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I did not have this, but from what I was told (i worried about having it possibly when I had my losses). The nurses told me the remedy for this is basically another d&c...crazy huh? Are you having trouble conceiving too? A friend of mine was and found out she had scarrig on her CERVIX from d&cs so the dr. dilated her a bit and she had sex, bam! she's pregnant after several losses AND failed IVF. This was natural. You can have a baby I'm positive, just make sure you get the lining checked out before trying right now. I hear that there are certain drugs the dr. can prescribe to help the lining (hormones, etc.) If you are not already taking a prenatal, I'd do that along with extra folic, definitely B6 add a B12 and maybe a baby aspirin. That sounds like a lot, but it is really good for you overall and for fertility in general. It's natural too...no herbal stuff or anything like that.

Thanks so much for responding...I actually had no trouble conceiving (two months off the pill), its just that since the loss I still haven't had a period, and my levels took a long time to return so I couldn't even try - now they're telling me that I can't even try because my lining isn't building up and I'm not getting my period...I have no idea what this means for the future...Are you having trouble getting pregnant? If so I'm sorry girl - let me know because with all the drama i'm a walking book on things to do - Thanks for sharing about your friend...Can you explain a bit more what exactly they did to dialate her? As far as another d & c for the scarring - I actually heard from internet reading and what my doctor said - anyone who suggests another d & c for scarring is 100% wrong and can actually do worse & possible irreversible damage. - I am dying to have a baby - the loss was so hard for me - I just need to be as safe as possible to ensure that I can get pregnant again when this all clears up. I've been taking the prenatal vitamins, I'll defanitely take your advice on the extra folic acid - and make a run to the drug store for some B6 and B12...I'm not sure if I can take baby asprin since i've had minor allergies (swelling/stomach aches) to asprin in the past...My doctor wanted to hold off on perscribing more hormones to build the lining (Prometrium failed to bring on my period) until we know exactly what is inside. I have another sonogram scheduled tuesday and then she wants me to get a SHG...Thanks so much for your help girl! I'm going crazy with all this!

Hang in there! It sounds like this all could be contributed to the last pregnancy and I'm sure it will be resolved soon! I did have problems for a long time. I had 6 early losses over the past 2-3 years and then finally got pregnant with my daughter about a year ago and had her this past July. It was so hard and heartbreaking and I too know too much on what things can be done, lol! I did so much research because I was desparate. The doctor that finally helped me was a fertility specialist. He put me on prometrium right after bfp along with blood thinners and I did baby aspirin, etc. I don't know what exactly helped, but something did! Good luck to you and I'll check in to see how things are going!

STEF - THANKS A MILLION -

where do you live? just in case you know a fertility specialist in my area...i'm in NYC

Hi Stacyr- I wanted to let you know, I was in a similar situation this past winter. I had a D&C done back in January and I hadn't had my period for about three months. I had spotting here and there in which I thought was my period. I found a RE who preformed an SHG and sure enough found something that shouldn't have been there. He scheduled me for a hysteroscopy and it turned out I had POC (products of conception) still in me. The RE removed the POC and put me on estrogen to hopefully build up my lining and prevent scarring. I had moved away since then and found a new RE who preformed an HSG and because the POC were in me for so long before they were removed I did have a little bit of scarring. However mine was so minimal that my current RE didn't feel the need to do anything. Depending on the extent of your scarring a specialist may want to try to snip the bands of scar tissue out which is done through hysteroscopy in which they go in with a small microscope so they can see exactly what is being done. Sometims they put a balloon in your after the procedure to hold your uterus open so the scar tissue doesn't reform. There are lots of things they can do you just need to find a good specialist. Good luck!

Oh Stacyr I just read your in NYC. I actually live in NJ and I go through IVF NJ which is a fertility clinic with four offices throughout NJ. They are wonderful! I think the closest one to you would be their main office that is right near Rutgers University in New Brunswick. Let me know if you are interested.

ALLIE - thanks so much for sharing! I have felt so alone - like noone has been through the same thing - there's tons of support here - but noone who had really experienced what I'm going through...Those doctors in NJ sound great - if It comes to it that I need them - I will know soon - I went for my final sonogram before the SHG today...nurse told me OFF THE RECORD - that whatever it is thats inside has changed & shrunk - (prometrium?) there IS still something there but she said the doc there said it wasn't anything to worry about - I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high, as I can't take much more of the rollercoaster - and I am afraid that my doctor will call me in a few days and tell me that things are not okay - (its been over four months now since the d & c) Anyways now I wait again - I had a strange discharge today when I went to the bathroom before the sonogram - the only way I can describe it is (here goes) jelly - I have never had anything like that - not sure what it was...so who knows - I am really hoping that I ovulate this month and have a beautiful red flow for new years! I'll prob buy a kit to see if I do o on time - which would be around dec 16th - I am not sure if the doc is still going to send me for a SHG or not...Part of me wants to go - just to know for sure exactly what it is in there...I have to admit - I do feel a bit relieved - cautiously so ( I'm still so afraid of bad news) ...Did you have anything like this? Thanks again girl!!

Hi Stacy- Have you had your hcg levels checked to be sure they are at zero? A couple months after my D&C and still no period but one day of spotting I started tracking my temps from that day of spotting and it appeared I was ovulating. However, when I first started seeing the RE he decided that my hcg levels should be checked and sure enough they were hovering around 8. He took them two more times and the level remainined around 8 that is why he had me do the SHG and sure enough found left over tissue in there. So it's possilbe that you could still have products of conception in you and not scar tissue and still be ovulating. However it is also possible you could have a little bit of scarring. But just remember there is soooo much that can be done today. If your doctor recommends another D&C ask about a hysteroscopy. The problems with D&C's are they are done "blilnd." The doctor can't actually see what he's removing whereas with a hysteroscopy they can. Honestly if the nurse thinks what is inside of you has changed or shrunk it doesnt sound like scarring but more like products of conception and what your saw as "jelly" could be more products of conception coming out. I wish you the best of luck and don't be afraid to ask LOTS of questions. That's what the docs are there for. I love my RE here in NJ and would highly recommend him but I'm sure being in NYC there must be highly recommended specialists there as well which may be more convenient for you! I do know a bunch of people who live in the city but unfortunately none of them have had the need for RE's that I know of to get a recommendation from. Again good luck and keep me posted! :)

ALLIE - okay here goes with the big story. I think i'm gunna die typeing but i'll try to give you the short (it'll prob be a book) - I missed my period in June - but as a teacher (end of school) I was so busy I didn't even realize it...I went to the doctor the first week of july ( I couldn't go to my doctor of 11 years when I found out I was preg because she doesn't take my insurance - so I had to switch - I went to a friends doctor) anyway it was confirmed I was 7 1/2 weeks along. They found a healthy heartbeat, took blood gave me prenatals etc. and sent me on my way. The doctor told me around 11 or 12 weeks I should go to another place to get a high tech sonogram and nuchal screening. I made the appointment for August 6th - and went on living my happy pregnant life...(due date was my birthday in Feb by the way - so this years gunna be miserable) Anyways that appointment in that place was the worst experience I have had in my life...I got to watch on the big screen as they discovered my baby had died and I had had a missed m/c - the sonogropher was a cold b*** and the doctor wouldn't even see me - the nurse told me then tried to rush me out the room as I cried - thank god my DH was with me because I really lost it...Anyway - they said they called my doctor (the guy I had gone to ) and he said to come by tomorrow - short - he knew about the m/c and never even called me. My old doctor of 11 years called me back - to tell me what to do - the d & c and all and told me about a place that does them; I scheuled an appointment for thursday 7th at 12 noon - I felt so horrible knowing my dead baby was still inside (for an estimated week or two) and I just wanted to - well be normal again so I could grieve...The doctor I was seeing had told the nurse that I should go there in the morning - so I decided I would go there and then go to the d & c (still giving him a chance even though I never felt comfortable with him) I went to the office at 8am and waited for him until 11am - his manner with me was completely insensitive, he was very matter of fact and whatever about the loss ( I was still crying) I left there too late to get the d & c and so furious at him and at myself for even going. He tried to tell me he couldn't do a d & c until the next week - and I was supposed to leave on vacation to see my mother - if there was ever a time i needed one - it was then...Anyways I scheduled the d & c for friday August 8th (another bad experience but i'll save that for later - they put me in the room with the 15-year-olds-getting abortions and gave me abortion papers to fill out - then an oops were sorry after I went off - ok - that was over - I cried for a month etc. I went back to the d & c place for a follow-up cause I didn't have a doctor (to be honest I could have done it myself in the bathroom with a mirror!) 29 days after the d & c I had light brown spotting - I thought my period was starting then nothing...I called my old doc - who told me give it a couple more weeks - In the meantime I went looking for a dr - I went to 4 different ones till I found one I at least liked as a person. This is when the level drama began! I was 5 1/2 weeks post d&c when I went to her...She examined me and took blood - turned out my levels were still at 10.6 Sept 16th (she put possibility of new preg in my head) then told me to return in three weeks. I started to loose my mind - went to my regular doctor sept 26th for a hcg test - it was 5.1, then the 28th regular dr again and it was 4.0 (going down but real slow!) then oct 1st i returned to the gyno - I only told her about the 26th and she tested me and I was 3.6. October 5th I had brown spotting again then nothing...doctor had started telling me I had a molar pregnancy - freaked me out that I was gunna get brain cancer (thats when I shoulda gone back to my old Dr - but stoopid me - ) Then she took my levels again oct 7th - and boom - 10.4 - they had risen - she got the d & c paperwork & told me again it was a new preg cause d & c looked normal...I go back a week later and oct14th my levels tested normal (less than 2 hcg) oct 20, 27th and nov 4th levels all came back normal...still no period (nov 1st ish I had the brown spotting)...but blood nov 4th my fsh level was an 8.0 and that worried this doc so then she gets me going thinking things are wrong w-my ovaries...the 10th she took no blood and prescribed me provera - and another sonogram - ( I had had one before & they found something) thats when I lost it - I paid to see my old dr - best $125 I have spent - she took down my story (but I didn't have scans) and prescribed prometrium instead of provera - said it would put me to sleep at night instead of a raging b* all day - and she was right - but had me get scan first - scan on the 14th discovered still have "conception materials" - I brought records to her that day - she looked and said no d & c cause we need to know if scarring or just "left over from d & c - (she was also pissed with other doc cause of the scare she gave me with molar etc - said alot ) doc told me (18th) start prometrium and see if I get my period and it cleans out naturally - (ironically enough same day I tested positive on a n ovulation test - so we were timing it right - meds finished on thanksgiving - and I waited...in the meantime I have changed my insurance to pay $350 more a month to go back to my old doctor - at this point money isn't everything - I really want to have a baby - and I really trust my old doc.) - tuesday december 2nd & 3rd I had some spotting - but again thats it - other than the jelly - and yesterday the 9th sonogram - and were here - now i'm waiting to hear from my doctor - sorry about the whole book - but thats the story - Thanks for listening!! Let me know yours girl -

Holy crap girl you have been put through the ringer with these doctors!! I'm so happy to read that you are going back to your old doctor! Its definately worth paying the money to see someone who you are comfortable with. So my understanding is that you are waiting to see if the prometrium "cleaned you out" for good. To me it sounds like there wasn't a new pregnancy but rather just products of conception that were still hanging around all these months. Regardless if the scan you just had showed something I would really push for an SHG. I do hope you find answers with your doctor or if not him he can direct you to someone who can. My story is pretty simple. I've had three miscarriages. The first one ended in a D&C around 8weeks in which I had no complications, got my AF exactly 32 days later. My second m/c was a chemical pregnancy, and my third one happned this past January which ended in a D&C. But unfortunately there was some missed tissue and thats where the RE cam e in. I was tested for everything imaginable and everythign came back negative. I was diagnosed with unexplained early pregnancy losses. The first RE I saw put me on a fertility medication called Femara which I did for a few months, i was also put on progesterone suppositories to be used three days after I ovulated. When i switched RE's I decided to try a month of injections, specifically Follistim, which didn't work. Now its back to natural but my RE said to take baby aspirin daily and progesterone three days after i ovulate. My RE did find one band of scar tissue but when they preformed a hysteroscopy to get a better look they told me it was so minimal that it would effect a future pregnancy. I was lucky and count my blessings. Please keep me updated on what the doctors say and what they are going to do for you. I know the waiting sucks but I do hope you get a nice heavy flow and can put this all behind you and move on!

oops I meant "would not effect a future pregnancy"

ALLIE - quick note - I haven't forgotten about u - I've just been swamped!! Things should get easier after this weekend. Still no news on my end...Are you trying now???

Update - no AF and scheduled SHG January 6th.
The scan results were that the area changed but still something there - doctor wants to know exactly what it is. So now again - I wait - and pray for my period this month - should come just before new years (oh how happy 2009 would be!), but opk's are comming negative... maybe I missed it...I started testing tuesday (prob shouldve started sunday) Dr said my lining was 2mm - which she said was normal - i dunno sounded low to me...she also said I still need to do a preg test and make sure its negative & my levels are down..who knows - waiting is killing me! I just wanna know whats wrong and hopefully - get it fixed so I can ttc again! So sorry about all your losses! The 'good' part is there is no official problem so hopefully you'll get preg again with a seed that grows! I'm praying for you girl!

Hi Stacy- I'm glad you are going for the SHG. It's good to have it done to get a clear picture. A 2mm lining would be at the beginning of your cycle. A healthy lining would get up to at least 6mm and higher during the cycle. So it sounds like whatever the doctor is seeing in you may be preventing your lining from thickening. Your hormones could just be out of wack. I hope you find the answers on the 6th and you can start the New Year off with no worries! Have a great holiday and keep me updated! As for me I'm hoping to have some good news to share soon!

Allie - praying for u ma - hope all goes well :-) Do u know how long the SHG takes???