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Hi girls! sorry been MIA again so long. Jess and Cons you poor girls! I think maybe it is a stage with the getting up at night thing, Joshua has been getting up a couple of times at night (he never used to get up, he used to sleep right through the 10 hours). but he goes back to sleep after afew minutes without fussing or anything, he just talks to himself and falls asleep again. I think I also read something in the book "babywise" about babies at a certain age getting up like at 4-5am, talking to themselves for upto 45 mins then falling back asleep. Anyway, I really hope things start looking up for you girls. Have you girls thought about starting solid food? I started Joshua on cereal at bedtime, he LOVES IT!!! I also noticed that his diapers weren't as saturated with pee so I started giving him an extra 2-3 oz of pear juice a day and he absolutely loves that too! I just buy organic asian pears and juice one or two, sometimes I make pear sauce for him. Anyway, so far we've tried pears, mashed bananas and cereal. when did you mommies start solids? Mico, so glad to hear that you are sleeping a little more now, hope your lactation concerns work out, good for you for sticking with it so far, it will get better. I have so much to say but I have to go coz my time's up at work. will post more tomorrow. Love all you girls, Denise have a good time in FL, Ceru I can't wait for your baby girl to arrive. Alright, better go punch out before I'm in ovetime. ttyl!

Jess, I'm pretty sure that you are not screwing up your daughter but I would agree that maybe you shouldn't follow any book too religiously. How did last night go? Cons, is Matthew feeding better now? Waggzy, Joshua is sounding like the real little man with his pear juice and cereal, but what are his nappies smell-wise like now? I heard they got much worse once solids were introduced. As for me things are ticking along ok. I apologised to the guys at work for my mood swings and bought them a box of chocolates. But they're all really cool with it and said they know it's just because I'm pregnant. They also informed me I could be as rude as I liked if it meant I was going to keep bringing them chocolate! LOL :-) Well the weekend is fast approaching again and like last week I will say that I am going to try and get dh to take some photos of me. As to whether it happens or not is anybodies guess. I usually only remember once I've gone to bed or I'm looking like an extra from Night of the Living Dead!

Hi girls, back to work today. Kiza, I hope you are feeling better and your BP is down, that must have been a scary day for you! Your poor ds, he's been through so much this year! hugs and best wishes to you both. Ceru, what a pain in the *** that lady at your work sounds like, I can't blame you for wanting to get out of there asap! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you go soon. and I hope your delivery is as smooth as Mico's. I haven't seen all the new pics of Avery and Aidan yet but I'll be heading over there to check them out after this. speaking of which, jess thanks for setting a password to protect us, you are so good with the piczo site :) Mico, Aidan sounds like he's growing beautifully and gaining enough weight, hang in there with the breast feeding! Jess and Con, when I was reading about you tow thinking you might be pregnant again, I LOL coz I was in the same predicament a few days ago. I had some pink spotting over a course of 24 hrs from the 12th through the 13th of this month, then it stopped. It was waaayyy too early for my period which had ended just 2 weeks before, so I freaked out and thought "oh my God, I am pregnant!" we had had un-protected sex on cycle day 10, which would have been plenty safe on a 31 day cycle, but my cycle is sooo not regular yet. I was too afraid to take the test (of course I have plenty left over from last year :)) then on the 14th, I was sitting on the toilet when I had a flash back to the 14th of November 2006, it was the exact day I took a test hoping with all my might that I was pregnant, and I got a BFP, and now I have Joshua, and somehow I knew that if I was pregnant, it would be the best thing to happen and in the end I would be over joyed with another little blessing. so I took the test, it was negative. so now I'm left kinda half wishing that it was positive. Am I nuts or what?!? LB, and Liezel, I hope Ava and Nathan are doing well and kicking you girls over side-ways :) you'll be next after Ceru. I can't believe how fast time has gone by. waves to all you girls, I gotta go and get some work done. will check in later!

Hi girls.... man waggz all this talk about solids makes me realise our little babies are all grown up!! I haven't started Matt on cereal yet, but i will soon i guess!! We are encouraged to breastfeed exclusively until 6 months, but at the same time matt is such a big boy that I think he may need something more. He stares at my food as well!! lol He will be such a food moocher I can see it now. I think I will start him on the rice cereal in a week or so and then see how I go from there. Im really excited though... what a big boy eating adult food!! lol Well its saturday night and I am buggered - I made dh go out with Matt this day and I spring cleaned the house which is such a relief. It was driving me crazy. Tomorrow I just need to wash the floors and then I will be all organised. Hopefully this week Matt and I will get to the pool - I bought him some really cute board shorts to wear over his swimmer nappies. I bought him some really cute shirts during the week - one is blue and it says 'Lock up your daughters' and the other one is white and it sayd 'I'm bringing sexy back'. lol Its so cute. Cer I am starting to get really excited for you... its so close. I can't believe how everything is coming together now.... before it was bfp's and beans, now its full fledged babies and solids. God is good. xx

Morning girls, glad to hear all is well with everyone. Everyone's babies are getting cuter everyday! and getting so big. They really do grow up so fast. I can't believe you gals are talking about formula already. I think with you gals there could be a few more new arrivals next year! well i am off bedrest now so we are working on the nursery, hopefully the letters i ordered will arrive this week then we can finish it up and i can post some pics then. My doc is not concerned if i go into labour now, he didn't do another cervical check but he might in two weeks along with the group b strep test. He says watch i go right to 41 weeks now, i told him that isn't funny:) He says he won't let me go that far, that would be cruel. I asked him if i could be induced at 38 weeks if i don't go by then he just laughs and says he won't commit to that at the moment. Darn! i am so ready to have her already. I feel your pain cer, and i am only 34 weeks, you must be climbing the walls by now. It is getting harder to sleep at night and really hard to get comfortable, both sides ache when i sleep:( anyways talk to you all later who is going away for the thanksgiving holdiay? not a holiday up here in canada so same old same old.

Cons, where can I get those shirts?!? they sound soo cute!!! I love the sound of the "lock up your daughters" one, obviously Molly and Vienna's parents haven't seen it :) Yes, everything is coming together now, I can't believe it's been over a year since the 1st thread! Indeed God is Good. Our boys must be the hungriest babies on the thread, LOL! granted they are two of the older ones :) Joshua is already 18 weeks old! LB, yaaeee for being off bedrest! it must feel so good after being confined for so long. too bad that the hips have started to ache alot, bad news is that it may not let up till Ava arrives, good news is that it means your body is making room for the birthing process, which means it's gonna be coming soon! good luck with decorating the nursery, can't wait to see pictures! ttyl girls!

Waggzy the shirts are from cotton on kids but I am not sure if they have them where you are. If you cant you can email me your address and I can send you some - they are just so cute! Well I took my darling son to his first swimming lesson today and you should have seen him! He was so adorable... when I got him into the water he froze still and just looked around without moving his head, just darting eyes. After about 30 seconds he calmed down and then he LOVED IT!!! It was so cute, He was pedelling like man, and pedelled like mad for the whole lesson. Then You have 20 minutes to change them and feed them then its the mums workout session for an hour whilst the babies sleep and boy do they sleep. I was a little nervous about that part, because I know what he is like at home, but he was sooooooo exhausted! After I changed him and fed him, he popped his thumb in his mouth and his eyes rolled back into his head and he was out like a light. They have child minders there who will walk the prams around if the baby cries, but they rarely do. So I will be doing it every monday from now on. Matthew is grumbling so i better post this - i will come back later when he is asleep (or with his dad!) xxx

Hi girls! Cons, that swimming with your baby session sounds great. Matthew must have looked so cute! Waggzy, so are you thinking about actively trying again now or just see how things go? There is definitely a part of me that thinks you're all mad for thinking about #2 already but on the other hand I think it would be great for Matthew, Mira and Joshua to have a sibling that was close to their own age. So I'm looking forward to hearing about those bfps soon. LB, it's weird how much things can change in just a few short weeks, it seems like only yesterday you were only 24 weeks and worried about going into pre-term labour, now your 34 and wanting to meet your little girl. Hopefully your wait will be over soon, it would definitely be cruel to make you go past 40 weeks after what you've been through. On the other hand don't be too keen on getting induced. Chemically forced contractions hurt way worse than natural ones usually. Cer, hoping to hear good news from you real soon. As for me I got dh to take a couple of photos of me at the weekend but then deleted them. I looked awful and my bump hardly showed at all. Even dh said that I looked like a frump. Anyway I'm going to give it another go later in the week when I've got my self esteem back!

Hi girls. Cons, the swimming lessons sound great! I think I'd be nervous though. I'm a little scared of water myself. :) And the sleeping part - Yeah right, like Mira would just fall asleep. LOL. I think I'm finally accepting that it's not me - Mira just has a hard time falling asleep during the day. I've tried everything I can think of and she just cries and cries. So we're back to the swing. If it keeps her happy, I'll stay cooped up in the house for a while longer. What can I do? Waggzy, that is so exciting that Joshua's eating solids now. I can't wait to start Mira. How did he take to them? I'm sure it was pretty darn messy. :) Vicki, don't ever delete photos!! I never do, so I have millions of bad shots. LOL. I really want to see that belly though! Make Skate take more pictures TONIGHT! Please... :) Lynn, I certainly hope you don't go over 40 weeks. That would just be torture for you after all you've been through! I can't wait for Ava's arrival. This is so exciting! A big hello to all the other girls. I hope you're all doing well. So dh and I have done the deed a few more times... Last time I asked him to use a condom, as I've been having some cramps (who knows, could just be gas, but it could also mean I'm ovulating or af is coming). But... he said he didn't want to, and I said fine. LOL. He's definitely ready for another one, and I figure if it happens, it's meant to be. I really don't think it will though. I'm still breastfeeding (A LOT since Mira gets up all night long!), and I haven't gotten af yet. But I guess you never know. I sure would be shocked though. Actually, how would I even know? I don't know when af would be here, so I wouldn't know when to test. I guess I'd just figure it out when my symptoms showed up. I wonder if they'd be the same... My hormones are already wacky because of bfing. Huh. Oh well... I just hope if I get a bfp, one of you girls does too! It was so awesome to have you guys to go through it with. If you think about it, it really is amazing that we all met after our losses - which happened at about the same time - and all got pregnant again together. I feel so lucky to have you girls. :) Ok... I'm off to hop in the shower. I'll ttys!

Hi girls, cons swimming sounds like so much fun! and i am sure matthew is just loving it. He certainly sounds like he does. I can't wait til ava gets older and i can take her swimming, i certainly love the water, i must have been a fish in another lifetime! Waggzy has it been 18 weeks already? time goes so fast and josh must be growing like a weed. I definately think between you, cons and jess someone is bound to get a BFP soon, you are brave chicks i tell ya. Kiza, how are you holding up? i hope your son is doing better and healing well. How is that lap band working for you? Denise can't wait to hear of your warm trip when you get back. So jelous it's cold up here the last few days and a nice warm soak in the sun sounds like heaven. Mico, how is the pumping going? aiden must be about to have a growth spurt soon, how is he sleeping at night? Cer i havn't heard from you in a bit, how are you hanging in there? any signs of labour yet? it's funny that when we are ready to have our little one they seem to get real comfy and stay put. Liezel hope you arn't working too hard and resting as much as you can, Can you believe we only have a few short weeks to go? i wonder who will go first me or you? vicki i agree with jess don't delete the pics, i have a tonne of bad ones too but someday we will look back and think man i look tired but so grateful to have a miracle growing inside me. Besides we are our own worst critics. Can't wait to see some new pics. Jess i say just do what feels natural and normal for you and mira. If she loves her swing than i say go for it. She must have been rocked to sleep a lot in the womb and this feels comfy to her. I have your phone number so keep that phone charged in case i go into spontaneous labour and give you a call to update everyone. Ade, avery is so adorable and looks alot like you, he is growing fast too, sometimes it makes you just want to freeze time and just keep them tiny for a while longer. Feeling good today, just bored because everyone is at work and i can't drive anymore for now, well i havn't driven since i was on bedrest noone will let me, so i can't even go shopping. Bummer i guess still so much i have to get. Oh well i guess i will go read some instructions on using the car seat. Well talk to you all soon, take care Lynn

Hey girls, I am back from my trip with my Dad. It was great, he was in great form and the weather was just beautiful. It was really nice to get away, I truly needed the break away. Glad to hear everyone is hanging in there and all the baes inside and out are happy and healthy.
I did make a decision while away or more so when I came back and that is to leave behind all the pregnancy/fertility/ baby loss info. I read day in day out..not just on here but all over the internet. It is a constant reminder and a painful one at that. I am not in the same situation as you gals, I am 38 and some and my odds are slim. All the losses have effected everything in my life and I have to make an attempt to let it go and see what the fuure holds. I know I have said this before but this time it's for real. Thanks for all your support you are a great group of women. Cer, Liezel, Vicki and LB I wish all of you much love, luck and pure happiness with your babes...it is just
fantastic. Consy, Wagzy, Jess, Ade and Mico enjoy every day with your little blessings..it goes by so fast. Kitkat and Kiza thanks for all your support I know you two understand my situation more than anyone and it was nice to have you here. Much Love XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Denise

Just need to share - I had to cancel my tutoring this afternoon and just go to bed when Nando got home because I had a migraine. The last time I had a migraine was when Mira was conceived. The time before that was when my angel baby was conceived. We had sex yesterday... Holy crap!

We love you Denise. I hope the future holds everything you could ever dream of. Sending a big hug your way... :)

aaaaaargh my internet is not behaving itself very well today so I am just writing this in a document and then I will cut and paste it later. Jess you are so funny! But i am totally with you. Its rather bizarre really... I know when I went to to visit my friend Cath last week in hospital because she had her little girl I walked in feeling on top of the world because I have this mega mega cute baby who is all the goodness of babies without all the confusion of newborns.... and then I left completly green with envy! When she was in the last couple of weeks I had belly envy, but now i am full on green! lol I think its true what they say, you really do forget! I guess where we are, with babies that are more predictable and playful, it would be normal to want another asap because you know how much fun and gorgeous they can be. However, in the first couple of weeks where they just cry and scream and you have feeding problems and cracked nipples and no sleep you don't feel that way. ;-) Matthew is so unbelievably cute now, it almost makes me cry when I think about it. I was telling dh last night how its funny how much you can enjoy a little baby, and I was saying that when I took him swimming yesterday, although it probably wouldn't have been the most exciting moment of my life, it would have been in the top three. A swimming lesson?? But just to watch his little legs pedel in the water, and see him grinning from ear to ear with all the songs and dancing you do.. It was just so fun. So Jess I am with you.... although I am on the pill and I have a husband that watches me take it like a hawk because he knows that I am likely to stop taking it on not tell him lol he knows me too well!!! But I have managed to get him down to July next year as a potential ttc time. My brothers are 18 months apart and they are such good friends, and mum said that although the first couple of months of adams life (number 2) was tough because James was still in nappies and feeding in the night, she looks back and can say quite honestly it was the best time of her life. But I am sure we are still nuts! Well my mother in law gets here in 2 weeks and I am starting to get anxious. It is such a shame, we always got along so well before I had Matthew, but then when she moved in virtually with the cover of 'helping me out' but not actually helping, just holding matthew nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon stop, that kinda ruined it. I look back now and I get SOOOOO mad, because she knew I have a terrible birth and that I was having trouble bonding, and that I couldn't do any cooking or housework or anything like that. But when I look back now I have images of me wincing in pain as I mopped the floors because the child health nurse was coming out in the morning and the house looked like a bomb. And of her spending all freaking day for a week holding Matthew and just giving him to me when it was time for a feed. So now I have all these issues and I am not sure what I can do. I have spoken to dj a bit about it, but thats a tough one, because he is her son, like Matthew is mine, and I would hate Matthew to marry someone who bitched about me, but at the same time I think I am going to find the 5 weeks tough. Whenever I think about it, my heart siezes, and I really feel as though she is going to take him away. ;-( I gotta sort it out though, because there is no point dragging everything out. But this time I am going to make sure it doesn't happen. But i am really messed up about it... even picturing her holding him makes me want to cry... shit man I got to figure it all out. Oh dear....
Oh Denise my love goes out to you. You just do what makes you and your family happy, and hopefully we will run into each other one day. xxxxx

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haha go to a test you naughty girl!! I will be so green with envy I will look like the incredible hulk lol!!!!!!!!