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Aspen - sounds great! Maybe this will be your ticket!

JayJaysmom - I work FT and have a 30 minute commute, plus the drop-off/pick-up time on the 3 days my dd goes to daycare. My MIL keeps her 2 days at my house which is great! I don't get much accomplished after work, basically try to play with my dd, get us fed somehow (usually not a nutritionally as we should) and clean. Kind of feel like I just survive - I am looking forward to the 1st trimester blahs to move out of here.

I guess this is all preparation for having 2 in the house - I'll probably never get to shave again. Ha Ha

I asked for an electric razor last year for my birthday. :-)

TRYING - LOL! Yeah, everyone else is definitely NOT as aware of ovulation dates as we are. Remember being blissfully ignorant of such things? Those were the days, huh? Although, truthfully, I wish I'd known as a young'un everything I know now about how my body works.

KRISSY - I don't even know where to start, babe. First of all, I'm sorry to hear that you got more bad news. I know how much every little piece of it hurts. Having said that...I second what Kristin said. Fertility doctors are BUSINESSMEN. They make money when they give you fertility treatments. I think most of them are ethical enough not to push tooooooo hard and too fast, but they can't help but be biased.

You DO have a lot going on. I'm not minimizing that. But it's way too early to throw in the towel hon. 8.4 is NOT a hideous number. Remember the book I keep talking about? Written by Julia Indichova? Her FSH was something like 23 (!) the month she conceived her daughter at 43 years old. 8.4?!??!?! Pffft. There are stories all over the internet of women who conceived with 8.4.

Now...question - what do they want to do the Lap/Hysteroscopy for before the IUI? Is it to check to make sure that your ovaries aren't covered w/ endometrial tissue and/or to open your blocked tube? Do you know whether or not the endometriosis is bad enough to block the egg from getting to the tube? If you know you can ovulate and get the egg to the tube, you don't really HAAAAVE to clear the blocked tube to try IUI. You could opt to just wait for a cycle where your follicles are developing on the side with the open tube. And if your doctor won't work with you on that - NOT charging on day 1 for the entire cycle (which is completely unreasonable in my opinion) - I'd be tempted to go elsewhere.

Lastly, the numbers you quoted for the meds for an IUI cycle sound like the shots. Yes? Is it worth it to try clomid or femara with IUI first? Did you respond well to clomid?

Oh - I lied..that wasn't the last thing. Whatever you do, I think you should spring for the semen analysis. If there are too many problems there it might help you decide if IUIs are worth it or not.

KRISTIN - Yep, I noticed that I could double check the lines with the digital tests. That's sort of nifty. I wish I'd thought of buying them on Ebay months and months ago. I used to pay $20 for 10 regular tests at Costco. I bought my last digitals on Ebay for $14 for 7 digital tests. I think you can do even better if you're patient enough to wait for the right bargain. When is your vacation?

I have no idea what the right answer to your question is but it just doesn't seem right to me to change your EDD based on size when you know damn good and well when you ovulated. As Trying just pointed out - we're a pretty savvy bunch where that's concerned.

How are you feeling these days?

BABYKISS - I was totally impressed with my left ovary, let me tell ya! Lol. 28.5mm immediately before ovulation. That's one hard-workin' ovary, huh? :-) I was still early this month, but held off until cd12 this time, which is only one day earlier than my normal. I know you don't want to put a lot of personal information but just generally - it sounds like you've been around this ttc'ing block a good number of times. Yes?

JAYJAYSMOM - You can imagine how tired you'll be WHEN you get a sticky one!!!! It's gonna happen for you. It is! So there! :-) You really cracked me up when you said you'd bd'd enough this month to feel like you ought to get paid. I said almost exactly the same thing to hubby last night. The funny thing is, and this might be TMI, but hubby is LOVING the Femara. Seems Femara has a nifty little side effect for me: It makes me want to attack my husband. We couldn't act on it the last few days before the IUI but SINCE then is an entirely different story! Oh my. If it doesn't stop soon, he'll be beggin for mercy. I feel downright naughty!

Oh..and don't worry...we're not going anywhere. Things just get quiet every now and then and then we start chattering like school girls again.

MY UPDATE - Don't really have anything new to report. I'm off to book airfare for a quick trip to Tampa to see my sons by another mother. Can't wait. OH! How's this for "I'm gonna kill my husband" stuff? He just made reservations for the two of us and two of our best friends to attend a wine-tasting dinner at a great local fine-dining Italian restaurant on 3/12. My IUI was on 3/3. Anyone see the problem?!?!?!?!? Grrrrrrr. I really am gonna kill him...right after I...uh...do other things....

Wow, with this website's new format, I took up almost a whole page. Somebody really ought to figure out how to shup me up!

Hey ladies I am trying to figure out this new page that they have set up I really don't like but I guess I will get use to it. First I want to thank each one of you who took time to comfort me and I have had my cry for the past 2 days and here is my update. First I am currently on cd 13 and I am only taking my temp. I didn't go out and buy any opks and I will not. I am trying to bd since cd 10 I will keep you posted my temp did go up some today so I guess that is good. Now on to the good stuff. I called the RE yesterday and talk to the financial consultant and I told her that I will not be doing a IVF because I can't afford it and I am not going to lie and say oh sure I can find the money. I told her I will be doing the IUI because at least the insurance will pay 50% and she agreed with me. I still have to have my fiance do his stuff the Male fertility testing that will be $240 and the SA that will be $140 but they didn't give me a time line on that. I have to have more blood work and I can have that done anytime as well and that will be free as long as I go to my lab that the insurance company is contracted with. I have to have a laparoscopy with the hysteroscopy and that will cost me $650 and I have to pay for the anesthesia and that will cost me $525 I then asked her before we moved to the next step could I make payment plans until I have the procedure paid in full and she said yes I will be sending in money tomorrow and I should have enough to cover the anesthesia and I should have the rest of the money by April 3 so if you ladies don't mind please pray for me I figure if I have this procedure done then I will know once and for all what the heck is really going on inside I know I have the blocked left tube and I have fibroids and I have scar tissues so maybe I just might need to be cleaned out. I will be trying naturally after I heal I am not telling them this so I might try and get some clomid if any of you ladies have any extra. I was also thinking I called my family dr and gyn dr and asked them did they do that procedure and they both said no that they refer you to a speacialist so isn't that what I am seeing so I am thinking if she code it right I might not have to pay. She was suppose to be doing my referal yesterday after we got off the phone. I tried to email her but it came back undelivered so I sent it the nurse and asked her to pass it to her so I am hoping that this work. I will keep you all updated. Take care and I will talk to you soon. Krissy68

Aspen8 - You are right the medicine will cost between $1,500 - $2,000 and that is not covered by the insurance and yes the lap/hysteroscopy will tell them what the heck is going on I already know I have scar tissue and I think that might just be the problem. Good Luck to you and I am keeping everything cross. Krissy68

KRISSY - So you're going to schedule your lap for early April? Is that the plan? Hopefully at that point you'll already have the semen analysis results too and then you'll have a much clearer picture of where you stand. Hang in there, girl. We're all pulling for you.

MY UPDATE - My temperature took that weird 3dpo nosedive again this month. Remember last cycle I thought I was going to have a 3 day luteal phase? It did the exact same thing this morning, almost to the exact same number. It must have something to do with the Femara somehow. I'm going to try not to worry about it. Last cycle my luteal phase ended up being 18 days, which is plenty long. The next time I see my RE I'll have to ask him about it.

Hope everyone is doing well.

woh! thought I landed unto another board. Interesting new format.

Hi ladies. I'm going to try and read up on you all now.

Okay I'm reading from the bottom up.

Aspen that 3dpo nosedive is what they call a second estrogen surge. It's perfectly normal.

Krissy, thoughts and prayers on your way. I'm sure they'll clean you out just fine and you'll be on your way with lots of babydust!

LOL, Aspen, no don't shut up, we enjoy your happy, cheery posts.

A little bit of wine is okay...you're funny.

....o, and let's just say I've researched the net to its gory deaths....that and my own personal experiences, lol..

Aspen8 - Yes that is the plan I will have the surgery and he will have the SA done as well. I think that will really help me out. I am sending in my first payment today but I did ask the question about seeing if my insurance will pay for it and I just pay the copay of $100. I will keep you posted. Keeping my fingers cross for you this cycle.

mannoulla - Thank you for the Prayers because girlfriend you know I need them. Have a very nice weekend. Krissy68

BABYKISS - You know, I read about secondary estrogen surges somewhere once and have wondered if that's what was going on. It seemed so drastic last month that I discounted the idea...didn't think it would make my temperature swing THAT wildly. But it's even more dramatic this month. 97.7 2dpo, 97.2 3dpo, and 97.9 4dpo. I guess I'm gonna quit worrying about it...even if it does make my chart ugly...which I hate...cuz you know it's all about having a textbook, pretty chart. Lol.

KRISSY - This might sound strange, but I'm excited for you to have your surgery and find out once and for all what's going on and where you stand. I just don't believe that your journey is over yet. I still think you're going to end up with that baby you want - and the surgery could be just what you need to get there.

EVERYONE - Have a great weekend. I might not be around tomorrow. Busy,busy, busy. I might force myself not to turn the 'puter on so I won't get distracted. Lots of baby dust to all!

Hello Everyone! Things have been crazy at work as everyone is worried about the economy, so I have been working extra hard lately. I have been trying to keep up with reading, but I have slipped behind. I wanted to make sure I wished everyone LOTS of LUCK this month!!!!! Everything here is fine. Baby Dust!!

Ok just loving the two week wait NOT. I am cd 21, dpo 6 and cannot wait until next weekend. I just don't know how some of you have done this for sooo long.God bless you. If I get AF, then I am going to see if by OB will draw some bloodwork to just know if I am even hormonally still able to get a positive HPT. Have any of you got a positive OPK then confirmed it with a positive HPT?

Hi jayjaysmom and everyone else... I have been reading all your journeys for a while and since we are so close I thought it is time for me to join in... I am 38 and trying for my third for over a year... Tried clomid but it did not work and my doctor refuses to trigger my ovulation because he is scared of multiples... so this month I am going all natural with herbs and vitamins... Anyway, today is CD20, 5dpo for me and the 2ww always kills me and I start testing form 10dpo and the disappointments of BFN is taking a toll on me... so if you dont mind I would like to wait with you... any symptoms today?!? Sticky dusts to all of us TTCing this forum!!!

JULIA - I hear you about working harder than usual because of the economy. We're in the same boat. Other than that, I'm glad to hear you're doing well.

JAYJAYSMOM - We're still shadowing each other. I'm 6dpo too. The 2ww completely stinks. I can't believe that this is my 14th cycle ttc. And I REALLY can't believe how long everyone waited to check hubby's sperm. If we'd known about his issues earlier it would have changed A LOT about how we used our time the last 13 1/2 months! I think you're wise to have some blood work done. But I bet you're fine.

HOPING - Welcome! Do you have PCOS? Is that what you mean when you say that clomid didn't work? You had follicles on clomid but never ovulated? I've read Femara works for some women in that situation when Clomid doesn't. Have you ever tried Femara? How many mature follicles did you have that made your doctor afraid of multiples? Are YOU afraid of multiples? I'm just full of questions, aren't I? Lol.

MY UPDATE - As I said earlier, I'm 6dpo today. Just holding steady, trying to pretend that I'm not obsessing this month. I know how bad the statistical chances are for success for us for any given month so I have to be realistic. But I have to admit I'm starting to feel an immense impatience with this whole process. I think it has to do with crossing that 12-month threshold. Last month didn't really count in a way because I was pretty sure our first IUI was too late. So it'll be this month, cycle 14, where I realize that I'm heading firmly into year two of ttc. Once I wrap my head around that and get used to it, I'll be fine. But in the meantime it kind of sucks. I just wanna be pregnant, darn it! Lol.

Have a good week everyone.