Anyone Here Not Religious

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Lin - January 13

Is there anyone else out there who is tired of reading people's prayers? I mean, I'm not against anyone being religious or anything, but it gets a bit tiring constantly reading people talking about their god and prayers etc. as though their beliefs are grounded in fact. I know these people really believe that it is, but I wish that they could realize that when they state things as such, they are necessarily implying that other people's beliefs are wrong, and it's really annoying. I, for one, am NOT religious and am very happy being so. Any others out there?

 

TC - January 13

Someone stating what they believe is purely their opinion. This is a forum and everybody has an opinion. You saying that they should not post their belief system is like someone saying that you have no right to post your complaints. This is a forum. To each his own.

 

Lin - January 13

Sure, everyone has an opinion, but you'd be throwing a fit if someone jumped on here advocating racism. No, religion is not the same as racism, but it is only courteous to consider others. I'm not saying people shouldn't post their belief system, but it is absolutely NOT necessary to put it in virtually every post. What really irks me is when people tell me they are going to pray for me, as though that's supposed to necessarily make me happy. As for your saying "This is a forum. To each his own," you could just simply say that about life, but that doesn't make it right. Do you really want to accept everyone's opinions as valid just because they are their opinions? If so, then any person advocating genocide would necessarily have to be considered right as well. See the logical error you are proposing? Sure, that's the easy thing to do to avoid conflict or critical thought of any depth, but is that morally responsible? I'd say no.

 

Jenn - January 13

advocating genocide??? what are you talking about? Everyone has different views on religion, if someone says that they'll pray for you-then just tell them not to waste their time on you....but I think that your comparisions are drastic!! I feel (and this is my opinion) that I am morally responsible to be sure that I teach my kids about God because that is what I believe. Who is to say what is right in life?? By you simply making this post, you are doing the exact thing that you are accusing others of doing-placing your opinion as fact-how do you know there is no God, or no higher power for these religions?? Its kind of like throwing stones in a gla__s house if you ask me...

 

mandie - January 13

If you don't want to read other people's opinions which are different from your own, why do you come to sites like this? So you're not religious and when someone says they'll pray for you it doesn't make you happy. Okay. Disregard the comment, or accept the good intentions in which it was made. You're right when you say not everyone's opinion is correct just because they believe it too be true, but let's face it. This is a site with tons of readers, none of whom you know personally. It's not like these ladies are your friends or anything. Don't get offended when someone says they'll pray for you. They are just strangers who mean well and want good things for you.

 

Jenn - January 13

Also-peoples religion are grounded into facts for them, in their souls-who are you to say that that is wrong??

 

Lin - January 13

Excuse me, Jenn, but you obviously missed the point of my post. I never equated religion and genocide. My genocide comment was in response to TC's statement that opinions are valid by virtue of being opinion. If that's true, then someone's opinion that genocide is a good thing would have to be considered valid. I was just pointing out the invalidity of her statement, not comparing religion and genocide. Can you not see the logic in that? I also never said anything about what is "right" to believe, so don't get your panties in a twist. Belief is belief, and not fact. Facts are things that can be verified, so sorry, as much as you believe it is true, no religion is a fact. Facts are not relative or subjective. Facts are facts. That does not say that your beliefs are wrong - just simply not fact. I also never said that there was no god. I didn't even mention what I believe, so you're only throwing your own a__sumptions around. To Mandie - It's nice to say that I can just ignore the religious posts, but their so abundant it's impossible. Why do I come to sites like this? Well, I think that's so obvious that I'm surprised you missed it. I come here to talk about pregnancy, not religion. I'd like to point out that I haven't said anything here downing on anyone's beliefs nor saying that they are wrong, however both of your posts sound a little aggressive and condescending. I hope I'm wrong, as I understand that not everyone comes across as they mean to on a forum, but you appear to be quite hostile. Why does it offend you so much that I do not want to feel so smothered in Christianity?

 

TC - January 13

OK, can we say..going on a tangent (sp)??? What are you talking about Lin? How does genocide have anything to do with what I said. Genocide clearly put's people in harms way. Does saying, I'll pray for you do the same thing? No, so they can not be matched up against each other. You have contradicted yourself Lin. On one hand you say that we need to be courteous and consider others, but who did you consider when you put up this post? You see, it is extremely hard to please everyone bc we all have different opinions.

 

Gem - January 13

I am not really very religious although I do believe there is something out there in the afterlife. I don't mind people being religious as people are ent_tled to their own views but personally I think religion is one of the worst things in the world as after all that is what most of the things like war and terrorism are about.

 

Jenn - January 13

speaking of panties in a twist, geeze.. ok, so why don't you just ignore these posts?? I never made any a__sumptions on what you believe, I just think that if they bother you that much ignore it...you can't let things people post get you in such an uproar...it is only a forum. Unfortunately, some believe that genocide is ok, just the same as anything that someone else may see as "wrong." I just think this whole thread is rediculous I guess......but, that is my opinion..not fact, of course.

 

TC - January 13

Well, ladies its been fun. I have nothing else to say bc, IMO, this thread is pointless. So I am not going to read it. Lin, I advise you to do the same thing. Good luck with pregnancy Lin and I hope that you don't let the religious people get to you so much. : )

 

Lin - January 13

TC, you obviously didn't put an ounce of thought into what I said. It was perfectly logically consistent. If it bothers you so much that some people aren't religious and don't want to be smothered in religion, then don't read my posts. This thread was started to find like-minded individuals, not to attack your religion or tell anyone what to believe. So let me have this one little spot as a place to not feel overwhelmed by others constantly proclaiming their beliefs. Sure, they have every right to join this thread and tell me about their god, but does that make it courteous? Can you not see how your behavior in saying that I should just shut up and accept that every discussion must contain religious comments is rude? It is not as though I am telling them to not pray or express their religion on those other threads. Instead, I started a thread explicitly for those of us who are NOT religious, and I'm getting attacked for it. How would you feel if I jumped into a thread you started that was explicitly seeking out other Christians (or Muslims or Jews or Zoroastrians or whatever your religion is) and started telling them to stuff if if they don't want to hear about my beliefs? Can't you see how being the minority amidst a majority of religious talk on a non-religious website can be a bit suffocating?

 

jb - January 13

God bless you all for stopping this thread.

 

Kendra - January 13

You have to ignore alot of c___p on this website - most of which is 13 year olds wanting you to tell them if they are pregnant or not. The 'god bless you' is just one more thing to look past. I'm not religious, but it isn't a big deal to just ignore them. I don't think anyone's post has ever been forceful about religion - I've never seen anything beyond the 'god bless you' and 'you're in my prayers' - well, excpet for when it comes to the topic of abortions, but that's a whole other thing, that gets everyone going. Anyways, just try to let it go, unless someone singles you out, and is telling you what you should believe, there's just no harm in it.

 

Lin - January 13

I guess part of the reason why it annoys me so much is because I'm a huge advocate of critical thought. It's not the random "god bless you" or "I'll pray for you" that annoys me but the people who ignore reason to use religion to justify their opinions on all different non-religious topics, even when it's logically invalid to do so. It's not as though reason and religion are incompatible or that adherence to a religious doctrine supercedes the use of reason, but people some people really seem to a__sume so (not everyone, mind you). It's as though some people use religion as an excuse to not have to think. Best quote ever: "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use." -- Galileo Galilei

 

M.E.J. - January 13

Whether you may realize it or not, someone in this world has prayed for you. And that is why you are where you are today. Even if everyone you know is an athiest, someone has prayed to their God for you. And he has answered. For all you know, or anyone of us, we may only be alive because someone, a grandmother, a great-grandfather, a long distance friend, someone you may not even know, has prayed for our lives and well-being. Instead of putting those people who pray down, just read on. And know that people care. What is the harm of people showing care for one another?

 

AprilMum - January 13

Okay....well that was just dumb. She;s not religious (neither am I by the by) - and I do not believe that we are only still here because someone has prayed for us. I'm not going to start some huge religious debate - I'm just saying that if someone says they do not believe in god, there is no reason for you to go and say 'well, youre here because someone prayed for you' - obviously, I just think that's b.s. - there is no harm in showing people you care for them, and even though I don't believe in god, I appreciate the thought (however ridiculous it is to me) that they are meaning good will to me - but don't go and tell me that's the only reason I'm here.

 

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