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Really Need Some Advice W/sleeping Issues

19 posts on this thread and the last post was on January 2nd, 2006 3:03 PM
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Rachael mommy2lucas - January 2nd, 2006 1:14 PM
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Monica and I were chatting about this, so I wanted to ask everyone so that I could get some different ideas. Lucas is 4 mos old and a terrible sleeper. For the first 5 weeks of life he literally did not sleep more than 1 hour at a time ever, and he is really, really restless. Along with fixing his other issues at that time, reflux, and soy allergy, I started co sleeping which started out working decently. As those first few weeks progressed he started sleeping longer, still restless thoug. By 2 mos or so, we had it down to only getting up once to eat at night and his daily napping began to improve, and he will sleep in his crib most of the time for those. Still not real predictable with the naps, but much better than they had been. Well, the last month he has gotten worse. He wants to wake up to eat twice. That in itself does not bother me, it is the quality of sleep we get. I am exhausted and it feels as if I do not sleep at all because at least 2 times an hour, he wakes up in a crying jag and will not calm down unless I wake to shus/pat him back to sleep. He is not really awake, but cannot calm himself down. He flails all over and sleeps so lightly, I don't know how he gets any rest either. He does not wake up to play, he just sleeps like total crap. Swaddling is out. I tried and tried and it makes him more mad. I do not know what to do. I do not know what is wrong with him! He was colicky and is a very high maintenance, easy to overstimulate kind of baby. But no sleep 4 mos later is rough on me. I work full time! Any suggestions would be kindly appreciated. Thanks ladies!


amanda.d - January 2nd, 2006 1:18 PM

I find that bathing our baby in the nighttime bath stuff works awesome. We also let him get absolutely exhausted. Our guy eats twice the amount from normal before bed (almost like he is preparing to sleep for 7 hours) and has an awesome sleep. I have no other real suggestions but I do hope these might help.


Rachael mommy2lucas - January 2nd, 2006 1:23 PM

I use the bedtime bath stuff, smells great! I can get him calm and to sleep, its getting him to stay asleep that is the problem.


amanda.d - January 2nd, 2006 1:25 PM

Is he snuggly enough? My little guy has to have the exact amount of padding around him to have a solid sleep. I hate to say it but sometimes he will only get his best sleep in his bouncy chair. Even rarily in his carseat. You could try that. My philosiphy is that it doesn't matter where they sleep just if they sleep and are comfy, lol.



monica - January 2nd, 2006 1:30 PM

Rachael Caleb was like that too...but because he is such a light sleeper we literaly had to have him sleep all by himself, In his own room. Once we started doing that he started sleeping longer and longer. I also dream feed. He drinks most of his meals at 7 and 10 pm. He will drink up to 15 oz in that short amount of time. He never wakes up hungry after giving him an 8 oz bottle with cereal in it at 10. We use to have to be so quiet at night so that he wouldnt wake up......Try swaddling only his arms at least. Well we help aid he sleep so well that now he can sleep in the same room with his big brother (big brothers dream to be able to have a sleep mate) I will only let him CIO if he is whimpering or crying is calm..if he cries like something is wrong I run to his room pick him up and hug him and once he is calm he will fall asleep again.


Rachael mommy2lucas - January 2nd, 2006 1:57 PM

Sometimes I can't get him to take more than 5 oz or so at bedtime. I guess I better suck it up and start making him sleep in his crib. I'm just sooo tired.....


monica - January 2nd, 2006 2:12 PM

Just give it a try...if he is anything like Caleb it should work out.....I know caleb loves to snuggle but sometimes they need a little help to get them on a good sleepiing pattern.


Rachael mommy2lucas - January 2nd, 2006 2:21 PM

I would put him in his bouncy, car seat, what ever as long as it worked! He won't sleep in them. He will only catnap in his swing. It took him months to even like the darned thing. I wish I knew why he was so difficult. He is definitely his mother's son!



Chelsey - January 2nd, 2006 2:22 PM

Gabriel will only eat 4 oz. of formula at a time, unless its morning, then he'll eat 6 oz. Lucas doesn't take a pacifier does he? Maybe instead of feeding him through the night, see if a pacifier will suffice. It may be that he just needs some comfort, not hungry. Gabriel eats cereal and formula at about 6 pm, then I start getting him ready for bed... bath, play time, and then I give him another 4 oz of formula. All I do is put him in his crib, and he's out for about 12 hours. Maybe you could also try putting Lucas in his own bed/ room. On the rare chance that Gabe does wake up during the night, its usually because he a nasty burp thats stuck. I just pick him up, rub his back, then lay him down w/ his pacifier. If he is still awake, he'll eventually talk himself to back to sleep. I dont suppose that seeing as how you are co-sleeping, you or Dh are not the ones waking him up during the night?!!! Rolling around, flailing arms or snoring?!!! LOL! I dunno! My kids sleep like angels, so just thought I'd throw a few possibilities out there!


SonyaM - January 2nd, 2006 2:27 PM

I know a lot of people will not agree with me but I really think he just might need to cry. I have noticed that if I leave Mason alone to cry and go in every few minutes to pat and shush him he will calm down and go back to sleep. I feel very strongly that babies have to learn to fall alseep on their own because if they wake up in the middle of the night they will want you to calm them down to go back to sleep. We experienced this with our first son and are trying different tactics with our second son. It is working for the most part. Do what feels comfortable and good luck.


Rachael mommy2lucas - January 2nd, 2006 2:28 PM

Thanks Chelsey. I am a quiet sleeper, I do not even move. We have a huge king size, but perhaps my dh does wake him sometimes. I try and try to offer a pacifier in the hopes that Lucas will take one, but no such luck. Most of the time he does just want comfort, it's a different cry when he is hungry. The kid loves making his mommy nutso, I think! As if I'm not nutty enough anyways!LOL!


monica - January 2nd, 2006 2:33 PM

sonya I agree....I have let caleb cio when i know he is fed changed and all is well. But it usually only takes him at the most 15 minutes and then he is out.....at night if he cries and its a normal cry I will sneak in check up on him but not pick him up......he has learned to put himself back to sleep.


Rachael mommy2lucas - January 2nd, 2006 2:38 PM

I guess I better get cracking then and toughen up. I have never had a problem letting other people's kids cry it out a little while, I am just so in love with my son, it breaks my heart. But I need to sleep too!


lisa - January 2nd, 2006 2:39 PM

i dont let jasmin cry and she needs me to get her to sleep, im going with the approach that if you make them secure they will do it on their own when their ready??


Lisastar9 - January 2nd, 2006 2:42 PM

How dard is the window covering in the bedroom that you put Lucus to sleep in. In my house we have navy blue window covering and we all sleep good. Just a suggestion


Rachael mommy2lucas - January 2nd, 2006 2:43 PM

That has been my approach too Lisa, but doesn't seem to be working. He really has come leaps and bounds since he was newborn, but I'm a little desperate since 4 mos of no sleep=groggy, cranky, mommy!


Chelsey - January 2nd, 2006 2:43 PM

Letting him cry is totally okay! You may not get much sleep for the first couple of nights, but he'll evetually realize that nobody is coming to rescue him, and he'll get used to going back to sleep on is own! You really need to sleep if you are working full time... so I say do whatever it takes to get some rest!