the temping and ov talk to yourself for a little while and then just see what happens. Then for him it will just be a suprise when you do get a bfp and he might react differently. Im keeping you in my thoughts girl. SMOMM - hope your alright and i know exactly how your feeling with regard to the discomfort, nausea and not sleeping. I seem to have been like that for a while now and its getting worse. and ive got so far to go!! Im just trying to get through every day and not think about how long il have to go without any sleep at night. Have you any tips on how to get comfortable in bed? SHABNAM, you must be so keen to get this last exam so you can take it easy. I hope it goes really well. LEXXY - sorry about that pain, has it eased up any? It could just be that your noticing it more now because your more aware of what to look for, i was like that when i was ttcing after my mc. Before that i never noticed any weird pains and after i noticed everything. LISAMC - im sure you will be fine when you get pg again. Of corse you will be stressed and worried, but a lot of girls here seem to have the third try be the sticky one. Stay positive, that allways helps (and i was miss negative so i know). JSTALEY - i hope your dh manages to do well on his barr! Itll soon be over and then he can get down to business. Yes it does feel nice to have tyler rolling around even though it really hurt when he turned over the other night! The doc said i will feel it more when he does big movements like that because theres no cushioning of fluid in there. Erin - you seem to know a lot about your follicles! How do you get to know this stuff, it fascinates me. I so hope this is your month! Dont get down about the seeming lack of urgency from the medics, i think they are like that with everyone. My poor brother and sil tried for 7 years to get pg, in their mid 20's and had a number of docs do tests to see what was wrong and tried different meds etc. They were just about to go down the ivf route when she fell pregnant unexpectedly and they just had a great big 10lb 9oz little boy 2 weeks ago! They are both just 28. She had a completely problem free pregancy. It just goes to show that these things can take some people longer than others and i really believe that it happens when your not trying sometimes. How frustrating is that though! DECBABY - your welcome here and we all know what your going through. This is the best place to be and it will help you to feel more positive. Feel free to rant about what happened and get it off your chest, we really dont mind and weve all done it before you, so its not a problem. I hope your having a good day today and thanks for thinking of me and Ty. Lilymommy - no signs of af yet? I think mine took 37 days to return after a mc at 12wks. It sometimes depends on how far along you were when you experienced the loss i think. I truley hope it turns up for you today. CYNNABABY - its nice to have you back and when i get a minute im going to check out your website of you and Jazlyns experiences. I think you got the list right and then theres at least another 4 preg ladies on here aswell. Im sure they will all update when they get a minute! Right, i think ive caught everyone, i apologise if i did miss anyone. Have a great weds girls x x =

Name: smmom2 | Date: July 16, 2008, 9:23
Answer: Hump Day !!! YEY. ANother week almost past !!! MISSP....I am SOOOO happy for you and Tyler. And relieved also. I knew he was a strong little guy. SO you may be able to carry to term now...that would be awesome. Or even close to. Maybe you would just be happy making it to 36-37 weeks. SHAB...how are you feeling. You are almost 36 weeks now...so you could deliver any week now !!! WOW !! Carson and I are doing ok ladies....just busy with bdays this weekend ! Have a good day ladies.  =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 16, 2008, 9:51
Answer: you ladies are absolutely awesome. thank you so much for taking the time to write to me. it's been very upsetting and i know that's not good when ttc. ERIN - you're right, it feels very unfair, and i know life wasn't meant to be fair, but i didn't think that meant this. i did go to the dollar tree after work to find a opk, but had no luck. after that i didn't bother going to another store. why do you get a sono to tell if you Oed? i think i'm going to call my ob/gyn to see if she can Rx a progesterone blood test to see if i O-ed... will it be able to tell when i O-ed? LILYMUMMY - i can't believe your dh was like that too. but i am glad there's hope for me that my dh will come around. i think he is. btw, the book sounds interesting, does it talk about successful methods of conceiving? SMMOM - sorry, i thought i did email you. i have just been so out of it. you know, i told dh on sunday that he needs to have more faith in God and that whether we like it or not, God will give us a child when He decides and He might not. i think that had more of an affect on dh than anything else. how is carson doing? i think it's great that you remember everyone's edd and the pg timeline here. LEXXY - are you seroius?! what changed your mind? thanks so much for your prayers. SHABNAM - i think your approach is probably the best... to talk to him w/o fighting or arguing and not to tell him about my O so it's just fun. the thing is that he doesn't like to go in (sorry, tmi) w/o contraception and even then he withdraws. so unless he actively decides to "do it" w/me w/o any contraception, it's tough to get pg even w/o telling him about my O-ing. but i think he may be coming around. when is your exam again? i got so self involved, i don't remember. either way i wish you luck and thanks for your prayers! MISSP - i am so glad tyler is doing so well, God bless. i pray for you and him. it's nice that you can empathize w/me. i am hoping we don't go our separate ways b/c we really do love each other and everything else really just falls into place, God bless. i don't think it's going to come to that b/c i think he is coming around. LISA - thanks again for being the 1st to respond. SARAH, SHANA, JSTALEY and BRYANDI - how are you ladies and where are you? KENDALYN and DECBABY - are you still w/us? i think i have given up on COL, CLAUDS and DESTINY. CYNNABABY - although i joined the group when you were on your way out, i have been looking forward to hearing from you so i am glad you are back!  =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 16, 2008, 9:55
Answer: just a quick update about where dh and i stand right now. this week we are going to try! yay! so we bd-ed on day 13 and day 15 and will continue for every other day until day 22 (i hope). i have been charting my temp, but i don't think that works for me b/c i don't always remember to do it, plus last time i charted, it appeared i didn't O, but a blood test showed that i did. either way, per my charts as of now it seems i may not have O-ed, but who knows. i also basically stand on my head after every time we have done it (nice visual, hunh?) to help the little guys get to their destination a little faster. since i have convinced dh (through the help of God) to ttc this month/week, i am going to do everything i can to conceive. unfortunately, i don't know what will happen if i don't conceive this month so i am just praying, keeping everything crossed and looking forward to baby dust from you all. please continue to pray for me, as i think our collective prayers for each other are being answered. lots of love, thanks and prayers to you all! =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 16, 2008, 12:04
Answer: JUDI: I think alot of what your DH is feeling is normal. He seems like he loves you alot and was there for you to support you through the loss, but he most likely is dealing with his own feelings. My DH kind of retreated from me and we didn't talk about the losses for awhile, I was feeling so alone and did some research on-line and read all these articles about men and miscarriages, it was like the articles were written about my DH and I. I had them read them all and then things were better. He realized I needed the support and ignoring it wont make those feelings go away. Its so important to have that support system, and I tell you this forum has been a lifesaver for me. I am so glad you and DH have decided to ttc this month, trust me chances are as it becomes a reality for him having a child I am sure he will come around, sounds like he already is! Good luck to you. LILLYMUMMY: is that book a fiction or more of like a "manual", I love "Chick Lit" books..... MISSP!!!! Wow - I just let out a huge sigh of relief! I am so happy for you that Tyler is doing so well. You must feel relieved.... He is going to be just fine, they are watching you closely and taking good care of you, so please relax as much as you can. WOOHOOOOOO Thanks for the advice, I think with babies/kids you never ever stop worrying... us with losses just have one more thing to worry about, but you and all the other pregnant girls give me so much hope! So girls, today is CD12, I could O anywhere between yesterday and Saturday, I am having slight cramps today and increased CM so I think today is the day... of course the plan was to bd every other night starting last night, but guess who fell asleep before DH even came to bed? Yep... I was so upset with myself this morning when I woke and realized I missed my chance to BD, I haven't told DH this week is the important time so as not to stress him or take the romance out of it, but if I did we could have started last night... oh well, if I am truly Oing today then today is a great time to start..... I am feeling so positive this month, just like ok this is it... and just knowing I will get my sticky BFP soon. Hopefully the positive attitude will help! Well I hope you all have a great day.... Lexxy, Judi, Erin and Decbaby, this is our month! Love and hugs to all my girls! Lisa =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 16, 2008, 17:18
Answer: LISA - i agree, i think what he feels is normal, but he should not let it get in the way to ttc. these fears that many, if not most, people have do not warrant not having kids at all! so now how come you are guessing you may be ovulating anywhere from cd11 to cd15? are you charting or opk-ing? or just monitoring CM? i don't understand my CM. haha. i am charting, but i suck at it... never get up at the same time and sometimes i forget to temp all together. i called the dr's office to ask if they can do a test in a week to see if i O-ed this month w/the clomid (generic) and the secretary said no. which is not true, i am sure you can check b/c i checked last month! she doesn't know what she is talking about. either way, i am w/you, LISA, trying to be positive about this month and hoping we all get our BFP within the next few weeks! it would be great if we got it w/in a few days of each other! God willing. i pray for healthy babies for all of us! =

Name: smmom2 | Date: July 16, 2008, 21:09
Answer: Hello ladies..... Quick question. I have a friend that has been ttc and having trouble . I suggested to her that she try baby asprin. Those of you that have taken it...can you tell me how often you are supposed to take it. I told her once daily..but am not sure if that is right. Please advise ladies !!!! LISA, ERIN AND JUDI.....YEY !!!!! TTC week !!!!! I am praying for you ladies and showering you with baby dust !!!!!! This could be it. And to funny about falling asleep and standing on your heads !!! HAHAHHA. I remember going through all that. DD got her big bed today!! She is loving it !!! I hope she stays in it!!! Time to go see !!!  =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 17, 2008, 9:06
Answer: pretty quiet yesterday. is that what happens when you get pg? you forget about your ttc friends?! kidding. well, i my bd days were cd 13 and cd 15 and again tonight, which is cd 17 (my cycle is in sync w/the month of july). i wish there was a way to know super early whether there was successful conception to put us at ease. my temps are still low, so not sure if i O-ed, but last month my temps were also low but a blood test showed that i did O. weird. the low temps could be a result of how terrible i am w/temping. anyhow... please keep praying for us ttc girls! SMMOM - yaay on dd's big girl bed! what kind of sheets is she getting? characters, floral or solids? i didn't and don't take baby aspirin so i can't help you there. everyone else where are you?! =

Name: Lexxy | Date: July 17, 2008, 10:49
Answer: Hello ladies - almost Friday!! How is everyone doing? Cycle Buddies - what's going on this week? DH and I have been BD every other day...but right now I feel like my cycle is messed. I am supposed to be 16 days into my second post D&C cycle, which would normally have been the time I ovulate, but I am feeling crazy bloating in my belly like I get a week before AF. If we were successful with the BD there is no way I would feel anything right now, unless my cycle is totally messed and I o'd 2 weeks ago. ARGH, I am lost - my temps dipped the last 2 days, and are now back up - indicating ovulation?? This is like rocket science!! How is everyone else doing? Preggy ladies, cycle buddies...check in please, I am bored at work!! =

Name: Lexxy | Date: July 17, 2008, 10:54
Answer: JUDI - how are you tracking your temps? Are you using something like Fertility Friend? I am, but it's driving me nuts cause I am pretty good about the time I take my temp, but my chart is all over the map! Plus, cause it's my first cycle on it since the D&C it isn't showing me any history or predicting ovulation. This sucks! Plus the ovulation predictor stick things NEVER show that I am ovulating...I am always searching the net for "earliest preg signs possible"....not much help :) =

Name: jstaley1228 | Date: July 17, 2008, 11:34
Answer: Morning, girls! So much ttc going on my fingers and toes and just cramped to the hilt from being crossed. I think my arms are sore to from flinging baby dust! I’m keeping all you girlies in mind, Lexxy, Lisa, Judi (is dh being better?), Erin. I can’t wait for some BFP’s in the coming weeks. Yay! Shelly, how is dd liking her new bed? How are you feeling? Handling the heat okay? How about you Shab? You are getting so dang close. I’ll bet you just can’t wait to see Shireen. MissP you have had some fantastic news and I am so happy for you! Keep hanging in there! Bryandi, Shana how is week 18 treating you ladies? I’m okay. Still sick. Can you believe it? I was kind of down about the whole thing yesterday. I just feel so bad being sick ALL the time. I feel badly for the people around me. I hope it ends soon. Well, I just wanted to check in but I’m slammed this morning so I’ll chat more later! Have a great Thursday girlies. =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 17, 2008, 11:36
Answer: JUDI: You sound so much better today, that makes me happy! I am estimating my O time based on all the other months I charted, plus my cramps and CM confirm the timing for me. I temped for about a year and always O'd in the same timeframe, so I have an idea when its happening, lets hope I am right! If I don't get my BFP this month I will temp again to be sure. But I think it was yesterday based on how I felt and the CM. I feel very positive about this month, that would be awesome if we all were due around the same time... I hope it happens! SMMOM: I took one 81mg baby aspirin a day.. that is what my dr. said to do. I remember the switch to a big bed with my DS, he was so excited about it that he transisitioned beautifully. I am lucky my son is so easy, I could put that child anywhere and he would go along with it, he never gives me a hard time about anything. My mom jokes that if I have another he/she will probably be out of control. I hope not! I am used to the easygoing kind of kid! So today is CD13 for me, I used the pre-seed last night, but another Lisa moment, We did the deed last night and afterwards I was thinking, I forgot the pre-seed, so I used it after. Not the way your supposed to use it but I figured it couldn't hurt? Who knows, I am screwed for sure when I am older because at 31 I am already losing my mind! Where is everyone?  =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 17, 2008, 14:10
Answer: yaay, some of you wrote in. good to hear from you all. LEXXY - it's so funny how we talk about bd-ing , i don't think i ever thought i'd be telling people what days i was doing the deed. haha. anyhow... last month i charted on a paper graph. i was better then than i am now and my temps were all over the place like yours, but a blood test said i O-ed, maybe it's the same w/you. this month i didn't chart all of af time, was i supposed to? i did put myself on fertility friend, but it doesn't help at all since i have only half-ass charted the last week. i don't know what's going on, but i am praying!!! JSTALEY - dh is much better and he said this month we'll try, he's not too sure about next month. so i am praying i get my bfp this month, God willing, instead of going through it all again next time. sorry about your sickness. hopefully it will get better. honestly, even though i hate being sick, i would so love to be 18 weeks right now w/that problem. it's better than the issues i am going through now. LISA - you're too funny pre-seeding afterwards. i wanted preseed but they don't sell it near me and by the time i decided to buy it, it would take forever if i ordered it online. i told dh to get it from the city, near where he works and his excuse is that he has been rushing to get to work and hasn't had the time. so we used astroglide last couple of times, but i read that it inhibits motility!!! fortunately, as i have mentioned before, i have basically been standing on my head after each time we do it to help the little guys out a bit. well... gonna get working... other ladies need to chime in! =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 17, 2008, 14:38
Answer: JUDI: Are we the only ones on here? ha ha ha - I miss the other girls... come back! Judi and I miss you! Your so right on your comment to Lexxy, I can't believe some of the things I talk about with you girls. I am such a private person and don't share much with many people. Esp my sex life! I never talk about that with anyone, but here I am telling you girls when I do it, how I do it and how often.. crazy!!! I was really writing because I wanted to ask you if you have tried fertilityfriend.com? Its free and it keeps track of your temps and tells you when it thinks you O'd. I wouldn't be able to do it anyother way. Its so easy! Good luck girl... keep up that bding!!!! =

Name: jstaley1228 | Date: July 17, 2008, 15:30
Answer: When I got really desperate the last month I was ttc, I was using my fertility monitor, taking B6, baby aspirin AND I used pre-seed (I got a free sample with my monitor that I used) when my monitor told me I was ovulating. Who knows if all of that or the combo or one or none of that worked? It sure seems like a lot of stuff when the first time I got pregnant I was on good ole’ fashioned red wine and that was it! Judi that is funny about standing on your head. I would prop our Wedge (a nifty little sex pillow I got DH, or me since it totally helps with cramping…tmi?...while doing the deed, but I got it for his birthday a few years ago) under my bum and just lie totally still for at least 30 minutes! Honestly, I hated it…it was gooey but anything to help the little swimmers. I never temped cause the month I tried I just couldn’t see the trend and the cm thing never worked for me either. I HATED OPK’s. The just about drove me insane. Guess the only thing that worked for me was that monitor. Judi, I’m sorry I whined. I know being 18 weeks is much better than the stress of ttc and sometimes I just forget that and how hard it was so please accept my apologies. I am so gonna stop whining about this wonderful blessing, I promise.  =

Name: Erin_thenurse | Date: July 17, 2008, 15:58
Answer: Ladies, sorry I am not coming around as much as I did. I am still trying to keep up with you girl. I just get obscessed each month and totall stress myself out and I'm tring not to this month and just not think about it. Today is cd15 for me and no big o just yet but soon on cd17. We are bding every other day this time and still taking aspirin 81mg, guafenesin 200mg three times a day, prenatal vitamins and using preseed. I am wishing all my girls the best of luck and hope that we all ovulate this week and then on to the 2ww! UGGHHH, I hate the 2ww. That is when I turn into a psycho, stress out person. I am trying not to this month. I'm glad that Tyler is still doing well and everyone else seems to be good. Miss you girls. =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 17, 2008, 16:50
Answer: LISA - i think you're right... we are ruling this thread right now, haha. i don't mind, but i hope the girls chime in. i get concerned when they don't. to answer your question - i just signed onto fertilityfriend.com yesterday. but b/c i don't really chart properly (1st my temps all over, 2nd i don't always chart first thing in the morning and sometiems i forget and sometimes i just don't get enough sleep as reqd for bbt), the website can't help me predict ovulation :( either way, i am just going to continue bd-ing every other day until cd22. how about you? JSTALEY - please girl, you don't need to aplogize. i was just saying that i'll take on being sick any day if it means i am pg w/a healthy baby. so whine all you want, that's what we are here for. to b*tch and moan to each other about everything from m/c, to waiting for af, to ttc, to 2ww, to pg, to m/s and to birth! btw, a sex pillow? interesting. yeah... after i keep my bottom half in the air for 20 to 30 min, i put some pillows under me to keep me slightly elevated. unfortunately, both times i leaked out a bit when i got up (tmi?). 1st time i was up for like an hour and i still leaked a little. the 2nd time i was up for like 30 min or so and leaked a bit then too. i wish the swimmers would stay in and go where they belong to fertilize my egg! ERIN - i can understand how you feel. you have been ttc for so long, it's really frustrating. i mean this is my 1st time ttc after the m/c and i am going nuts trying to figure when i O or how to keep the swimmers in or when is the earliest i can test. last time i got pg was dh and me having fun. this time, sadly, it's a bit like a chore. timed intercourse... not very spontaneous. oh well, once we have our babies, we'll all be fine. i am praying ladies... for all of us.  =

Name: jstaley1228 | Date: July 17, 2008, 17:36
Answer: Judi, thanks for letting me complain, but I WILL keep it to a minimum. My ttc journey was totally the same. The first time around was just luck! As I know now...the whole damn thing is a lot more complicated. I miss the innocence of it the first time. After the m/c it was an obsession and that did kind of ruin it for me and dh. I do feel bad about it but there was just nothing I wanted more in the whole world that a little baby. Just try to go all you can to keep it fun, it certainly isn't going to be every night. I remember one night, after the deed, we both looked at each other and were like..."that was like a business meeting...totally un-fun". That was a low point for us in the ttc game and just made us realize what a gift getting pregnant really is! I hear ya on the leaking out. I hate that! Stay by the fertile eggies, darn it! After we finished I would prop my Wedge under me and not get up again. I had to make sure all my “getting ready for bed” stuff was done. I don’t envy you girls the 2 ww. Erin, I would go CRAZY too during that time. I swear every little gas bubble or hicc-up or zit or what have you was a symptom to me and I would drive myself insane. I’ll been praying like crazy for all of you. It’s totally time for our thread so I’m feelin’ good about all this. Keep up the bding ladies and I’m cheering you all on! Imagine me there with pom-poms spelling out your names and cheering and…wait, no. That’s gross and WEIRD. Anyway, I’m thinking of you all. =

Name: cynnababy | Date: July 17, 2008, 17:55
Answer: OK, i only have a minute before I get off work. I sort of just skimmed through the posts. I saw something about Preseed, if you can't get it, i heard it from my other thread that using extra virgin Olive oil is as good. It's all natural, it's cheap (not that cheap), and it readily avaiable in your kitchen! Try it! She swear by it! It got her pg!! Smmom, baby aspirin is once a day, 81mg chewable tablet. It help thin out blood to get blood flow to the womb. TTCing is very stressful, and can get on everyone's nerve! It's very important that both DH and you are on board, and try to make it fun. MissP, is tyler behaving today? Low fluid is scary, i had that towards the end of my pg, and need to get induce because it was at 3. What's your level now? =

Name: smmom2 | Date: July 17, 2008, 20:46
Answer: Hello ladies....Judi...sorry i can not check in until evening when dh gets home with the laptop..which is our only computer. I am glad DH is all on board now...I am praying this is your month...for many reasons !!! Lexxy...I never temped or charted...so I can not help you ladies with that.... but I did do the bd every other day starting from cd 11 or so and onto like cd 17 or something like that. Bding everyday for a few days around cd 14-16. And I also did the pillow thing girls...although I didnt have a wedge...LOL JILL !!! I totally rememeber that conversation about the wedge !! HAHAH. ERIN....as you can see it is hard for us all not to obsess....but that is why we all have this forum. CYNN...thanks for the info...I did find it on the web...and it for a friend of mine.. I am almost 34 weeks pg with my little man !!! Thank goodness I am almost done !!! i went today and bought Carson and dd some clothes. Since it is youngest dds bday...she got some clothes..oldest dd will have to wait a couple weeks since she gets school clothes !!! ANyways...It was so much fun buying baby boy clothes !!!! I LOVED IT....buying blue little man stuff !!!! And dd slept awesome in her bed for the whole night and nap time. And is trying to tell me she wants to go to bed an hour early !!! She loves her bed !!! I am so glad. ANd she is starting to do better with the potty training !!! YEY !! Anyways...Carson is giving me alot of bh tonight and I am going to go rest...hope you all have a good friday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Check in this weekend ladies ok !!! =

Name: lilymummy | Date: July 18, 2008, 7:09
Answer: hey guys, not much to say from me....still waiting for SOMETHING to happen to show my body is back on track after the d and c....I don't know whether I should test for pg or what....I might wait until this time next week and test. Last time it took 43 days for AF to appear, but last time I bled quite heavily....this time I literally had 3 days of browning shpooting and that's it. I hope they didn't hoover too much uterine lining away...has anyone ever heard of that? How long did it take you all to get AF after your miscarriage/d and c? I read the other day of someone who took 8MONTHS.....and then it on;y came because her docotr gave her something to make AF come. Oh Lord! I wish I could just know what was going on with my own body, so I could think about ttc! I guess things will happen in their own sweet time, but I am about fed up with these mysterious ways.  =

Name: lilymummy | Date: July 18, 2008, 7:11
Answer: sorry to whinge but I'm sick of this......as if miscarriage wasn't bad enough, the ridiculous waiting around afterwards when all you want to be doing is pg again is adding insult to injury. I know you guys all understand! =

Name: Lexxy | Date: July 18, 2008, 9:13
Answer: LILYMUMMY - It took me 55 days to get my AF after the D&C - I bled heavily for a week, period like bleeding for 2 more, then spotted for 2 weeks or so. I never thought it was going to end....and then I went for my follow up at 7 weeks and the doc said I looked like AF was coming soon. It did 4 days later, but she said if in another month (so 12 weeks post D&C) I didn't get it, I had to come back and get something to bring it on. Everyone is different, but I don't think you are at a point where it should be checked out...just be patient and it will come - it would sure be nice to know when though right?? !! Stay positive. =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 18, 2008, 9:58
Answer: SMMOM - thanks for checking in. now that i know you don't have the laptop until the evening, i won't worry if i don't hear from you all day. glad to hear dd loves her bed! she must feel like such a big girl. LILYMUMMY - you sound like me in feb. when i had my m/c and d&e. my loss was discovered at my 17 week appt and i had a d&e the following day. it took about 54 days for AF to come but that was after i got drugs to induce it. i was told to wait 2 cycles before ttc again which felt like forever. the next AF came about 40ish days later, also brought on by the drugs. then i had a hysterosonogram where the insert saline into my uterus and take sono pictures. that discovered an adhesion in my uterus and i had to go for a hysterosalpinogram (HSG) where they insert dye into my uterus and take x-rays to see if i need a hysteroscopy to clean the adhesion. i had to bring on another AF w/drugs b/c the HSG is done right at the end of AF. all this was going on while they were taking lots of blood and at one point thought i may have lupus. then they said, i don't have lupus but i have certain very high anti-bodies. i have seen about 7 drs including my pcp and ob/gyn since feb. and they aren't quite sure what happened. all i know is that i will be high risk once i get pg again (hopefully soon, God willing). as of now, the HSG was last week when they said they didn't see the adhesion so i asked the dr for drugs to help me O and have decided to try this month, specifically, this week, as you have read. so from feb. to july was my journey from m/c to ttc again. i absolutely and completely understand how you feel. try to urge your dr to give you provera or a generic to get you to AF. i couldn't wait to get back to ttc. now i am finally here, thank God and just can't wait to get pg again w/my other beautiful ttc ladies here (that's a shout out to LEXXY, LISA and ERIN!). LISA, LEXXY and ERIN - how is the bd-ing going? LISA - miss any more days and/or preseed or are we on track again? LEXXY - when did you bd last and when's the next time? ERIN - are you feeling any better? i am a little excited that i won't be in the 2ww alone, i just hope the outcome is bfp for all of us! God willing! BRYANDI, SHANA, MISSP, SARAH, JSTALEY, SHABNAM, DECBABY, KENDALYN, DESTINY, MISSHATH, CYNNABABY, COL, CLAUDS and anyone else i missed - shout out to you all and hoping to hear your status soon!  =

Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 18, 2008, 10:45
Answer: ok, so b/c w/my pg i had started my 5th month, i was already registering. my registry is still up and i still really like what i registered for, but i need to stop looking at it. i am setting myself up for total devastation in case i don't get pg this cycle, God forbid. please keep praying, i certainly am! =

Name: lisamc | Date: July 18, 2008, 11:01
Answer: WOO HOOOOO Happy Friday to you all!!! JUDI: I am currently on CD14 and have most likely Oed by now. I guess its on to the TWW!! I know what you mean about it not being as fun when you are trying for so long... that is why I haven't really told DH much about when or anything, he just thinks the Mrs. is a bit frisky this week! Question... do you (or anyone else in our ttc group), act like your already pregnant for the tww just in case you are? I mean avoiding alcohol and being careful what you put in your body? I used to do that every month but after all this time and talking with my dr. she said to relax and live my life and not let it take over because if I am already making sacrifices (and really what wouldn't we sacrifice for our babies?) and I don't get preg that month it just adds to the resentment. So I am not a big drinker or smoker anyway, I try to be good, but a drink or two isn't out of the question for me during this time. Ok so now just have to relax and wait and see... and of course analyze every single twinge and wave I get!! SMMOM: 34 weeks girl? that is crazy... i am so excited for you.... i can't wait to be there myself. I have never been 34 weeks, like I told you all my DS was 30 weeks and that is the only living child I have, so I don't really know what the 3rd trimester is like... how great DD loves her new bed! Makes your life much easier thats for sure. LILLYMUMMY: Sorry your body is taking so long to get back on track. For both of my D&C's I got AF exactly 28 days... weird isn't it? I mean I am never textbook with anything and yet my body fell right back into the 28 day cycle which isn't common at all... I hope AF (or BFP) shows for you soon. You know you could be pregnant, you never know...... The waiting is a pain, its like our bodies aren't communicating with our minds! And you whine all you want... that is why we are here. Yes JUDI: I am back on track with the bd and preseed! God I hope this is the month, I want it so badly, I wasn't so sure I even wanted to try again after my 2nd loss but I tell you I totally am ready, I just know its going to work next time. well girls, the weekend is just about here! I can't wait to sleep! Its supposed to be in the mid 90's tomorrow so I am taking DS and DH and heading to my parents pool for the day..... nothing like playing in the pool with my DS, that kid is more fun to hang out with than any adults that i know! LOVE, LISA =

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Name: Judi Sarah | Date: July 18, 2008, 11:18