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Karyn, Question About Positive ANA
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renee - several of my friends have had premature babies, and i think that if the baby is born after about 32 weeks, its chances are great these days. i have read in some places that doctors like to take patients off aspirin sometime before delivery , but i can't remember exactly when. i think it was because you don't want blood too thin at that point, but i'm not sure. and kim - i'm not sure about the tests you took, but i know they should at least test for antiphosphilid antibodies (apa) after two miscarriages - they are a known clotting factor and sometimes overlap with ana. other things my drs test for are lupus coagulants, anti-ro antibodies and complements. good luck to both of you, and congratulations, renee on making it so far! |
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kim - i should have said lupus *anti*coagulant above. i checked my notes and the rheumi said other antibodies of concern in pregnancy (in addition to the antiphosphilids and anti-Ro) are anticardiolipin antibodies and anti-SSB and SSA antibodies. Good luck!!! |
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Lenore- My ANA has no indication of diease and my dr. does not think that it is contributing to my MC's. I have lost the baby since my last post. I was placed on an asprin a day. It was twins again and I knew that I had lost one by the 5th week and lost the other at 9 1/2 weeks. I had to carry the baby for a week before the doctor performed a D&C. It was a nightmare that I couldn't wake up from. I still had morning sickness and everything else that came with a healthly pregnancy. Dr. thought it might be a molar pregnancy and has to wake abnother week to find out it wasn't. I am getting back on my feet but am extremely enemic and very weak becuase I lost more than 2 pints of blood during the D&C. Believe or not I still hold out hope that one day I might be blessed with a healthy baby. I need time to heal mentally and physically. Not sure what I am going to do in the end. I am still not sure if it the the ANA or not. But I have had more than one dr. tell me it is not since I have had previous children. Hope this helps. Shannon |
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shannon - i'm so sorry for your loss. i feel terribly for you. it seems most of us have had miscarriages, and it's the hardest thing. the only thing that helped me was to literally count my blessings every day until i felt stronger. as for the ANA, i wonder if maybe it developed after your pregnancy that came to term. anyway, i hope you feel better soon and that your test results for the molar pregnancy come back okay. i'll be thinking of you.... |
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hi katherine, i just read your post above. i totally have the same problem with birth control! my doctors said some people are sensitive to estrogen and i wondered if that was what made me so achy when i was pregnant. do you suppose there's a link to ANA? |
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Jenny: Thanks for your reply--I am just getting used to how to use this site. I actually have ANA 1:640 (3 weeks ago) and 1:80 (2 weeks ago) reading and MAY be pregnant...won't know for another week. (have had 2 mc's) R/e said no to aspirin but when pushed she suggested talking to perinatologist and to get a more robust workup with Rheumi. I am negative for Lupus anticoag and any other Lupus related disorders. I hope to get an appt soon. Until I saw this website never knew ANA could have a relation to my m/c's. So much for my Harvard doc's (both r/e and o/b) THANKS!! |
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hi kim - re: a link between ANA and miscarriage, who knows if it exists? there seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence, but the studies seem split. most say it's not statistically significant, which is why the drs say no treatment. but i've noticed that most of those studies are of women with *low* ANAs (1:80 or less), not higher. higher ANAs tend to be associated with autoimmune issues in general. i know that with IVF, for example, having an ANA makes it less likely that the procedure will work in the first run. why? who knows. i think its a relatively new area of research. it could be that because ANAs are such a wide net, meaning they represent autoimmunity to a wide number of antigens, some of which are still not understood, that they will eventually identify more autoantibodies associated with ANA that cause miscarriage (not just APAs) - but maybe not everyone with ANA has those? i'm not a dr, just speculating.... |
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Hi, I was looking up online, ANA Postive with early pregnancy effects and found this, I found out I was pregnant on Friday Oct 21, and then miscarring on the 25th (my birthday of all days) In march of this year I became very ill .... my ANA was positive. I have vasulitis too my rheumatologist isn't sure it's lupus. |
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Jenny- Thanks for the response regarding premies. I am going to get induced early but I haven't asked how early yet. I'm just trying to live day to day at this point (21 weeks). I saw Marni's response on 9/1 saying that she was 37 weeks along and clotting due to the ANA was obviously no longer an issue. I hadn't heard that patients with +ANA ever get to a point where they are safe from clotting/ misscarriage/ stillbirth? Shannon-- I have had one successful pregnancy too (daughter is almost 3 now) but found out early this year about my +ANA. All of my other Lupus tests etc came back negative. I have been told by a couple doctors that Lupus most often developes in women during their reproductive years. Based on this, I'm wondering if maybe my +ANA (and yours) developed in the last couple years since giving birth to our daughter. It seems possible. |
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hi renee, yeah, i read that too. i assume she meant that she was past the worst part where clotting could cause the baby not to grow properly. by that time, the baby would be pretty much formed and could be delivered if any problems developed. i think drs worry about women having blood that won't clot (if they're on meds) during delivery. all pregnant women develop a stronger clotting mechanism so if they're subject to injury/trauma they'll do better, and it reduces the risk of bleeding too much in delivery. but our perfect biology is not so perfect for those of us with extra clotting tendencies! anyway, i have a great feeling for you. you've gone so far already! i hope you're feeling well. let me know how it goes. |
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Jenny, |
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Congrats Kim!!! I hope everything goes better for you this time around.I had an ANA of 1:320 and a missed mc about a year ago.My ob sent me to a rheumi for testing,and thankfully they didn't find anything else other than the positive ANA. |
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hi kim - i'm so glad for you about the pregnancy! sorry i didn't see this post until today. what did you decide to do? i don't know what i'd do. my obs/rheumi/perinatologist all said no. but i wondered at the time if maybe aspirin would at least give me peace of mind? the perinatologist did say aspirin was okay, just not what they'd do/recommend with an ANA. they recommended fish oil capsules - i guess they do to all their patients, because research shows the omega-3s have benefits in pregnancy - and in my case, it'd also be anti-inflammatory. anyway, i know how you feel. let me know what you decide and how it goes! |
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Cathy- It looks like we must have similar due dates. I am also feeling baby's movements which is so wonderful and I say little "thank you prayers" everytime they happen. Are you staying on baby aspirin all the way through your pregnancy? That is my plan, as instructed by my OB and also my primary care physician. I'm hoping to get into a high-risk OB later this month to see if they agree with my doctor's treatment. Are you planning to get induced early? |
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Hi, I haven't written in awhile but am now trying to conceiveand may be pregnant but too early to know. I made an appt with a perinatologist tomorrow to discuss the risks and treatment for the next pregnancy. I'll write after and share the info. Idecided to start taking baby aspirin about 3 weeks ago even though I wasn't pregnant but didn't think it would hurt. Does anyone know about taking aspirin prior to conception or are on it while trying? Also I heard that if been on blood thinners during pregnancy you cannot get an epidural. is this true? Also it sems to me after reading most everyone;s responses that we all tend to miscarry between 8-10 weeks. It doesnt seem like a coincidence considering we all are positive for ANA? Also it is strange how it seems the ANA goes down after the miscarriage. My rheumatologist said that she believes the prgnancy exacerbates the condition. When I asked her for her advice about treatment she wasnt that clear or sure so i am going to see tthe perinatologist tomorrow. |
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