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7 posts on this thread and the last post was on August 5th, 2009 11:56 AM
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pfletcer04167 - July 16th, 2009 6:46 AM
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i have been with my girlfriend for 5 months now, 3 of which she has been pregnant. But i am suspicious cos i used condom, she asked me not to and she will go on pill, 2 weeks later to my shock she is pregnant. Am i just one of those 99/1 unlucky ones. Anyway, i just dont want to be a Dad, been through alot recently and dont think i could cope as not strong. She wont have abortion. Now it seems all we do is argue, she lives with her 9yr old son, and i see her most nights, but now she asked me to stop coming down as much, and said she sees me more as a freind ?!?!? i am gutted and dont know what to do. She said its over, and i cant handle the rejection and not sure if she means it. Not even 100% sure its mine as not known her long enough, but she insist it is, but i have resentment towards her for getting pregnant, she knew from the start i didnt want that. Now shes pushing me away - one side of me thinks great, forget about her and move and pretend it never happened, but another side wants to be with her, eventhough she is totally abusive verbally and pulls me down, She still drinks wine, nearly a bottle a night and shes 3/4 months gone. I dreaded being in this position and just wish i could turn back the clock. Someone please advise. Do i need to be strong and be a man an be supportive, or have i got a right to be dissapointed in her for allowing herself to get pregnent, and can i walk away knowing there is possible my baby out there somewhere. I dont like the idea of paying 18 years maintaince either. I am messed up and need help before i go back on the drink bigtime !





missarose22 - July 8th, 2009 2:50 PM

So you used condoms and then you stopped and two weeks later you found out she was pregnant? I don't think it's possible for her to know she is pregnant at only two weeks. I'm not sure her body would have registered enough of the hormone to tell her. To me it seems a little weird that she would ask you to not where a condom and them bam she's pregnant. Do you know for sure how far along she is? I would get an ultra sound picture that will tell you on it. The worst reason to stay with someone is because they are pregnant. It will only make it worst for the baby and in this case her 9 year old kid. You can be there for her but if she really doesn't want to be with you then I would give her the distance but make sure she knows you are there for appts and when she needs you. As for the drinking I just pray you don't end up with a child with problems that is way too much for her to be drinking. She shouldn't be drinking at all! It's up to you but I would get a paternity test done before/after the baby is born just to be sure. Good luck.




pfletcer04167 - July 10th, 2009 2:38 PM

Met her 07/02/09, she asked me to stop condoms on the 09/03/09 and she wanted pill as she didnt like condoms, maybe alarm bells should have rang then, but i trusted her, It was late april she told me she was pregnant, went for scan with her, and nurse said baby conceived 26/03/09 and was 5wks 3 days old i think. If she does'nt want me - i feel rejected, and want nothing to do with her or baby as i didnt ask to be in this position, or should i be more of a man, and accept i played my part in this - or did she trap me ? She says she sees me as a friend now ?!?! We have agreed to have a break from eachother for atleast 1 week to see how we both feel. But how can i stay and support her feeling like a mug - be tricked and now have all this responsibility. Or what if after week break i decide ok shes tricked me, but i still love her and will try and be happy to be a father and support her - but she says no ? I feel i would hate her so much for sucking me in chewing me, then spitting me out like rubbish, and would want to stay away from her and the baby then. Eventhough i know deep down its not the babys fault - That is if i am the father ? I think I must be, dont think shes that bad a person she would let me think i was the father when there is a chance i was not, or could it be she wouldnt admit to cheating, there was a time i found message of another man - with x kiss marks - she said its just a freind ??? If we do decide to stay together, i still feel i would need to be 100% sure its mine - and have her and the baby an myself have a DNA test - but what will relationship be like then - she will het me for doing that.




missarose22 - July 10th, 2009 6:46 PM

It sounds like the baby could be yours but if you have any doubts then you should get a paternity test done. The fact is she didn't trick you at all. It was YOUR CHOICE to have sex without a condom. The pill is NOT 100% effective so even if she was taking it she could still get pregnant. And how much trust can you have in someone that you've known for only one month? I think the worst thing people can do is stay together for the sake of a baby. I know they mean well but 99% of the time it doesn't work anyway. Most of the time it's not a healthy environment for a child to be raised in. You can still be a terrific father and not be with your ex but that's entirely up to you. It sounds like you don't want to shrink away from your responsibility but you need to remember that it's not just you and your ex anymore. There is going to be a baby that you will be responsible for. If in the end that's not something you want then that is your decision. But for now you can only tell your ex that you are here for her and let her have her space. It will only make it worst if you try to argue with her over what she's feeling and what you want. Good luck.






pfletcer04167 - July 11th, 2009 12:56 PM

I am sorry that is a typical womans view, it was her choice to have the baby, why else would she ask me to stop using condoms under the pretense 'she doesnt like them' ? She would never have been pregnant if she didnt decieve me. Its not fair on any man to be in my position. IT WAS HER CHOICE TO HAVE SEX WITHOUT A CONDOM AS SHE REASURRED ME SHE WILL MAKE SURE SHE WILL NOT GET PREGNANT. I am not a 99.9/1 % unlucky one, my only mistake was believing her. And yes there is or may be a baby i am going to be responsible for and i wish i could just walk away, but there is a matter of morals and personal feelings i feel i may not just be able to walk away from. SO IT IS NOT ''MY CHOICE ' as you say. It really is her doing the arguing, shes even told me to stop talking about my brother wh died 18 months ago cos it is doing her head in. She a heartless selfish bitch - but i am still drawn to her and keep grovelling and apologising to her. WHY ?? she has shown little interest in me. And its always me that does all the running round, shes got what she wanted now, her and her baby to be, her 9 year old son, and her house and new job. What have i got - NOTHING ?


Ashley2121 - July 16th, 2009 7:48 AM

Did she put a gun to your head and force you to have sex without a condom? NO - you have to take responsibility that its her "fault" just as much as yours. How long have you been having sex for? You should know that ANYTIME you have sex with or without protection is a chance to conceive a baby. As far as your relationship you shouldnt stay together for a baby - when that baby gets old enough they will realize their parents are miserable and it will rub off on them. The 1st thing would be to do a DNA test so you can be sure it is yours. You say "what would the relationship be like then?" well what is the relationship like now? If she doesnt want anything to do with you then what does it matter? You can be a father without being with the mother of your child - half the time in these situations thats whats best. Let this be a lesson to you - sometimes you have to learn the hard way. But remember everything happens for a reason. Good luck


CgGirl - July 16th, 2009 10:34 AM

I agree here: you can't be sure she wouldn't be pregnant even if you were wearing a condom. No birth control method is 100% effective.
Basically anytime you have sex, you take a risk.
From what you are saying, you don't really have a relationship anyway. It was a good idea to take a break; so afterwards, see where you are at. Maybe the dust will have settled a little.
Also, why does she drink? Is she depressed or unhappy?
If she won't let you in to her life, do a paternity test (which you should probably do anyway) and you can get mediation services to arrange for your rights to be respected as far as the baby is concerned.


pfletcer04167 - July 16th, 2009 11:07 AM

fair point, but if she uses pill properly like she promised, what are the chances of her getting pregnant just after a few weeks of asking me to stop using condoms, you must admit, it is dodgy. For some reason now she hates me, i think its cos she knows i have told her i dont want anything to do with the baby if we split up, or does she just not like me and only ever wanted baby, she wont reply to texts, i am trying to sort this out. Why cant she accept i am willing to stay with her and hopefully in time be happy about the baby but for now just support me. I cant help how i feel towards her, its either me her and the baby, or nothing. As cruel as that may sound. She chose to bring the baby into this world despite knowing i didnt want one before hand, so she can deal with it, but i still have feelings for her and not the baby.



Ashley2121 - July 16th, 2009 12:15 PM

Wow! Do you really see what you are saying? You are giving her the choice to either HAVE to be with you in order to have her childs father in their life or not be with you and receive no support from you. Would you like if those choices were given to you? She is probably scared of what to do, I would be if my boyfriend gave me those choices. You are making this all about you and your needs - you need to be there to support HER. If you make the right choice and choose to be a part of your childs life you are going to have to learn to be a lot less selfish. Pregnant women go through so many emotions and feelings of confusion (even if the baby was planned) - she doesnt need to be hounded right now to make a choice like this. No wonder she wont talk to you or return any of your calls/texts. Think about it - the choices you gave her are unfair and totally uncalled for. She and the baby may be better off without such a person as yourself in their lives. Sorry to be harsh I am just in disbelief at the things you have said.....


IsabellasMommy - July 16th, 2009 3:23 PM

I really wasn't going to comment on this thread because I figured the orignal poster had been given a lot of responses, but then I read his last post. Now, it might be my pregnancy hormones going crazy right now (38 weeks) but what the hell??? Are you serious? You told her to pick between you and the baby? I'm going to assume that you're really young here, teenage young, or you're just extremely selfish and stupid. Ok, first off, some women do NOT like to use condoms, but it's also YOUR responsibility to use them or find another form of birth control so do not put all of the blame onto her. Second, yeah, she got pregnant and you think it's not yours because she asked you to not use condoms...ok, the failure rate for condoms is like 20% and the failure rate for the pill is actually higher than most people think. The ONLY way to prevent pregnancy is to not have sex. Since you are obviously old enough to have sex, you are old enough to support a baby, even if you do not want it. I really do hope that you grow up and support the baby in some way, even if you just send money to her for what the baby needs. This is what really irritates me, men getting women pregnant and then running out because "they don't want a baby" or "they aren't ready to be a daddy" and then the mother has to do all of it on her own. I've done that once and feel bad for every woman that has done it alone and that will do it alone. If I was her, I wouldn't return your texts or calls either...from what I've read I do agree with Ashley2121, maybe her and the baby are better off without you.


Samara - August 5th, 2009 11:54 AM

I'm sorry your in this situation. It sucks! I'm sorry you feel like she tricked you.

What girl would ask a guy to stop using a condom, I defiantly wouldn't if I didn't want to be pregnant!!

That being said

If she was on the pill, and missed one, took one late, was on antibiotics, or is overweight.

All of those things could make taking the pill ineffective.

I know a few woman who got pregnant even though a condom was used and the pill was properly taken.

Get a paternity test, she may know its not yours and isn't telling you for whatever reason.

Also I think it would be extremely rare to have a positive pregnancy test at 2 weeks, it would have to be timed perfectly for her to know 2 weeks from the date of conception. Even then I think its impossible!


Samara - August 5th, 2009 11:56 AM

Also, I do think it was totally her choice to have the baby. I can't imagine what it would be like to have an abortion, but if I were in her situation, I would DEFIANTLY strongly consider it!

She basically is trapping/tricking him on some level by choosing to have it.