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SHELLY - thanks for the hugs :-) I think thats really what I need right now...As a matter of fact I do have a response for that sassy 7-year old - remember I teach 8-9 year olds - 7 is an amazing age - and to be honest I LOVE the sassy ones(7 going on 30)! I have noticed the sassyer they are the smarter they generally are too! If you push them in the right direction and give them outlets for all that spunk they can go so far! She may just need an artsy hobbie that she can put her energy into - something thats all her own that she can teach you about instead of running the mouth about anything and everything - focus it :-)
MILLY - nice to hear from u girl! glad I could make u smile! I'm also glad u had a nice break and have such a positive attitude now!! I admire that girl! I'm proud of u with the giving up jealousy etc. and the preg girl visits...I had a positive day with that too...Theye's a friend at work who is preg now - I didn't think I could face her although every thursday I eat with a small group of teachers & she's one - anyways I got the guts & went to the room - after a little while we were alone in the room - we spoke about everything going on with me and she was really supportive - she even advised me about taking prenatal vitamins with dha which mine didn't have and I didn't even know about - I was even able to talk to her about her pregnancy and look at the sonogram pics from her 11 1/2 week scan( the appt I found out I m/ced) I really am happy for her - yes there is still a little jealousy - but it doesn't mean I wish her bad its just (as I even said to her) I wish I was in her same place...hopefully in time I will be (although i'll never be 26 and preg :-) Hopefully i can also stop the uncontrollable jealousy - which is such a waisted emotion!
LISA - thanks for asking about me today! You really made me realize that I haven't been in this so long to be so upset - as I mentioned - its just the fear!! I'm praying that February will work out for both of us and we can be on here chatting about our pregnancies over the summer!
SYDNEY - glad to hear everything looks fine!! What exactly is factor V? Either way sounds like u are doing well!! Thats great ma!!
CREATING - Glad u had a good dr experience!! Its easy for people to say not to worry - good point as u said - but also easier said than done - I understand your worry - but on the other side - please treasure that preg for those of us still unable to :-) You and baby will be fine!!!
CHRYS - After all I have been through I have learned alot! For me it has taken 5 months past the d & c for them to correctly diagnose me - but even with the scarring I have there is still hope - point being what I have (which causes the super light periods) is EXTREMELY rare - from everything dr's told me it can take up to 14 weeks for your system to return to normal - so try not to freak out yet - have u been having cramping? ovulating? Let me know cause at this point i'm a book on not getting your period after a d & c...I have a feeling you'll be fine!!

STACY: Thank you for responding. I appreciate your willingness to share your expertise, especially since it wasn't knowledge you particularly wanted to have to have.
I had my d&c on Nov. 10. I am pretty sure that I ovulated on Thanksgiving day (based on cerv. mucus and physical symptoms). Exactly 14 days later, I started this light period business. I had pink/red stuff when I wipe on day 1 that stopped in the afternoon. On days 2 and, there was enough to need a pantyliner, but a pad was overkill. Nothing overnight on any of the days. It was like I needed to be upright to get things moving.

I am not sure about ovulation in Dec. I think I might have ovulated a little early this month, but there wasn't as much cerv. mucus for as long as in November. In any case, I did start my 'period' exactly 4 weeks after the last one. (One positive thing is that at least I am regular.) It started today the same way - pink/red when I wipe which stopped mid-afternoon. There was some bright red this evening, but nothing high volume.

I apologize for those of you for whom this is TMI. I have just been so glad to have this forum. I don't know how I would have managed. Your comments already have made me less panicky than I was this afternoon when the bleeding stopped. I was just positive something was terribly wrong. I just hate having to wait to find out (either to see a doctor or another month to see if a period comes or doesn't). All of you know that waiting is sometimes the worst part.

Thank you all so much. I am thinking of all of you.

STACY: I forgot to finish answering your questions. I have not have cramping either this month or last month (which isn't that unusual for me). Last month I had really sore breasts (which I sometime have before my period) that went away after the bleeding ended. I also tend to plateau with weight loss before my period because I am retaining water, and that happened last time. Thank you so, so much.

Oh, Lisa, If I even imagine just for that little tiny moment, that one day I could be announcing our pregnancy, it’s such an exciting and indescribably fantastic thought, I get light headed. I feel like some magical ray of lights run through my body and I feel this immense joy I stop breathing. It’s like a shock wave. But reality brings me quickly back. Instead of a real plan, it turned into just a dream. For us this March is going to be 3 years!!! we decided to give a try. First go, bang, lost it. Then we had a break the same thing happen few months later. Since then the silence, creepy, cruel and crushing silence!!! Now I just try not to think about it. No point! I don’t know whether it is the fact I have come to terms with it, or I simply can’t go on anymore. I’m tired, gravely disappointed, but life goes on and as we all know if we don’t want to lose our friends, we just have to be tough! There is nothing to admire Stacy. We all have our own crosses to bear, there are not two stories the same, so it’s different for all of us in one way, but the waiting game is the same, I agree, creating. I am in a mid cycle right now and I don’t know why and I am not able to control it (although it is a way better this month as i said before) I get really sad around the ovulation time. I wish I could erase my mind. My DH reckons I should totally forget about it, not even talk about it, concentrate on something else, but it creeps up on you here and then. I’ll be all happy and positive and then suddenly one day I wake up and I can almost feel the ovulation is over and nothing happen. Isn’t this just simply mental?

SMMOM and MAYBE - Thanks! I appreciate it! How are you both today? How is everyone today? I had a scary week. I am at a little under 6 weeks and on wednesday i started contracting. Dr. put me on more meds and I seem to be doing ok now. I am on work "limitations" until I see High Risk, hopefully sometime next week.
It is so good to see that all of you are so positive, even when life throws you curveballs! Everyone keep their chins up.

MAYBE - There is alot of this dry nasty cough stuff going around. Make sure you are getting in checked.

All I can say is TGIF! I am so looking forward to the weekend. Any of you girls have anything good planned? I don't, just going to relax. My DS got the Wii for Christmas and even though I have never been a video game kind of girl, I am so into it. Its so much fun and I am getting exercise at the same time. Shelly - Yes only 6 weeks from today which will go by so fast. I am with you - the thought of the teenage years scares me. DS has always been so easy that I am sure I will pay for it at some point! Carson sounds so laid back, that is great. DH wants a 4th? I can't imagine having that many! Good luck girl. CHRYS: how did the dr. appt go? I am sorry your dealing with all this, hopefully you can get some answers, your in my thoughts! CREATING: I give you credit - to this day I will not attend a baby shower. I have healed and moved on from my losses but I can't bring myself to sit and watch someone else celebrating their baby. Its just too hard so I don't ever put myself in that position. Granted, I haven't had any close friends or family in that position so its easy so far to just avoid it. I give you credit for facing it head on, I am an avoider... thats how I deal usually. STACY: we are so much alike! I am glad your boss is good to you. It always helps when they have been there. When I had my first loss at 9w4d and I called her to tell her I would be out she actually cried on the phone with me. Her loss was the exact same point in her pregnancy and she really could identify with how I was feeling. Even now when someone announces a pregnancy she always takes the time to pull me aside and ask how i feel. I just love her. That is great your boss is so accommodating, it makes it so much easier. And remember you have every right to cry vent and be upset, you have been through hell, but I am here to tell you that you will come out on top, just dont give up. I just know your day is coming and its going to be great to chat about our pregnancies this summer. Love it! MILEY: I am with you, I try to focus on how great that would feel to announce to the world I am having a baby and know there is a growing healthy baby inside of me, I am a big fan of The Secret and it says that you should find something that makes you feel good and think about it so much you feel how it would really feel if it were true. Its not always easy to do, but its so much better to have positive feelings. My DH had told me to try not to think about it too, but honestly men have no idea what it feels like to go through what we have. Yes they lost a child too but its so different to have it growing inside of your body, that is something they couldn't ever understand. Thankfully my DH now realizes that I just feel different about it. SYDNEY: Stay off your feet as much as possible. I am praying for you. Keep us posted. To the rest of you... ERIN, JUDI, MISS P, KATH.. I know I am missing a bunch of you... come back and let us know how your doing! I hope you all have a wonderful weekend! Much love.... LIS

I just wanted to post a quick update. My doctor was very reassuring, just like you ladies, and said that I shouldn't worry. He explained Asherman's syndrome, but said that it was unlikely in my case. He ordered a progesterone level check on day 23 of my cycle this month to make sure I am ovulating, which I think I am.

Then, I woke up this morning to what seems to be the start of a heavy period. I am shocked, but I am not getting my hopes up. It may subside in a few hours, but it is completely different from what I have had since the d&c. Maybe the last few days have been something like 'breakthrough bleeding' because there is so much. I don't know. We'll see. I am not sure whether or not I should still get the progesterone level check in a few weeks, but I imagine it won't hurt.

Thank you ladies so much for your words of encouragement. My anxiety level probably didn't help things at all, and when I finally relaxed, mother nature took over.

LISA and STACY: I hope you can find some way to get through the waiting over the next few weeks. I'll be checking to see how the procedures go. Maybe we will all have due dates close together.

Wow.... I know its been forever! Those of you who remember me I just wanted to give an update. I wont get into the extreme details but Ethan Malachi came three weeks early by c-section due to severe migrains that couldn't be explained and were absolutely dibilitating! The migrains ironically stopped 6 days after he was born. But he was absolutely perfect and 7 lbs 10 ozs (and that was 3 weeks early... he woulda been huge!) The c-section went amazingly well and I recovered VERY quickly! I couldn't have been happier eventhough a c-section was not in my plans! lol But Ethan was born on Nov. 26. It was an experience I'll never forget. He is a very sweet baby and truly gorgeous. For those who care to see my lil guy... I'm on facebook and myspace (Shana Timblin). Motherhood is everything I dreamed it would be and more. There is nothing in the world like looking at him. He is 6 and a half weeks now and has just begun smiling at Adam and I! We love it! He's beginning the baby babbling too which is adorable. We are so blessed! Ethan is everything to me, but for those who have lost one before.... I think you'll understand when I say he is not a replacement for our first bean. I love and adore BOTH my children although Ethan is the only one I've met. It was a year ago this January 30th that I found out I would not get to hold my first bean and a year this feb. 3 when they took her out of me surgically. My heart still cries for her often. I look at Ethan and thnk he's perfection and wonder what she would have been like...I know she would have been perfect too. I want to thank those of you who held my hand thru that experence...losing her....1 year ago. SMMOM... MRSHATH.... BRANDY.... JSTALEY... JUDISARAH so many of you! I pray for you and your families and pray you get every blessing your heart desires. God holds a special spot in heaven for each of you for being so supportive to me and so many others! Well I will try to come on sometimes and get updated and leave a message on how Ethan is doing. JUDI... thanks for continuing to ask about me! You're wonderful and I am SOOO excited for that healthy baby you are carrying! You're gunna be an amazing mother! Hello to all the new ladies. This is the perfect place to be for support! I wish you all well! Love to you all!

STACY.... Thanks..and I agree. Kids definitely need an outlet. She has been in ballet for years and swimming and has tried soccer and this yr will be taking guitar lessons. But the sassyness I am praying is somethign she will outgrow!!!! She has had a lot of changes the last 3 yrs, so opefully things will settle down for her. CHRYS....I am glad af has finally shown her nasty self for you....And that your dr has confirmed not to worry....see what relaxing our bodies can do. It goes a long ways !!! SHANAT...you are so grounded !!!!!! I am glad you are ok..I was worried. And that you are blessed with a healthy little baby !!! You deserve it !!! I will send you a msg on Facebook !!! MILLEY...my dear MILLEY.....you dont give up!!!! It is ok to be sad...to be frustrated and even mad....but dont give up. God has a plan for you...and he will bless you when the timing is just right....he is holding out for that perfect baby for you !!! And sometimes it takes a lot longer then we want...but it will happen. Have you been back to the dr lately??? As for me...little Carson decided to kick away at the computer ( I was holding him while typing) and he erased my big old long post...so this has taken me forever to type !!!! He is getting big...grabbing at everything now and trying to sit up on his own. He started baby food and is doing ok on that. The girls are growing like weeds. And yes...dh is still thinking a 4th. ( I cant seem to convince him otherwise) so we will see. ANyways...I hope you ladies have a great weekend...happy healthy babies and great fun bding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hi guys, just checking in... all well with me as far as we know....we are telling a few people about the twins now I'm past 13 weeks and the reactions are great to watch...and in some cases very revealing and interesting about the person being told. Those people who know they are good parents, and who know about my miscarrying before, are incredibly glad and congratulatory....whereas those people who are unsure of their own parenting skills are of the "glad it's you not me....wow, twins, that will be horrible......" or just laughing without saying congrats. I've never seen anything like it! It's very interesting like I say. I have moments of feeling a bit "snowed under" by the fact that we may need to increase our house size, change our car, etc, but those are things that probably would have been necessary anyway with just one more child. Anyhoo......the tiredness seems to have largely passed...not that I'm saying no to a nap when the oppportunity presents itself, but they aren't as necessary as they were a couple of weeks ago. ShanaT's post is great, very good at encapsulating what those of us who have miscarrie dand then conceived soon after meaning we could not have had both babies.....I still think of "Lento" (we found out about my first pregnancy, which I later m/c, when it was the size of a lentil) but on the whole I still think things worked out wonderfully.....I am so blessed in Lily and I couldn't have had them both but I will never forget Lento. Ladies who are counting the days til surgery, I'm counting with you.

Shelly, thank you so much for your kind words! I had to really control myself at my desk at work, that I wouldn't shed a tear. You are really a good hearted girl. I would love to believe in what Lisa says that there is a meaning to this long term waiting, but I can't. I don't think I would have been a worse mother if I had my baby when I m/c both times. I'm sure I would have love and cherished those children just as much without having to wait for it like this. No-one understands that "just because I can't conceive at the moment (hopefully it is just a very long moment), doesn't mean it should be that way!" If only I could really know for sure that one day I'll get there, it'd be so much easier. That's why I don't even want to think about it. The idea of it never happening is so frightening, you can’t possibly imagine! And when people start talking about adoption, I get sooooo mad!!! It's so easy giving out advices when they are themselves have it all without any effort, when they are holding their own biological babies in their hands, babies which are truly part of themselves. When I last saw my specialist on 22nd of December they concluded that everything is 100% fine and in the current medical state they can't define any cause, therefore we got classed as: Unexplained Infertility. They gave me an appt for March to see whether anything happens in those 3 months, but she was very clear they can't do anything for me at the moment. In any case DH will have to go to have a hernia operation. It'll take him over a month to recover, so we may as well postpone it. I apologize to all of you if this sounds a bit tough, but one lesson I’ve learned from all this is that life is tough.

Happy Monday! How is everyone doing today? I hope you all had a great weekend! CHRYS: Glad the Dr. was reassuring to you. Maybe seeing the Dr. relaxed you enough to bring on AF! Sometimes when you are waiting for it you can delay it. I hope this means all is back to normal for you and yes wouldn't' that be awesome if we were in the next group of mom's to be! Keeping everything crossed for us! SHANA! Great to hear from you and I am so happy you are doing so well. It sounds like Ethan was heaven sent... couldn't be happier for you. Shelly: Must be a girl thing, I remember me being sassy at that age, my DS is rarely sassy with me which trust me I am not complaining, I just hope I don't pay for it later on when he is a teenager! He has always been so laid back and easy that I have found his whole life I keep waiting for the tough part.... my mom tells me all the time that if I had another I would pay dearly! Uh oh!!!! KATH! So happy you are telling people now, must be so exciting! You must be popping by now? Thanks for asking about me (and Stacy!) the next month can't go fast enough for me, just want it over with. DH and I are planning a weekend trip away in April/May and I am hoping I will be ready to ttc by then, I am so ready! Well girls have a nice day STACY - you ok?Erin, I am worried about you!, Let us know! LISA

Go to the Dr at 2:30, and I am so nervous. I actually took a nap after kids went to school, cause I could not sleep last night.
I think it is a thing with girls, cause my daughter has been sassy since she was 7 and she is 9 now. It is a fine line I walk, cause I want her to be head strong, independent and be able to fight for herself, but wow I don't want her to be a brat. She has to survive in the world today but not hurt others. I really think schools and the world teach our children to grow up too soon. Sadly my son is going on 8 and has decided to be a bit of a stinker now. So I have 2 in the house. seems like one is being ok so the other has to pick up the torch and be mouthy. sigh ok I need to get some laundry done, eat and then get ready for the dr. I will let you all know how it goes.

Just a run by post to tell you all went well a the Doctors. I passed all tests and did an ultra sound. Baby measured the right size and the heartbeat was right were it should be. It was bouncing around all over the place, and the doctor got a big kick out of that. Also I really like my dr, she is great.

Hello ladies.... MILLEY....Just a quick story...my mil and fil tried for yrs to have a baby. ( back then they really didnt diagnose fertility the way they do now) and couldnt get pg. They did eventually adopt.....and 4 yrs after they adopted they got pg unexpectedly !!! And then again 2 yrs after that !!! So...sometimes it just happens when it happens. LISA...dont you listen to your mom...I bet you your next child will be like ds. I know alot of people that have 2 or 3 calm, well behaved, sweet kids. It just so happens that isnt me...lol !!! My girls are sassy pants !!! Carson seems to be calm and relaxed and just goes with the flow...but he is only 4 months old ( almost 5) So, you are going on a little trip huh..I am jelous. WHere to??? CREATING...I am so glad you are ok and baby is doing fabulous !!!! KATH..the twins should be showing themselves off !!! I am begging you to post some belly pics on FB!!!! I bet you look just adorable. And pooh to those people that say such things. Yes twins are a lot of work ( I used to nanny twins) but what baby isnt a lot of work. And it is something you will balance with ease, as you are their mum !!!! How are the rest of my girls doing today???