8 Month Old Still Not Sleeping Thru The Night Help

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alisara - October 12

Hi everyone....my 8 month old son is still not sleeping through the night. We have tried everything......including the Ferber method. He has been going down about 7:30 every night, but then wakes up again around 9:30...and is wide awake. If/when we get him back to sleep, he wakes up again in the early a.m. , and then is up for the day at 5-5:30 everyday. We have tried to keep him up later,...that didn't work...we can deal with having him cry to actually go down to sleep, but that is not helping him stay asleep at all. His daytime napping varies...some days he will only sleep for 45 minutes, others for 3 hours......Any suggestions???? .....should I just resign myself to the fact that he may just not be a sleeper?

 

DDT - October 12

Hmm that's tough. I also have a (almost) 8 month old. He generally sleeps 7am-7pm and about 2-2.5 hrs of nap time a day. Do you feed him at night when he wakes up? And CIO doesn't work at all? how long are the intervals you have let him CIO? I would suggest using CIO for the early wake-up/or put him to bed earlier (6:45-7pm) at night. My ds does wake up occasionely once anywhere between 9-11pm. I think its due to teething. He will cry and dh and I will wait to see if he goes back to sleep. Half the time one of us goes in there, picks him up and pats his back for a few mins. Then we put him down and leave the room. Most of the time he goes back to sleep and other times he will cry but we just leave him. He doesn't cry for longer than 5 mins ever. I suggested putting him to bed earlier because there is another lady on this forum (name of DB) whose lo would have nightly wake-ups and early rising. According to "Healthy sleep habits, happy child" it suggests an earlier bedtime. Its worth a try.

 

guccigal87 - October 13

welll i have an 8 month old.. and he does almost the same thing.. he used to sleep the night but now he goes to bed at 7...sometmes wakes up at 9 but goes right to sleep is up at 2 for a botle then 5 for the day with 2 20 min naps... i think its just a growth spurt this is when they grow the most in a short time plus they using more muscles trying to crawl and pull themself up.. but i have noticed that putting on musicly.. not softly but a meduim level works awesome i think they hear it and it helps them realise they are still at home.. plus they get dreams that wake them too.. also put a small stuffed animal in the crib they play with it when they are wide awake and can wear themselfs out... um also lay him down on his side... that way he can roll from tummy or back in his sleep without to much movement... hope that helped a little

 

alisara - October 13

Thanks to the both of you! I hope I don't sound clueless, but what is CIO? The prob with him is that he doesn't just do a small cry for 5 minutes, he goes into full hysteria within a few minutes. Last night he went down at 730 (fell asleep having his last bottle - 8oz ...ate about 7.5oz) He woke at 845p...I went in and just tried to pat his back while still in the crib...didn't work ,,..he cried harder. So my dh went in and gave him a few more ounces. After about an hour, he went back to sleep. Put him back in the crib...he woke again at 11...I rubbed his back and kept him in the crib. Also turned on his mobile. (this took about 30minutes)He woke again at 3 (hysterical) so my dh just brought him into bed with us...(that is what we have been doing that past week because we are so exhausted). He was up for good this morn at 530. We don't generally give him another bottle, but until this past week we started giving him a little more when he wakes the first time (not knowing what else to do)And he doesn't stop crying...infact there have been times when we have tried to let him cry, and he gets so hysterical that he starts choking and spits up all over his crib (so then I have to change the sheets at 3am...uugghhh!) Last time that happened I swore I would never let him cry that hard or get that upset again. I have tried the mobile and the aquarium in his crib....no success...he has no interest...Maybe this is a growth spurt...and teething...cause he is teething right now. Maybe I will try the earlier bedtime...thank you...and if anyone else has suggestions...I'm open to them!

 

KimS - October 13

alisara, my ds is 8 months too, and not a great sleeper, but is getting better, he used to have roughly the same schedule as your lo, I used to take him into bed with me from about 2 am on.. then I became too nervous he would fall out (I'm a single mom so I don't have another body on the other side of him!) so I decided to do pu/pd (baby whisperer method) essentially it took me 3 nights and now he sleeps almost straight through in his crib, I usually hear him about 5 or 6 but I leave him and he falls back asleep until 7. Essentially this method works by picking him up when he cries, then put him down and soon as he stops crying, the first night when i did this at 2 am, it took about 35 mins, I probably picked him up 40 times!! but then the second night it only took 15 mins and only a few pick ups, then the third night, I didn't have to pick him up, just pat his back..It worked well for me, but know that you can't cave.. you have to follow through or he'll get all confused. Good luck. Kim

 

alisara - October 13

Hi Kim S...ok, thanks. So...each time he cried you would pick him up...would you leave the room? How long would you let him cry for before you would pick him up again? ...when you were putting him back down, was he sleeping or still awake? ...I just want to make sure I do it right !!! Thanks again! :-)

 

KimS - October 13

Okay so he has woken up and is crying, I go in pick him up, console him, as soon as he stops crying, I put him down like I'm putting him to sleep tell him it's time to sleep etc., then try to leave the room, this goes on until when you leave the room he goes to sleep.. so essentially he is going down awake and learning to soothe himself back to sleep. You should get the book from the Baby Whisperer it explains it all.. this worked well for me, but like I said the first night is REALLY tough... it took me picking him up like 50 times.. but by the third night I didn't have to pick him up. Let me know if you have any more questions. Good Luck. .Kim

 

alisara - October 13

ok, thanks Kim. I will give it a shot tonight! does your son nap well during the day? Thanks for your help!

 

KimS - October 13

He naps all right, normally 1.25 hrs in the morning and anywhere from 45 min to 2 hrs in the afternoon, lately it's been 45 min... and he goes to bed between 6:30 - 7...Does you son nap well?

 

alisara - October 13

Well, some days yes, some days no! At the beginning of the week he was sleeping for about an hour in the morning 8:30-9:30ish and then in the afternoon for 2.5 - 3 hours (1-3:30ish) BUT, then just like that at the end of the week...he decided not to nap ...just like an hour in the afternoon. I have been trying so hard for the past 2 months or so to get him on a schedule - both day and night, and just when I think I did it, he changes it up on me! Today for instance, he napped from 9:45 until 11:30...so, we'll see what the afternoon is like!

 

guccigal87 - October 13

ohhh ive always wanted to try the pick up put down... but i go to school full time i dont think i have 2-3 hours at night to work on it... GAAYY cuz i would love my son to go to sleep on his own... hell only fall asleep on the living room floor alone atherwise i hold him... does that mean you drop the midnight bottlle too? or can we still give that to him... i have the baby whisper i love her.. but i didnt really do much fo what she sadi cuz i goti the book late... although i do do the boundries for mommy and daddis things he cant touch and that worked AWESOMe

 

DDT - October 13

Yes, I agree with KimS to use the PU/PD method. I suggeste CIO (cry-it-out) because you said you were already using the Ferber method. What I essentially do with my ds when he wakes up at night is PU/PD. I pat his back until he calms down, say goodnight and then put him down again. Repeat as neccessary but my ds usually only needs it once (so far anyway). The key is not to hold them for too long....3-5mins max. I do know that KimS must be the expert in PU/PD for the number of times shes had to resort to it. But if you stick to it like she has suggested and never cave it should help really quickly. guccigal87: when you say 12am feed are you referring to the dream feed? (which is usually around 10-11pm). According to "The Baby Whisperer" that can be dropped when your lo is 7 months old, because they should be well established on solids during the day that they no longer need a night feeding. I dropped the dream feed when my ds was 6.5 months without problems. Of course, you can't go cold turkey and the book explains how to do it over a course of 10-14 days. BTW I've never read these "boundaries" you speak of? what page is it on because I would love to read it. Thanks!

 

guccigal87 - October 13

nooo i dont mean a dream fed i dropped that when he was 3 months cuz he never ate it he just sucked on it... i mean lately in his growth spurt he has been getting up at 2 EVERY night and eats a full 8 oz bottle in like 3 minutes.. he wolfs it back like i never feed him .. umm ill have to look what page its on.. basically you show your baby what you dont want them to touch... let them see it and play and then say .. this is mommies... have it where she KNOWS she can get it.. and everytime she goes to touch it you say no.. pick her up..and bring her to a different toy... i also tap my sons hand if its something dangerous.. we had a playstation he would always pull on his head... we gave him his own color controler and i swear i muszt have got up about 20 times one day to say no... but it took about 3 days... and he doesnt even go near it now... which is nice he doesnt touch my candles.. or decorations.. which will be sooo nice with xmas i wont have to worry about him pulling the tree on himself

 

alisara - October 13

Hi DDT - As far as the CIO (thanks!) ....the longest that we have let him cry is and hour and a half...that still didn't work...as I mentioned before, when he gets hysterical, he pukes, and that is what happened. my pediatrician said to never let them cry for more than one hour because if they have not stopped by that point, they have reached their limit and I should get him. Though I do want to add that sometimes he will fall asleep on his own after crying, but that has not helped with the continuous waking up....I am going to try the PU/PD method tonight....hope it works!.

 

DB - October 14

Try an earlier bedtime and longer naps! Sounds like a cycle of being overtired and not getting enough sleep to me! We started putting my dd to bed at 6pm (she would sleep 6:30p,-6am) and she actually sleeps from 6pm-7am most nights! And she takes two 1-2 hour naps. Seems like you've gotten lots of suggestions so I won't make this long, but earlier bedtimes do help some babies.

 

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