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Ovulation & TTC After M/C Part 5 !

576 posts on this thread and the last post was on July 10th, 2006 10:43 AM
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allieb - June 5th, 2006 6:23 PM

Hi - I went to the dr. today. They did a sonogram and there was nothing there. No sac, nothing. So it's either a miscarry or an(other) ectopic. They took my betas and will again on Wed. Meeting with Dr. again on Thursday. If one more person says to me ( and I don't mean here on this forum but out in the world) "Well, at least you know you can get pregnant!" I'm going to scream. The last time someone said that to me, I said that it's not worth a damn if you can't stay pg for 5 minutes. Sorry - I'm just miserable.


Christi2006 - June 5th, 2006 8:24 PM

Allieb....I'm so sorry to hear that. Boy, when I read your post your feelings sent shivers down my spine, I feel and felt the same exact way after both my m/c's. There is nothing I could say to console you, just hang in there...this roller coaster of getting pregnant is quite a bumpy and scary ride. I think I am ovulating right now, but, can you believe I am nervous even trying! Am I ready to go thru whatever is in store for pregnancy #3? I guess I am, gotta hold my breath and go for it, right?


Bee99 - June 5th, 2006 8:51 PM

DANIELLA...I have 3 older brothers the gaps between them are15 months between 1st and 2nd and 14 months 2nd and 3rd I believe Mum breast feed them for a few months.



Bee99 - June 5th, 2006 9:03 PM

allieb and christi yea people can say some sillt things dont know if its silly that is the most annoying or it being repeated time and time again I had friends that are having trouble conceiving and everyone keeps saying what are you guys waiting for and come on its your turn times a ticking. Im thinking I could smack you I hate to imaigine how they feel. I know I sound violant its really figure of speeches you understand how much damage could a 4'11 person do? speaking of which for me today and you tommorow its 666..I know Bee just thats silly..lol.


allieb - June 5th, 2006 9:42 PM

Thank you Christi and Bee. I think you all out there are pretty much the only one s who can say anything to make me feel remotely better right now. My mother told me to take a valium and not to think about it. Nice, huh? Anyway - thanks. Dawn - good luck - crossing fingers for you.


Helene - June 5th, 2006 11:17 PM

Oh, ALlie, I am so sorry. ARe they sure? I remember that Christie's docs made her come back days later for another u/s to be sure. I don't blame you about the "at east you know you can get pregnant" comment. That only helps the first time around after you have had time to settle in. WHen you start having multiple m/c that means sh@$ because as you said, what you care about is STAYING pregnant. It is probably along the same lines of hurt as the people who tell someone who already has kids, at least you already have kids. It doesn't erase te hurt of losing the new one. But people are stupid. They (we) think that they have to say something when the truth is it is best to say as little as possible and just listen. I really hope that you and Christie will both get pregnant again and stay pregnant because you will both be wonderful moms and heaven knows you will appreciate the gift. And Christie I can understand that feeling of "am I ready for this"? as I think all of us can. It is so scary becasue as much as we want it the fear of being hurt so deeply is right there just looming. Lavendar & Cbella - welcome and so sorry for your losses.It is always nice to meet everyone but I often think how nice it would have been had we all been meeting on the 1st trimester thread under a happier note. But the good news is that there are happier notes ahead for all of us. I know we keep throwing up Daniella as our big example, but I think she hit the most hurdles - 3 m/c's including an ectopic that almost killed her - and she just gave birth to a healthy boy. Her little guy is proof that it can and will happen for us, and all things are possible. As for the clomid - that is a pretty powerful drug, and while it has helped many women, I think that a lot of things should be considered first, such as age, length of time trying,feritility issues and so forth. It also has some serious side effects, which is why I wouldn't use it unless the docs had definitley determined I had a serious fertility problem that couldn't be solved otherwise. Daniella- I have heard the same thing about breastfeeding and ovulation. But be careful - i kneaw number of kids growing up who were 9-11months apart - they used to call that "Irish twins." (hope that is not offensive to anyone!). Of course, breast feeding wasnot in vogue in the states when I was a babe,so we can't chalk it up to that! MY oldest brother and sister are 14 months apart and mom said she was havign post-partum and morning sickness at the same time and wanted to jump out a window! Bee - I am fine with your "violent imagery" as i am much the same. I would always say things like "My parents woudl knock my teth down my throat if I did that" or I want to "smack him/her upside the head" but since I started teaching I had to tone that down and save it for out of class as I don't want anyone to misunderstand.


Daniella - June 5th, 2006 11:29 PM

Bee- yea, 14, 15, etc. months between isn't unheard of.. Heck, my brothers birthday is Oct. 15th... and mine is Nov. 2nd the next year. So, not even 13 months between. BUT>... thats about 5 months after having a baby.. . Doubt you can get pregnant only 5 weeks. I'd say extremely rare. Hubby leaves at the end of the week and is supposed to be gone 3 months. I'll prolly look into the pill or something for when he gets back. It just sucks having just given birth and then having no help cuz hubby gets deployed. I am thankful he was here for the birth but now its starting to get rough cuz baby doesn't sleep as much and is real fussy lately. Thank God he isn't a colic baby, but its still rough. Dawn- hopefully my negative pregnancy test brings you a positive one. lol.. down one, up another. hehe... then since Bee just gave birth, hopefully Christi gets the next. :) that would be cool.. ___Allie- Did you have any prior blood work done and/or scans? Anyhow, yea... there really isn't any words right now that can be said to help how you feel. Its so emotionally draining. I really hope you stay as strong as possible as hard as it may seem. You did tell mom, sis and dh so maybe you can lean on them. ALso, have to stay strong for dh as well. Sometimes men dont show feelings as well and you both need each other to help get through this.



Daniella - June 5th, 2006 11:29 PM

__Lavender- how long were you trying to get pregnant before the loss (or should I say.. not NOT trying to get pregnant)?? Also, are you over 35?? (if you don't mind me asking)... if not, then I would definitely NOT take clomid. You should only take it if its been over a year of actual trying to conceive OR 6 months if you are over 35. Yet, since you were just pregnant then its obvious you CAN get pregnant (not throwing that as Allie was just saying, but just for drug purposes)..... So, you may want to let your body heal and go from there. Maybe even have test set up to see whats going on. Like day 3 of your AF, day 7 and day 16 to see if ovulation occurred. TOO many doctors prescribe clomid out like its candy before they even test to see if they even need it. There are so many side effects that can actually make it worse for trying. My friend developed ovarian cancer from it is not trying to get IVF (invetro fertilization) done just because of what the drug did to her. It wasn't a problem with ovulation.. it was actually her tube for the problem she couldn't get pregnant. So her ovaries got over stimulated. Its kinda like the last straw to opt to go do that.. not just jumping at it just because we want baby "NOW" lol.. I'm sure it will happen in now time. I was also in the same boat as you. When I lost my last one at 12 weeks, I was in the hospital having the D&C surgery done while my sister in law was in the hospital giving birth. Really crazy and it killed really bad. I didn't go to their room that day, but I did the next as hard as it was. My brother said whats wrong and I told him things didn't look good with my baby and he made a comment saying, "Ah, shut up! you know everything is fine" I felt like slapping him. Granted he didn't know I just had surgery, but he still shouldn't have said that. Its not a joke to say the baby didn't make it.


Bee99 - June 5th, 2006 11:56 PM

I see everyones comming out of their shell Helen is smaking upside the head LOL that sounds so funny to me... and now Daniella is wanting to slap her brother. Remember dont bottle it up haha.
Yea Daniella it would be good to get some BFPs well keep hoping.


Daniella - June 6th, 2006 12:10 AM

Wow.. Helene I think I typed and posted as you did. LOL... Kinda repeated what each other said. lol... Anyhow... Bee- yea, we are all hormonal ladies here in one way or another lol.. I think the comments are appropriate. hehe... even in my line of field. (shhh, don't tell anyone I said that. lol) haha


LeraeAllyn - June 6th, 2006 9:36 AM

HELENE - I forgot to answer you -- you asked about the crib set I got I think. It is by Kids Line and the Monterey theme. It is super cute - green, blue, yellow and white, has stripes, plaid and a moon and stars theme. Most stores are not carrying it in stock since it is an old style but it is still available online. Well, my temp was still up this morning 98.33. I can not wait to find out here - Last month my temp started to drop two days before a/f came so I should have a fare idea tomorrow or wednesday what lies ahead. Cross all fingers and toes. Dawn


Lavender - June 6th, 2006 10:09 AM

Thanks everyone for responding. I realize now that I may be jumping the gun with Clomid. I did a little more research and read your posts and have decided to just wait and see. Daniella--I am 26. My husband and I have not been using protection for about 2 1/2 years, but we haven't been actively ttc. My doc originally mentioned Clomid becuase my periods are so irregular and there is a possibility that I don't ovulate every month. I guess we will wait and see. I got af about 3 weeks after the d&c and am waiting for the 2nd af (my doc said to wait 2 cycles). So after the 2nd af, hubby and I are going to ttc.
ALLIEB---I am so sorry to hear about your troubles. I will say a prayer for you today. It is good that you are on this forum. I didn't realize it until I started reading these forums (and writing in them) that the only people that really understand what I am going through, are other women who have experienced the same thing. I am so glad I wrote yesterday!! Big hugs to everyone who needs 'em. L


Tara S - June 6th, 2006 1:12 PM

Hi ladies, allieb, I am so sorry and that was so rude of people to say at least you can get pregnant. Lots of hugs and prayers for you! I have my appointment today for a follow-up since I was bleeding last week. I used to look forward to seeing the Obgyn, but now its always scary, I never know whats going to happen. Danielle, with my son it took 6 months before i got my first af. I even thought I was pregnant, but tests were always negative. I had a cesarean and only bled for about 2 weeks after having him. My first daughter was vaginal and I bled for 6 weeks and got period after. Treya I bled for 3 months, because I had placental tissue still left in me and when I passed it I stopped bleeding right after. Dawn, Im keeping my fingers crossed for you.Lavender, my friend was on clomid and it worked after 2 cycles, but disadvantage is the awful side effects she got. Have a good day everyone!


Lavender - June 6th, 2006 3:14 PM

TaraS--What side effects did your friend get? I have read about different effects, some that are more common and some rare..tnx--L


Tara S - June 6th, 2006 5:21 PM

Lavender, clomid made my friend really moody. I couldent even phone her while she was on them, she was so irritable and not usually like that. She also had hot flashes and seen specks of light, but the worst was her moodiness. When my sister in law went on them she complained of the same, but also not feeling well and thought she was going through menopause. She went off them, but concieved on her own a few months later. I really don't know that much about clomid, just from others that have been on it. I myself had the doctor do a blood test to see if I was ovulating, on day 21 of my cycle. My friend tryed for over a year and did end up with a healthy baby boy after 2 cycles on clomid. She only ovulated once a year, so clomid did help. Do your research on clomid and talk it over with Hubby and doctor to see if its the best for you.I had my doctors appointment today and he didn't do an ultrasound just made appointment for my nuchal Translucency Screening on July 13. Its awful when they hand you all sorts of reading material on pregnancy and I just sat there thinking well this is the third time in one year and hopefully this time I can make it to 40 weeks with a healthy baby. I actually get depressed sitting in the waiting room with happy couples. I have way too much fear going into this pregnancy, I must admit my first two healthy pregnancies were super easy when I never experienced a loss yet. Everyone is emotionally drained by my losses. My mom doesent even want to talk about this pregnancy and my hubby claims its hard not knowing the future yet. Im so tierd lately and wish I could snap my fingers and be past 1 trimester.take care!


Daniella - June 6th, 2006 7:06 PM

Lavender- Ok, we are about the same age also. :) Just wondering, what makes you think you may not be ovulating? Have you had ultrasounds and/or tests?? It coudl just be a simple hormonal problem that can help... My periods were always abnormal and would go 3 months without and never knew when it would come. I also only ovulated a couple times a year. After my 3rd loss, I found out that my body doesn't produce enough progesterone. I guess it did the few times I got pregnant, just enough to get pregnant but not enough to keep the pregnancy. The longest one was 12 weeks, but stopped growing at about 7 weeks. Had a heart flicker to 12 weeks though. After many test and the D&C it was found that I have "luteal phase defect"... so, once I found out I was pregnant again, I would have to go on progesterone supplements right away. Well, I concieved before my first AF after my last loss at 5 weeks post m/c... and went on progesterone supplements right away. The levels still weren't real high, but just enough to keep the baby. Not hes one month old. Unfortunately it took 3 losses to figure it out... but, now I have learned so much about my body, my cycles, etc. I am glad I never took the clomid. Its still in my medicine cabinet. Hubby and I have been married for 4 years and never used protection and just now have a son. My best advice is to ask the doctor about testing after your next AF. They test your hormone levels day 3 post AF, then maybe day 7, and definitely after when you should ovulate to see if ovulation occured. Once the rule out hormone problems, and if your not ovulating and not concieving, then they may give you clomid.. the smallest dose to start. YET, dont just take it until they test other things first. ANYHOW, I am sure it will happen in no time and you'll have a baby in your arms soon. :)


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