Don T Agree With Dr Give Antibiotics Or Not

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Mellissa - January 27

I took Diesel into the dr yesterday because he has been coughing a lot, and his nose is stuffy. He's almost 6 months, and after all the reports on cough medicine, I wanted to get a dr's opinion. Before he even looked at Diesel he said "maybe it's an ear infection, that would be the easiest thing to treat". after listening to his lungs, and asking me a few questions, and trying to look into Diesel's ears with no success (Diesel was not having it) the dr said, "well, it seems he has a cold, and probably an ear infection, so give him Amoxicillin for ten days and if he's not feeling better, bring him back." the thing is, I know how a child acts when they have an ear infection, and Diesel does NOT act that way. he lets me touch his ears, he doesn't pull on them, he has no fever, etc. I don't think I want to treat him for something he doesn't have. Getting a second opinion is kind of pointless because I have to go to a military dr, and they pretty much all think alike, rushing you out the door. Would you skip the antiobiotics see how your baby does without them?

 

Jenn - January 27

I guess it is ultimately up to you. He may just have a cold-or he may not have wanted the doc to mess with his ears bc they hurt. You could wait-there is no cure for a cold-if he gets worse-you can alwasy fill the script. I think docs Rx too many antibiotics in the first place. Its up to you.

 

Lisastar9 - January 27

maybe try to shine a flashlight into his ears to see if you can see redness,I think I would just wait it out a couple of days. Since you believe you know your son look for ques in the future. As for the cough there is not much you can do,if his nose is runny for days on in with the cough I would get the precription filled to clear up the cough. My son had cough and runny nose for 3 weeks it would go away anitbiotics cleared it up. Hope this helps.

 

Mellissa - January 27

thanks ladies... i appreciate the response. i didn't think about the antibiotic clearing up the cough... the doc just said it was for the ear infection. maybe i will give it to him and see if it helps with his nose and cough...I've never been big on taking meds, and my dd never really needed them, so I'm kinda clueless when it comes to that! thanks again!!!

 

Celia - January 27

My dd is 3 months old and has been having some sinus congestion at night and starting to get a slight cough. I took her into see her ped a couple days ago because of the amount of mucus she is having at night. Turns out she has a ear infection also, but she has not run any fever, she doesn't pull on her ears, and she acts just as happy as she always does. Sounds like you are probably catching the ear infection before it get's bad. I would give him the meds that way you can knock it out before it makes the little guy miserable. I normally don't like giving any kind of antibiotic unless it's absolutely necessary but those ear infection can really cause some major pain for the lo's. Antibiotics will do nothing for the cold, you'll just have to let it run it's course. Hope your little guy get's better soon!

 

Lisastar9 - January 27

My ds had a cough due to post natel drip.having a runny nose and the phlem draining into the back of his throat causing a cough. Hope you understand what I am mean.ing

 

Mellissa - January 27

lisastar9, that sounds just like what my son has. his congestion is just in his nose, not in his chest. the coughing seems to be coming from the drainage also. i guess my issue with giving the meds is that the dr walked into the room with the a__sumption that it "must" be an ear infection, so i think he had his mind made up before he even tried to examine my son. I've found that in military hospitals, everything is so rushed, dr's don't seem to have the time to sit with you and discuss the situation in depth. seriously, the entire visit lasted maybe 5 minutes. i'm going to go ahead and give him the antibiotics in hopes that if he is getting an infection, it will fix it before it gets bad like Celia said. i used to be a nanny to a child who had chronic ear infections, so i guess i just figured my son would show the same symptoms, but maybe it's just starting. i'll just give him the meds for the ten days, and hopefully that will stop any impending infection.

 

Kara H. - January 27

Funny how things change. A week ago I would have given you a completely different response than I will give you today. Max had been congested and stuffy for about two weeks. I could even HEAR the sinus drainage down the back of his throat. I had called the ped and they said it was fine to give him HALF of a triminic infant thin strip. So we did that for about a week until his 6 month appointment. I had noticed Max had been a little more fussy than usual in the evening. I thought about the possiblility of an ear infection, but wrote if off because the didn't act that sick and there was no fever. When we went in for his 6 month appointent, his right ear was so infected she said his eardrum was close to rupturing! I felt horrible. She said if a baby is congested for 2 wks, the chances of an ear infection are extrememly high. Of course I felt so bad I was almost in tears. But she told me that all babies (including b___stfed babies) lose the immunity that their mothers had gave them right around 6 months, and some high % of babies will present for the first time with an ear infection between 6-7 months. I still felt bad and thought I was going to cry all day. I ran into one of my clients who's daughter is a nurse pract_tioner, and her baby's eardrum did rupture, despite showing very few symptoms of an ear infection. They are going to have to repair the babies eardrum surgically!!! I hate antibiotics too, and swore I would be so hesistant to give them. But Max's close call with a ruptured eardrum has made me rething the whole antibotic thing. My new philosophy is to err on the side of caution whenever he acts sick until he can tell me what and how bad something hurts. Then I will take a stand against antibotics, but not until then.

 

Nerdy Girl - January 27

When you say you know how a child acts when they have an ear infection, does that meal that Diesel has had one before? I am just asking because my daughter had an ear infection but never pulled at her ears or anything. I never would have suspected it.

 

JenniferB - January 27

My baby is four months and was congested so I brought him to the doctor. He had only been sick for 4 days but it sounded like it was in his chest. To my surprise he also had an ear infection. He gave me no reason at all to think that he had one. He was happy, didn't pull his ears, and had no fever. I can understand you not wanting to give it to him if it isn't needed. The more they get it the less effective it becomes. I would go ahead and give it to him but insist that the doctor get a look in his ears next time instead of guessing.

 

ash2 - January 27

Well here at the hospital, doctors will give antibiotics before a procedure just to prevent them from getting an infection. There actaully is no harm in getting them. If a patient has a fever, and they cant figure it out, they run antibiotics in them just so they wont prolong a fever because it can cause seizures. However, i wouldnt do it longer than suggested.

 

Kara H. - January 27

Ash - correct me if I am wrong, but the main problem with antibotic resistant bacteria is when people don't finish the antibotic and then the bacteria isn't completely killed off so it comes back and needs a stronger bacteria. Is that right?

 

Mellissa - January 27

Hey everyone! Thanks so much for all your responses!! Like I said before, I am continuing to give Diesel the medicine the Dr prescribed. I guess when I wrote my initial post, I was a little irked by the Dr's reasoning. The way he acted, it was more like he didn't want to take the time to examine Deisel, so he a__sumed he had an ear infection. Like i said, one of the first things he said when he walked in the room was "an ear infection would be the easiest thing to treat". Diesel pulled away when the Dr. looked into one of his ears, and the Dr. gave up and when Diesel wouldn't turn his head for the dr to look in the other ear, he didn't even try. He just said, "Well, I see some wax in there, but he has small ear ca___ls." That's when he said he has a cold and an ear infection, like he was actually able to see something, but didn't feel like elaborating. I wanted to ask questions, but I was so rushed, this all happened so quickly. Nerdy Girl, Diesel has never had an ear infection, but I used to be a nanny for 5 kids, and one of them ALWAYS had an ear infection, plus, I come from a family of 8 kids, and between my two older sisters I have 9 neices and nephews, so I've seen my fair share. They would usually pull on their ear lobes, get a fever, and seem like they were always in pain. Diesel may just have a high tolerance for pain, or like Celia said, he could just be getting the infection, better to catch it early. Anyhow, I hope I didn't come off as sounding like I know everything, I was just a little bothered by the Dr, who isn't Diesel's normal pediatrician. He has his 6 month checkup on the 2nd, so I'll be able to make sure his ears are good. Thanks again everyone! And once again, sorry if I sounded like a know-it-all. :)

 

ash2 - January 27

Hey kara, after i read that it came out wrong, lol what i meant was dont take it longer that what the dr. suggested. ( like more than what he says....)

 

Lisastar9 - January 27

Kara H...here is a story for you. My 2 nd ds had a cold for a long time,his brothe rhad the same cold so I never took him to the dr's. One night after getting the boys in bed at 9:00pm an hr later ds wakes up crying. This never happens something was wrong. Dh brought him into the clinic the dr checked him he had two ear infection,one not to bad one really bad. This was his first ear infection in his whole life. He was shy of 3 1/2 old. I felt like a horrible mother. How could I let my son get one and not catch it sooner. Well get this the dr.told me her 2 nd daughter hasd the same infectionin her ears as my ds. Her dd was and is in the same cla__s as mt 1 st ds. I kept reminging myself of this can happen to any one. I still do to this day.remember the story.

 

flower.momma - January 28

Actually, Ash2, it can be harmful. Not only because of creating antibiotic resistant bacteria, but because it can upset the natural bacterial balance of the body. This can cause digestive problems as well as fungal and bacterial indections (such as thrush). It not only kills the bad bacteria, but the good bacteria that helps your bodily systems funstion well and that fight infection. In fact, because I was Strep B positive and was given antibiotics during labor, my son and I both have a thrush infection that won't seem to clear up. My dd had thrush as well after being given antibiotics for an ear infection at 7 months. In this instance, I think JenniferB has good advice. It is probably better to be safe than sorry. My sister and MIL are both deaf in one ear because of child-hood ear infections, so I am always worried about ear infections. Just letting you know that overuse of antibiotics can create a whole range of problems.

 

Rabbits07 - January 28

I read a few months back that more dr's were beginning to take a wait and see stance on antibiotics when it comes to ear infections because of both antibiotic resistance and the fact that 80% of ear infections will clear up on their own within 24-48 hours. Some babies won't be symptomatic (or appear to be) with an ear infection. Our pedi had told us that our now 8-yo son had a really high pain tolerance.....he used to get alot of ear infections and never made a peep about it so I believe it. In this case, giving him antibiotics ONE time even if he doesn't have an ear infection probably won't do any major damage (antibiotic resistance, etc), but in the future I would just explain to the dr. that I didn't really want to give him the antibiotics unless he knew for 100% that he had an ear infection (btw, our pedi has me help hold lo's head so he can look....baby gets mad sometimes, but it's necessary). As flower.momma said, taking antibiotics can upset the bodies natural balance so you may want to give an acidopholus supplement with the antibiotics and after they are done.

 

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