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**Progesterone Posse Pt 4 - the Sparkly edition**
Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 2nd, 2008 9:57 PM
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This is a thread for people with defects lol (just kidding, it's a thread for supercool 'n' sexy chics)! Hey gals, new thread, new hope!

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Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 2nd, 2008 11:15 PM
Hey girlies!!! I'm testing tomorrow morning depending on what my temp does. I'm 14dpo with no spotting, sore boobs and actual creamy cm. sorry for the tmi, but i'm usually dry dry dry!! or spotting. Boobs are not as sore as they were before and I feel like it comes and goes. I can't tell if I feel sick b/c I am totally constipated...this post will be the "Kelly overshare addition" k lmao Heidi, glad you had a good Canada Day...sounds like lots of fun and nice to spend time with dh and friends b/c I think you needed it. Congrats on the run....good for you!!! It'll keep you busy, keep you in shape and help with feeling better about things I think...keeping your mind occupied on something other then ttc. I feel like it's all I think about sometimes. Naomi, OMG...it's really happening!! Booked your flights and ready to go!! $700 isn't that bad b/c I think it's around $500 here but that doesn't include the meds...I'm soooo praying this is your month....for both of you....and since I'm praying, my bfp tomorrow morning lol I stopped into the drugstore on my way home from work and spend 20 bucks on 2 tests!!#! I don't want any possible fake bfp so I bought the most expensive one they had lol Girls, I can honestly say I have never been 14dpo in the 15 months we have been ttc...I can't even believe it....just wish my chart was a lil better....we'll see what happens.....wish me luck. (sorry this post was all about me lol....promise it'll be someone else's day tomorrow lmao) ni night lovely girls.....sticky, sparkly, shiny baby dust to us all and to all a good night .....Kelly 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 2nd, 2008 11:22 PM
LOL, given your chart, I think we can forgive you for talking about yourself ;-) I'm torn between being really excited for you and being scared that you'll be disappointed if the damn witch shows (I'm casting lots of spells to keep her away though!). I think it's worse being in someone else's 2ww than being in my own lol! Glad you got the tests and good quality ones too. Can't wait for tomorrow. Masses of the sparkly stuff being express courriered your way girlie x 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 3rd, 2008 10:43 AM
Hi there. So, Kelly - just think...worst case scenario - you went 14 days without spotting - that is SUCH a victory!!!!! You should be extremely happy with this alone!!! Nonetheless, you do have both Naomi and I on the edge of our seats waiting to hear whether the best case scenario is happening instead...so, please post post post!!!!! We will be here to support you either way! Naomi - glad to hear that you have bought your tickets! As you said, even if you guys don't end up going through with the IUI, you will have a nice romantic trip at the very least! Not much is new with me. Dh and I had a nice relaxing evening again last night including a very long walk with a friend of ours. We didn't get to bed until quite late though so I am hoping that we both have enough energy tonight to get it on (we are waiting three days in between times this cycle just to try something new...) Oh, the only other thing is that I had always worried that I would have similar fertility issues to my aunt (who had major problems getting pregnant and carrying to term)...but I just got an e-mail from her outlining what her diagnosed issues were and thankfully, I don't have what she had so I am a lot more relaxed now! Loads of babydust to you both! 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 3rd, 2008 9:30 PM
Hey girls. Kelly stop torturing us. Has the witch stayed away? Did you test????? Where is that woman? Heidi, you'll just have to drive over there and find her lol. Glad you don't have the same fertility issues as your aunt. Bet that's a weight off. There's nothing in my family that points to any fertility issues. My mum had 5 of us and my sister got pregnant at 23 and that was with the morning after pill (she terminated though). So whatever we have, it's not hereditary! I had such a stupid anxiety attack in the middle of the night last night about work - it was so bad I had to take a valium to calm down. I hate that. After the valium I had completely insane dreams. I'm still laughing about them. I also temped this morning and it was stupidly high so no point charting til I finish the Clomid. FF will have a breakdown if I present it with that as a pre-o temp! I think Sunday or Monday will be the earliest I'll get a normal temperature. Ok ladies, better start my day's work....babydust xx 

Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 3rd, 2008 11:23 PM
Hey girls...just a quick note.....temp went down quite a bit today and started stopping at work today...I' be lying if I said I was a lil sad so I'm allowing myself 24 hours to be sad about it....i promise I'll be back and chipper as ever...but for today....I'm not myself...I'll be thinking about you girls....thanks for always being there...it certainly makes things so much easier.....i'll check in soon.  

Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 3rd, 2008 11:24 PM
spottinig....sorry 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 3rd, 2008 11:48 PM
Sorry sweetie. I'm sad for you too. We'll be here for you when you feel up to it. Thinking of you. 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 4th, 2008 9:54 AM
Hey Kelly...sorry that AF is coming!!!!! That has got to suck! On the bright side, almost 15 full days without spotting is quite impressive, not that you are thinking about that right now. We are here if you need 'our shoulders' to cry on! Naomi - I keep meaning to get a few pre-ov temps in myself but I just don't seem to remember in the middle of the night when I wake up to grab the thermometer. I must say though that I am sleeping better for not temping! I really don't know if I am going to temp or do this cycle on just the ov strips...I usually ov about three days after the first positive so I may just base my month on that this time. Despite not temping, I am exhausted this morning. My dh had work to do last night and didn't come to bed until after 11 p.m. - and then we had to get it on...and then he had to get up for work at 6 a.m. today! I can barely keep my eyes open! Thus, I am using the Internet to send the baby dust to you girls this morning - too tired to blow it your way on my own! 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 5th, 2008 8:23 AM
Hey gurls. Kelly hope you're doing ok and finding the strength to regroup and join us. Heidi, yay for you, almost o-time! I totally hear you about sleeping better without the temps. Knowing I have to get 3 hours sleep before I temp makes me anxious and then I keep waking up too early and having to lie there staring at the ceiling til I can stick the thermometer in my mouth! It is however, sadly rather compulsive. Even dh is addicted to my temps! But I've decided that if the IUI doesn't work or doesn't happen, I'm not temping for the next cycle AND I'm not temping in this 2ww either. LOL, let's see how long that resolution lasts! Anyways, hope you're both having a good weekend. We're having some friends around to watch a movie and eat some great Lao food. Talk later but til then catch the dust, girlies, cos it's acoming your way! 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 6th, 2008 10:00 PM
Morning! Where is everybody?! Just wanted to tell you guys my good news...looks like our insurance will cover the IUI treatment! They won't cover IVF but I really don't believe we'd need that anyway. I'm soooo relieved. With the travel and accommodation in Bangkok, it was looking to be really expensive if it takes a few go's. So now I'm getting really excited! Even if nothing happens this month, I'm feeling a lot better knowing we're covered. Anyways, hope you all had a nice weekend. I've finished the Clomid so started temping this morning (and bd'ing!). This week is just 3 days for me cos I'm off to Bangkok on Thursday morning!! Babydust to you both (and throwing a bit over myself too lol) x 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 7th, 2008 9:55 AM
Morning ladies - sorry for being MIA for the past few days...I was super busy this weekend! So the good news for me is that I got a VERY positive OPK on Saturday night (CD16) - which is on the early side for me! We didn't get a chance to get it on until yesterday though but in a way I am ok with that since I usually don't actually ov until two days after my positive...this way the sperm will hopefully still be quite active when the egg joins them! My dh works overnight tonight so just to be on the safe side, I am really considering running home over my lunch hour for a quickie, lol! I am waiting until my dh wakes up and calls me to finalize the plans for our rendesvous (which he doesn't know yet is going to take place) - ha! Naomi - that's so great that your insurance will cover the IUI!!!!!! I haven't looked into things here yet to see if our healthcare system (or my insurance) covers it, but I am really hoping one way or another it is covered! Did you check with the hospital in Bangkok re how long your dh is supposed to refrain from you know what? I thought I read somewhere that men shouldn't do anything for something like 24 to 48 hours in advance of the procedure...Kelly - where are you??? How are you doing??? We are here if you need us!!! Anyways, loads and loads of babydust (slightly wet - it's pouring here!) coming your ways! I'll write later to let you know if I do in fact run home! 8) 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 7th, 2008 5:28 PM
just an update - tmi, but I did run home over lunch for a quickie - ha ha! Here's hoping it was worth it!!! 

Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 7th, 2008 8:21 PM
Ladies....I'm sorry I haven't been around and I'm sorry Naomi that I wasn't here to share in your wonderful news. To be honest, it was b/c of you both that I came back here. I am so bummed....I was trying to be so positive and that got me nowhere....I'm not going to rain on anyone's parade...I want to share in the good news of my girlies that totally get how I'm feeling right now....Naomi, OMG...what GREAT news about the coverage!! How fantastic is that!!!!! and you leave on Thursday?? do you know when they are going to do it?? Dh must be so excited!! Heidi, congrats on the postive opk!! and it's never tmi on this thread lol good job on the quickie at lunch!! I wish we could do it at lunch lol girls...I promise I'll try and check in tonight. I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about you and praying for you both very much....I gotta get my head on straight though....sparkly baby dust to you both!!! Kel 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 7th, 2008 10:11 PM
Hey Kel, don't worry, we know it's hard to be upbeat sometimes. Besides, you're so cheerful most of the time, you've earned a few not-so-cheerful points. We DO know what you're going through. If we were charting moods instead of temperatures, we'd all have a big dip during af! Heidi, LMAO at your lunchtime rendezvous! I guess that's you covered then. I had a look at your chart but obviously not much going on cos you're not temping. But great that you o'd a bit earlier this month - maybe that's down to the acupuncture. I had an email from the Dr this morning telling us to abstain for 5-7 days!!!! Good thing we didn't bd this morning! We did yesterday but I guess that will be ok. Dr also says he'll do the IUI on Clomid as long as I've got good follicles. So I've got an u/s on Thursday and I'm hoping and praying my ovaries don't jump the gun lol. If I ovulate too early I swear I will go crazy! DH doesn't come down until Thursday evening so the earliest we can do the IUI is Friday. Any tips on how to delay ovulation!!? Ok, got to go - babydust ladies x 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 8th, 2008 1:32 PM
Hey Kelly...sorry that you are feeling so down. Trust me, I was an absolute WRECK at the start of this cycle!!! I really did cry myself to sleep for three nights in a row - not to mention the crying sprees in the bathroom at work and at home on my couch...Naomi and I are here for you!!!! Naomi, 5 to 7 days - wow! I know what you mean about worrying about ovulating too soon - that was me last month when my dh was out of town...it's crazy, most cycles we want to ov as early as possible! Will you have Internet access while you are in Bangkok? You'll have to fill us in on the IUI procedure! As for me, it's so weird not knowing exactly when I ov'd...I am 99% certain that I did, so I am not worried about that but still, it's just plain weird not knowing for sure when...I did do an override on ff and made yesterday my ov day just to give me some sort of frame of reference. And now, the tww. Ugh!!!! As for a reason why I ov'd so 'early' - if you can call day 18 early for anyone but me - I think it must be a combo of the acupuncture and the fact that my boss is on vacation and our office is quiet! Oh, and I have started to exercise a bit more so that might be helping too (at least my stress level!). Anyways, lots of twinkling sparkly raindrop covered babydust to us all! 

Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 9th, 2008 7:02 PM
Hey ladies!! I couldn't post last night b/c we didn't have power. What a terrible storm last night. OMG girlies!!! how exciting!! Heidi in the tww...hope it goes by sooo fast!! Naomi, you could soooo be preggo soon...just don't O lol!! I could really use some good news so I hope you girls get your BFP's soon!! I just wanted to let you girls know that after careful consideration, I'm not ttc right now. No more prometrium, no meds no nothing. I'm taking some time off. It's just gotten to hard on my not only emotionally but my body is tired all the time. I hope it's ok if I still chat on here...I still have the defect lmao Girls, as much as I would love to be pregnant with you I need a break. It may only be a cycle and I'm hoping that staying and chatting with you girls will make me want to start up again. I think DH is pretty upset but he understands. so you girls think I'm nuts? I'm praying and hoping that you both catch the egg this month and give me some inspiration!! I don't know what I'd do without you ladies!!! I'll check in later k....LOADS and LOADS of the sparkly stuff!
Kel 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 10th, 2008 10:44 AM
Morning gals. Kelly - I totally get your wanting to take a month (or more) off - I came close to throwing in the towel for a bit myself at the end of last cycle. This whole ttc thing is really highly overrated and extremely stressful. Enjoy your summer and 'recover' from the process! As for continuing to chat with us - absolutely we'd want you to keep posting here! If it becomes too difficult for you, though, we'll understand! Naomi - I guess you are already in Bangkok. Good luck!!!!! Please tell us what the process is like (with all the gorry details) when you get back! As for me, not much is new. I took my temp yesterday morning just to make sure that it was elevated, and it was...to the point where I am less sure about which day exactly I may have ovulated...I assumed I'd ov on Monday (two days after my pos opk) but now I think I may have ov'd on Sunday (which would mean that the spermies would have had to survive for 3 days to work...) Oh well, I am not going to temp again for the rest of the cycle and we'll see what happens. Blowing sparkly baby dust to you both! 

Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 10th, 2008 10:31 PM
Hey Heidi, thanks for understanding...I can't believe that Naomi will be getting her IUI....it all happened so fast and I'm so excited for her. I understand not wanting to temp...it feels almost weird to wake up and not worry about it...it has been a part of my life for the last 11 months...weird. Hopefully dh's spermies are the super strong ones that will last and you'll catch the egg...I'll be watching!! lol I'll check in tomorrow k....big time baby dust to you both. 

Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 11th, 2008 10:13 PM
Hey girlies...well I finally got up the courage and updated my chart. I couldn't bring myself to do it b/c then it would official (lol like a/f coming wasn't official enough) onto happy stuff!!! Naomi, I know you're busy but I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about you and praying big time for you!!! Heidi, any feelings that we should know about?? I soooo hope that this is your month as well. I need to see a BFP!!! talk soon girlies...loads of the sparkly stuff!! Kel 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 12th, 2008 1:47 PM
Hey there ladies. Nothing much new on my end. I am somewhere between 5 to 7 days past ov and not really feeling anything that I haven't felt in previous cycles. On the one hand, it was really nice (and stress free) to not temp pre ov...on the other it is quite annoying to not know now exactly how many days past ov I really am. I am not sure what I will do next cycle. Oh, plus, ff decided that this would be the month that it would give me free VIP access - what a waste! Though the VIP access has indicated that my luteal phase varies too much to be within normal range - so now that is worrying me too. My appointment with the gyn who will be doing the lap is on Monday though so I will bring it up with him and see what he says. My dh is coming with me to the appointment which is nice too...anyways, I gotta run. Loads of babydust! 

Name: jaciharper | Date: Jul 12th, 2008 9:50 PM
Hey ladies, i am currently on progesterone 200mg and 9 DPO my boobs are hurting really bad and seems to be getting worse. Have yall had this to happen? I need some help I am going crazy. 

Name: kellywall | Date: Jul 12th, 2008 11:03 PM
Hey Ladies!!! Heidi, that sucks that FF gave it to you lol bu t that is the way life is I guess lol Are you still doing the accupunture? I know what you mean about not temping....it's hard huh although I love being able to sleep past 7am on my days off lol I would even set my alarm on my days off to get an accurate temp...still feels weird. What did ff say about your LP? Jaciharper...welcome to our li lthread. The first month that I took prometrium ( i took 100mg) I was convinced that I was pregnant. Thank God I had these girls to talk me down (looks at Heidi and Naomi) I had really sore boobs, upset stomach and feeling very tired. Prometrium mimicks symptons of pregnancy and pms...sucks to be us lol but you're welcome to stay and chat with us!! Our other friend Naomi is currently getting her very first (and only I pray) IUI. is this your first month on the progesterone? I have found that in the last 3 months it has really helped my cycle. Actually Heidi, I kinda wanted your opinion....DH and I were talking and although we're not actively ttc this month, since it took 3 months for my cycle to be semi-normal for me, do you think I should still take it? Thoughts would be appreciated....honest ones. My drug plan covers it so it's not biggie but it does make me pretty tired...I'm kinda torn. Well ladies...I gotta get to bed...loads to do tomorrow....baby dust to both...I miss Naomi!! We finally get Heidi back and Naomi leaves ..I'm starting to get a complex lmao...talk tomorrow ladies...sparkly baby dust to all... Kel 

Name: jaciharper | Date: Jul 13th, 2008 2:17 PM
No this is not the first month being on it. i had a miscarriage on the 18th of June . My doctor told me I could start trying right away. I ovulated two weeks after and here I am going crazy over symptoms. I just dont remember my boobs hurting this much last month and they seemed to be getting worse. Today is my birthday and I test and got a BFN and I m pretty down, thats all I want this year. I am probally between 9 and 10 DPO tho so Im not out yet. 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 13th, 2008 8:13 PM
Kelly - if you can handle the side effects of the progesterone, I'd continue taking it if it is helping regulate your cycles...Jaci - welcome! And more importantly, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I am not taking progesterone (at least not yet) so I can't help you with figuring things out re side effects vs pregnancy symptoms. You likely tested too early though so I wouldn't count yourself out this cycle just yet. As for me, well it is official - my body totally and completely hates me and is trying to drive me utterly insane! I am between 6 to 8 days past ov (I did the OPK strip, Jaci, but not the temping this cycle). Anyways, out of nowhere this afternoon, I got violently ill...like, literally out of nowhere. Diarrhea and vomiting and I NEVER vomit - NEVER! I got really excited for a minute or two and then realise - 1) you never hear women say that morning sickness included diarrhea and 2) it is much too early to really be morning sickness...nonetheless, it got me excited. Now, I am extra let down...it's like my body realised that I'd no longer get fooled by just the sore boobs and cramping so it came up with the vomiting just to keep toying with me. ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!! At some point I am just going to snap - though I came close earlier today...I wish there was a magic test that right after ov you could just take it to know if you succeeded or not...Ladies, if it meant that I was pregnant, I'd gladly puke my guts out...but I hate puking and to not be pregnant and puke and be teased in the process, well that just sucks! Anyways, I snuck into my in-laws' office to use their computer (I am over for 'dinner' though I really just watched everyone else eating)...I will write more tomorrow! Loads of babydust!!!! 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 13th, 2008 10:03 PM
Hey girls, I'm BACK!!! Wow, I missed you two - total cyber dependency!! I really wanted to give you a day by day of my time in Bangkok while I was there but there was just too much going on. So Kelly, you've decided to take a break? I think it's a good idea, even if it's just a cycle or two to get your head, heart and body straightened out. TTC is so stressful, I really think it takes a lot out of us every month. I was thinking about your progesterone (yes by the way I think you should keep taking it while you're on a break)....maybe you could reduce the dose a bit so the s/e aren't so awful for you. You're on quite a high dose - maybe it doesn't need to be so high for you. I mean mine is just 20mg per day and it's working miracles for me. Anyways, just a thought. Heidi, LMAO, only a woman ttc would be happy about puking her brains out! Holy crap, we are all going mad!! Our bodies are so good at throwing us the curve ball just when we think we know what's going on! Fingers and toes crossed that it DOES mean something lol! OK, I'm gonna post this one and then give you the run down on IUI... 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 13th, 2008 10:29 PM
OK so...l I arrived in Bangkok on Thursday morning and went straight to the hospital. I hadn't been able to temp that morning cos i was up so early to get the flight so I had no idea whether i was too late. So when the nurse was checking my blood pressure and temperature I asked her what my temperature was and she said normal. So I was like, yeah but what is it? She says, why did you have a fever before? No, but what is it? lol. When she told me I knew I hadn't o'd yet - I told her that and she burst out laughing! Then I met the Dr very briefly and he did the u/s. Good news was I was about to ovulate in the next 24 hours and bad news was there was only one egg. So much for Clomid. He said if this cycle doesn't work, I need to up to dose to 100mg to produce more eggs. he gave me a shot of Ovidrel to make sure I ovulated the next day. So that was that for Thursday. Then on Friday morning DH went to the hospital to give a sample. I had arranged to meet him in the coffee shop in the lobby an hour later but when I got there he wasn't there so I went up to the fertility center and he was just coming out of the room with such a sorry look on his face. Turned out that the lab said the first sample wasn't good enough and they needed another one so he had to do it twice in like half an hour! They hadn't told him what the problem was but when I asked the nurse she said it was low count. So then we were really stressed about it but after about 20 minutes the lab called back and said it was ok for IUI. Phew! We came back an hour later and they showed us DH's s/a - it was still low but not as low as last time so that was good. Postwash was 29 million total and the Dr said that anything over 10 million was good so Phew again. After that the nurse got me to check the names on the sample and the Dr did the IUI. It wasn't really painful, just a bit when he opened the cervix. I had to lie there for 30 minutes afterwards and that was it! I made DH stay in the room while it was happening. He is SO squeamish about these things but if I'm going to get pregnant I want my husband to at least be in the room when it happens lol. It was pretty funny though, he was looking every where but at the Dr, he couldn't cope with it at all. The Dr told me I shouldn't do any exercise and to take it really easy this week to give implantation a chance to happen. When I was getting dressed the nurse said, have a nice day, and then she whispered, and have a nice pregnancy! it was funny. I mean I'm not fooling myself, I know our chances aren't huge but it was nice of her. When we left she waved at us and said, see you for your first prenatal. Lol. So that was it girls, seriously couldn't have been easier. I still can't believe it went so perfectly. I was SO scared something would go wrong. So now I'm officially in the tww, 3dpo and I'm NOT charting. What will be will be. I feel now that whatever happens it totally out of our control, ya know? If it doesn't happen, it's not because of something we did or didn't do and I have to say, that it a major relief. I sometimes torture myself during the tww wondering did we do it enough, or too much or at the right time or whatever and IUI just eliminates all that worry. Geez, it's almost worth the money just for the peace of mind! But we're realistic and we're already making plans for next month in case this doesn't work. With only one egg, the chances aren't great but still....it's possible, right?! And Bangkok was so great, I got some shopping done and we ate fantastic food, mexican, spanish, italian, you name it! I love that city, it's such a buzz. Obviously we couldn't go out dancing or bar-hopping lol, but still, we had a great time. I was so depressed coming back to work today :-( OK, this is now officially a tome, so I'm gonna stop typing, haha. Slingshotting some sparkly stuff your way girls. Oh and hi Jaci, welcome! 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 14th, 2008 12:39 PM
Naomi - WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!! We missed you!!!!! Glad to hear that things went well in Bangkok. Your dh deserves a medal - two times in a half hour - wow! I know that my dh was embarrassed from giving just one sample (he did it in the washroom outside the lab to eliminate any worry re things going on in the transportation...)! I will keep my fingers crossed for you! And, welcome to the tww - nice to have some company! So, I had a total breakdown last night...full out sobbing! Not just because of the puking, but probably mainly...on top of the nausea/puking, I couldn't find the details of where my appointment this morning was supposed to take place (I thought that the woman told me over the phone that it was going to be with a different MD...btw it is really not like me to not have written down the details...). Anyways, it was like 10:30 at night, no one to call and my appointment was for this am before any of the offices were officially open (according to their answering machines...) After thinking about it for a few minutes, I thought I might still have the original paper that I had written the appointment date on so I started tearing my house apart. In the process of doing this, I discovered that my plastic tray that had been holding my plants apparently had a leak in it - well, the wood top on a half wall between two rooms is now thoroughly wrecked and possibly dry rotted out...That was the big straw that broke my back...I lost it! I just balled! Anyway, in the end, I decided to go to my gyn's office this morning 30 minutes early hoping that someone would be there. Luckily the receptionists were there and my appointment in the end was with my gyn. My dh even managed to make it to the office in time. We have decided to go ahead with the diagnosistic hysteroscopy. The gyn indicated that based on my symptoms, it really sounds like I might have endo (even if it didn't show on the MRI that I had last fall). Plus, she's going to check my tubes etc too. She gave me the option of starting with the hsg, but at this point, I figured I may as well just do everything in one fell swoop. If the procedure doesn't identify anything, she said that she'd be referring me to a fertility clinic because I'd officially be at the stage of having unexplained infertility. Apparently Clomid wouldn't be right for me since I am definitely ovulating each cycle. And, she reassured me that my progesterone level is sufficient. She finally did agree with me that my CM issues (bleeding at weird times during the cycle) aren't normal. Anyways, I don't know if I should be happy because finally she's agreeing that there is an issue and is sending me to a fertility clinic, or freaking out, because there is an issue and I am being sent to a fertility clinic. On the flip side, she said that food poisining wouldn't keep me out this cycle so there is always a chance that I may get a BFP this month (or next)...baby dust to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Name: Krissy68 | Date: Jul 14th, 2008 5:02 PM
Hi I just wanted to join in. I am on cd 10 and I am currently taking estrodoil and will finish on cd 12 then on cd 17 I will start taking progresterone gel. Krissy68 

Name: Naomi98 | Date: Jul 14th, 2008 9:42 PM
Hey girls. Heidi, wow, poor you. Sounds like a combination of 2ww stress and hormones. Ugh! Your appointment sounded really positive though. I think sometimes just talking these things through with a doctor who's willing to listen can be such a relief. So what's the difference between a hysteroscopy and laparoscopy? And when is the procedure going to happen? Don't worry - I think whether they find something or not, it's all good because the more information you have about what's going on, the more you can do to fix it. And also, I'd be jumping at the chance to get referred to a fertility clinic. Seriously, I found everyone at my clinic so reassuring - it's never "if" I get pregnant, it's always "when". They're very positive and it seems like no fertility problem would phase them. It does wonders for my own confidence that it will happen eventually. I'm really excited for you! So I'm 4dpo (or is that dpiui lol) and my boobs aren't even the tiniest bit sore. It scares me a bit, l worry I didn't ovulate properly or something. I'm always feeling some pain by now so I don't know what's going on. I want sore boobs - NOW! lol oh well, just gonna have to wait it out I guess. So Heidi, when's af due for you? you must be getting close to the end of the 2ww? Kelly girlie, where are you, I miss ya! Hi Krissy, good luck with the progesterone - is it your first round? Laters ladies, gotta go do some work! x 

Name: irregularfrustration | Date: Jul 15th, 2008 10:08 AM
Morning ladies! Kelly - come out come out wherever you are - you are missed!!!!!!! Krissy - welcome!!! How long have you been ttc? I am on cycle 8 myself. What's the estradiol for? Naomi - I can't remember - how many months have you been ttc? Btw, lmao re having dh in the room during the insemination - it totally makes sense that he should be there but yeah, I can only imagine how squeamish he must have been! As for the lack of boob soreness - maybe that's a sign that something's different this cycle in a good way if you know what i mean. I will keep my fingers crossed for you!!! We need a BFP already! As for me, sorry for having posted such a long whiny rant yesterday...I just needed to vent. Today, I am trying a new thing - looking on the bright side! As for how many dpo I am now, I am guessing approx. 8 (but I could be as many as 10)...I am starting to get a bit crampy but my boobs aren't really that sore at all. I am going to try to hold off testing until the weekend since I will probably start spotting tomorrow/Thursday at the latest if I didn't succeed this cycle. I'd rather just get AF than see another BFN. Oh, apparently I am going to have BOTH a laparoscopy AND a hysteroscopy - in the lap, they make two to three small incisions in my abdomen and look inside that way. The hysteroscopy, I believe will be similar to an hsg - they shove something through my cervix to test to see if the tubes are open etc. Fun, fun! Magical brillian babydust to all of you!