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JULIA - I hear you about working harder than usual because of the economy. We're in the same boat. Other than that, I'm glad to hear you're doing well.

JAYJAYSMOM - We're still shadowing each other. I'm 6dpo too. The 2ww completely stinks. I can't believe that this is my 14th cycle ttc. And I REALLY can't believe how long everyone waited to check hubby's sperm. If we'd known about his issues earlier it would have changed A LOT about how we used our time the last 13 1/2 months! I think you're wise to have some blood work done. But I bet you're fine.

HOPING - Welcome! Do you have PCOS? Is that what you mean when you say that clomid didn't work? You had follicles on clomid but never ovulated? I've read Femara works for some women in that situation when Clomid doesn't. Have you ever tried Femara? How many mature follicles did you have that made your doctor afraid of multiples? Are YOU afraid of multiples? I'm just full of questions, aren't I? Lol.

MY UPDATE - As I said earlier, I'm 6dpo today. Just holding steady, trying to pretend that I'm not obsessing this month. I know how bad the statistical chances are for success for us for any given month so I have to be realistic. But I have to admit I'm starting to feel an immense impatience with this whole process. I think it has to do with crossing that 12-month threshold. Last month didn't really count in a way because I was pretty sure our first IUI was too late. So it'll be this month, cycle 14, where I realize that I'm heading firmly into year two of ttc. Once I wrap my head around that and get used to it, I'll be fine. But in the meantime it kind of sucks. I just wanna be pregnant, darn it! Lol.

Have a good week everyone.

Aspen, no I do not have PCOS. I always thought I ovulated fine because AF always showed up every 28 days, but because of my age and because I did not get pregnant within 6 mths of trying my dr said I could take clomid. I took it for 6 months, the first 3 months I took cd1-5. At that point we were not checking the follicles around ovulation. Then during the last 3 months we tried IUI so we changed to cd5-9, checking the follicles around ovulation. Last month the biggest follicles got to 2.5 and the second biggest 1.1 and that was it but the biggest one never triggered and I did not ovulate... I am not sure what my doctor is scared about, I would love twins and I there were no more than two follicles last month... I should see an RE but my insurance does not cover it so I have been holding on to hope before we use our life's savings to have our bundle of joy!!! Sorry for writing so much, but it actually makes me feel better to share... baby dusts to all of us this month!!!

CD7 and using OPK's because they expire in a few days anyway! So far no signs of a second line. On fertility friend there are many positive OPK's correlated with HPT positives, so I thought what the heck. No symptoms, but i never had symptoms until I was about 7 or 8 weeks in my previous pregnancies and that was only tender bb's. I wish that when a women conceived she knew instantly, I wonder if our granddaughters will?? I have 5 hpts in this house and holding out til at least friday, dpo 11. Praying for one of us to pop a positive !!!!

Aspen8 - Thank you and I was thinking the same thing once he get in there and clean up my inside I should be able to get pregnant hopefully naturally. I am keeping you in my prayers and I hope this IUI works for you and I am right before you in the two year ttc and my age is really getting to me. Hang in there girlfriend.

JuliaB - How are you doing? I know what you mean about working extra hard I am doing the same thing as well as trying to find another job to help out but it is real hard right about now.

jayjaysmom - Good Luck to you this cycle I am keeping my fingers cross for you and saying a prayer. I know some of the ladies have used the opk as a hpt I have done this as well but I have learned my lesson from using the opk as a hpt I have in the pass gotten a bfp on the opk only to have AF play a trick on me and show up so I have promise myself I will just use the hpt. Try and wait a few more days before testing.

hoping4baby3 - Welcome to the group. As you know we know exactly what you are going through in the 2ww all I can say is try and stay positive and keep your faith. Hang in there!! Keeping my fingers cross for you. Krissy68

Hey ladies I just wanted to give you all a quick update on me. Well I had decided I wasn't going to get any opk this time and around and just bd whenever but I am still taking my temp every day at the same time. Well guess what I ovulated on Friday (3/6)I was cd 14 I knew something was up because I started having real bad ovualtion pain and I haven't felt this in some time I use to feel it all the time when I was taking clomid. We did bd on cd 8,10,12-17. As of today I am on cd 17 3dpo. I am trying not to think about it and just hope for the best. Also on 3/6 I sent in my first payment to pay for my copay for the surgery and she called me today and told me she received it and that she will be doing my referal to the insurance company and hopefully they will pay more since my gyn and ob will not perform the surgery. Please ladies say a prayer for me and I will keep you all updated. Krissy68

Hello Everyone. I have finally figured out that I have been staying away because I have been distancing myself from this process for a while. This being less obsessed is nice. If I did get af last Tuesday/Wednesday, we completely missed our chance. We only covered cd 8 and 12. Since I ov on cd11, I am not holding my breath this month. Kinda liberating fooling around just because we really want to and not because of the date. I can't be sure of af date since it was only 1 week after the d&c that she seemed to show up, but I am still spotting (13 days in). My dr said its possible it was af, but I expect to have a better sense next month (if this one ever ends).

I hope everyone is well, and PLEASE try not to obsess too much. It really does make no difference! At all!

And remember, Spring is around the corner, which makes everything better! I can't wait! I did not really enjoy the nice weather last year during the "specialist era," so I am trying to make up for it now.

Hi ladies! I have a check-up today. I get anxious that something will be wrong - just want to hear that heart beat, ya know!

JuliaB - understand your distance. I did the same thing after my 2nd m/c...even had trouble coming back in the beginning of my 3rd pg because of the bad things you can read and learn to worry about too! Obsessing is an easy thing to fall into and a hard thing to get out of!

Just as encouragement...so far this pg has been "normal"...so weird. No progesterone, no thyroid medication, not extra doctor visits, etc... Even at "our age" things can be "normal"... Now, I just have to keep myself from obsessing over the normality of it all!

Another note...one of my specialist after my 2nd m/c said EVERYONE should wait 6 months after a m/c in order for their cervix to be completely back to normal and full able to support another pg. Just a thought - hard to do at our age, but I did after each one...just in case I got a "good bean"...sure didn't want my cervix to be the problem.

HOPING - Don't apologize for writing a lot. That's what we're here for. Besides, have you gotten a load of some of my posts?!?!?!? LOL. Your follicles were 2.5 cm and 1.1 cm? I'm surprised the 25mm one at least didn't ovulate. Did the doctor do blood work during the luteal phase to confirm that there was no ovulation? I think it's nuts that your doctor won't trigger. With only 2 follicles, and one small enough that chances are it only contained an immature egg, I don't see much risk of multiples...and as you said, it would only be twins if you GOT multiples and I don't know many people desperate to get pregnant who would turn down twins. I'd be jumping (carefully of course) for joy! Lol. I'd have to revisit that subject with him if I were you. And maybe change OB/GYNs if he didn't have a change of heart. It's a shame that your insurance won't cover seeing an RE.

JAYJAYSMOM - Maybe they'll develop a new test that will measure something they haven't even discovered yet so women 25 years from now will be able to test for conception right away and if there's no fertilized egg, maybe they'll be able to do something to speed up the second half of the cycle so the 2ww before the next attempt is shorter. I'd love that. That would be great for older women...more chances more quickly while the clock is ticking.

KRISSY - Sounds like things are really moving along towards your surgery and everything. I'm happy to hear that. I'm hanging in here. I'm not going to give up until I stop having AFs! (Either due to pregnancy or menopause.) I still think that both of us are going to make it. I do. I just wish it would happen NOW! Lol.

JULIA - You're right, of course. Obsessing doesn't help at all. It just steals time and enjoyment from the rest of your life. The trick of course, is to find the balance point. I've wondered if this process would be easier if I quit coming here and investing the time it takes to read and post and in a way (time wise) it would be a relief to have one less thing to do. But I think about everyone here often and I think I'd really miss touching base and reading updates. I think the right "balance point" is different for all of us. We love hearing from you - whenever you feel like coming. And when you're away, we're happy too knowing that you're doing what's best for Julia. I AM going to enjoy Spring this year! And I can't WAIT!!!!

TRYING - Thanks for the encouraging perspective. It's wonderful to read success stories, especially when they're so....normal. Good luck with your check up today. Let us know how it went.

MY UPDATE - Nothing new. Just waiting. Gotta love it.

JuliaB - How are you doing? Good Luck to you this cycle you never know. I know what you mean about all this obsession and this cycle I didn't run out and buy any opk and I didn't take any OTC medicine. The only thing I am doing is taking my temp so that way I know whe AF will be here cause it never fails when my temp start dropping then AF will be ringing my door bell. We did bd because he was really in the mood I was like whatever it didn't really matter to me one way or the other. Take care.

tryingx3 - How are you doing? Have you had the doctor's appointment yet? Relax and everything will be fine and please let us know as soon as you can. Rub your belly for me.

Aspen8 - I'm feeling much better thanks for asking. How are you doing? I know I am still at the beginning of this process but to me at least it is a start and I will be taking the baby steps to acheive my goals. I know the RE office sent my referal off yesterday well I hope so she said she would do it yesterday in the afternoon and if she didn't get to it then first this this morning either way it goes I have to wait about 5 days to know what is what I am hoping the insurance will pay 100% but I will even take 50%. Please say a prayer for me. What cd are you on? I'm on cd 18/4dpo and just hanging out not really thinking or doing anything. I just know I had AF on 2/21 so I figure that AF should show up betweein 3/20- 3/22 but fertility friend said 3/21 and I can take the hpt on 3/22 now if I do take the hpt I will more then likely take it on 3/21 if my temp are still above the cover line.Take care. Krissy68

As for belly rubbing - there was plenty in my appointment. I have a SPEED RACER in there - we found the hb immediately (thank goodness) but it was there and GONE...It took another 10-15 minutes (seemed like FOREVER) for her to find it again and get a good measurement on it. It came back at 144 this time.

We go back on 4/13 for a check-up and sneak peek for gender.

tryingx3 - YaY I am so happy for you!!!! I know this made you feel real happy. Krissy68

KRISSY - I'm good, thanks. I'm 7dpo today. If my luteal phase is my normal 15 days, AF would be due on 3/19 or if it's 18 days again because of the Femara, it would be due on 3/22. I'm trying not to think about it that much. (Ha ha ha)

TRYING - YAY!!!! It must have felt so wonderful to get that heartbeat. And in just about a month you'll know if you're having a little girl or a little boy. How exciting. I'm glad it went well yesterday. Maybe it'll be easier to relax now? Hmmm....easier said than done, huh?

Aspen8 - I know what you mean I am not thinking about it either we are real close to each other this cycle. Keep me posted. Krissy68

Hi girls, wow I have been gone quite awhile, took me so long to read everyones progress. As for me I am now 16 weeks, I had the flu for the whole month of February, it turned into a sinus infection and bronchitis, I started feeling better last week, I also have Chrohns disease and it has flared up probably because of the flu, the doc has put me on pregnisone therapy hopefully it works. Well we tied the knot on Feb 21 and everything went great, although we did get a snowstorm in the evening, and some people had to leave the reception a little earlier for the drive home, we had a wonderful day. I had my prenatal screening, I am awaiting the results now however when I had the ultrasound the doc said nt was 1.8 and no sign of downs and the baby measured exactly the right size according to the due date. We heard the babys heartbeat on Feb 27th that was great. I am wishing you all the best of luck this month and will rub my belly for you allxo

JERSSLEA - CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! Do you feel like an old married lady now? Lol. Congratulations also on the great ultasound results. Let us know when you get the results of your screening. I bet they'll be great. I'm sorry you were so sick for so long. That stinks. But I'm happy that you're getting back to your old self. Thanks for the update!

KRISSY - :-)

MY UPDATE - 9dpo and my temperature is doing wacky, erratic things. I'm wondering if the battery in my thermometer is going bad. Although....if I repeat my temperature taking process immediately after the first time, I get a number that's close to the first one. So maybe it's not that. Who knows. The expensive wine-tasting dinner my husband signed us up for is tonight. I asked my RE and he said that if I literally *taste* each kind (3-4) it won't hurt. Makes me nervous, but I've been hearing that from a lot of people lately. Haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.

Hey...is this when Kristin is on vacation? I miss her posts. Hope she's having a good time.

Aspen - yes, worrying less is easier said than done...although easier with a 2 year old than it was the 1st time...

Jesslea - Oh MY! What a month - you will never forget all of that! A little too eventful with all the sickness and snow storm! Best wishes with the Crohn's treatment, I know that must be a struggle as well!

Aspen - a taste of 3-4 sounds okay to me too, but what do I know! Maybe you can just do the wave the glass under your nose test... :-) I guess you are probably the DD.