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Hi Lastchance. I feel your frustration. Since I've been off BC, my cycles were 28, 28, 26,27,25. I'm now on CD 16, and no ovulation yet. Last cycle I thouth i o'd on the Saturday, but on Monday I felt ovulation-like pains. The next Wednesday (cd 25), af started. Which makes me think even though the egg might have fertilised, there wasn't enough time for implantation. I've used OPK's religiously, but nothing. I'd even be grateful for a sore boob right now! lol From Tuesday this week I've felt a very sudden and severe depression, which makes no sense. When I can muster the energy, I want to look up on why this change, I'll let you know. Do you know if you are actually ovulating - maybe I am, just later than I'm supposed to.

The really strange thing is I have been watching CM and CP.... not charting temp ( I do at night, but that doesn't count)... and today my CM stretched a whole inch! Its only CD7! Maybe I am O-ing earlier than normal.... but I thought I was O-ing around CD12-16.... So either my cycle got screwed or I have been missing ovulation.. but I am pretty sure the cm was ripe, and cp was perfect at the right time last month...

Well, I've also checked my CM, and CP, most of the time, and since yesterday, it looks EW, but not a lot of it. So maybe I'm just a late o'er. We've decided to only have a doctor check in after a few months ttc with no success. Women differ, and maybe this is just how it is for us, nothing to get alarmed about. Meanwhile, I have terrible moodswings, which is new to me. Well, if cycle is 25 days, af is due on 22, so we'll see. (And that is sooo sad, because that will be when dh and I are on a romantic break to a game farm, and af normally spoils the mood for me! lol)

I am almost frustrated with checking symptoms at this point... The symptoms line up but I still wonder if I missed it... CM, CP, O-twinges, tight breasts, and I have a huge upward surge in sex drive the day that I have been assuming is ovulation, also I notice that sex feel better on the day that (all the symptoms would suggest) ovulation should occur...

Strange thing is, yesterday (CD7) I had CM that stretched and was white..... but assumed it was too early to ovulate... but now I (CD8) I checked the CM and its gone from sticky and stretchy to wet and clear... lots of it... I am cramping... I wonder if AF could come 2 weeks in a row... she just left a few days ago... how could she be on her way already? (we have not tried this cycle)