For Moms Who Delayed Shots

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Miriam - January 23

I hope this one does not turn into a war. Anyway... So I am really leaning towards delaying MMR until DS turns two. But I don't know how to deal with the issue at the ped. office. Any advice?

 

Rabbits07 - January 23

With mine I just informed him that I had done my research and had decided to delay it. I made sure he understood that I was making an informed decision that was based on research and not on rumors. In the end though it will basically just depend on what kind of pedi you have. Mine at the time was understanding about it and even mentioned at Mason's 6 month appt. that he guessed we would be waiting until after age 2 on the MMR. He has since retired and I'm not sure how our new pedi will react...he's the pedi that was in the same office as our old pedi and filled in if ours was gone, but I'm not sure of his stance on such matters. I knew a woman who merely mentioned the possibility of immunizations causing autism to her pedi and he refused to see her anymore and even had his lawyer send her a letter stating such! I'm really not sure how our pedi will react this time because I plan on delaying the MMR and the Varicella and nixing the HEP A all together. All in all it IS your child and your decision to make. If your pedi really fights you on it then he may not be the best pedi for your child.

 

Miriam - January 23

Thank Rabbits. Well I guess that's the price I'd have to pay, but I was hoping to avoid a scene. Also I heard that some may even call CPS on you. Our pediatrician is really nice, but she is very by the book so I don't know how she is going to react. Why not HEP A? Did you ever find out if there is any benefit in seperating MMR into its components? I can't find anything on that.

 

livdea - January 23

I told my pedi and the H staff when I had my dd that no shots were neccesary at this time! I got some flack for it, a video that had horror stories of children dying b/c they contracted a deadly illness that could have been prevented...trying to scare the c___p out of you. and it IS scary but in the end though my dr wasn't thrilled she understood. Just do what you have to do...it's your child you know what's best! Good luck!

 

Kara H. - January 23

You know, its unfortunate that we live in a world where people will sue for anything, but we do. There is even a group that gives out awards each year for the most frivolous lawsuit. The winner a couple of years ago was a guy who purchased a $350,000 motor home from a dealer. He started it up, drove onto the freeway THEN got up from the drivers seat and walked to the back of it to make himself something to eat WHILE the vehicle was moving! It crashed, he sued and WON! Because no where in the manual and no person at the dealership say that he couldn't let it drive itself. He got a brand new motor home plus $300,000 in punative damages. Point being, the peds don't really care if you delay, but they are scared to death that you are going to sue them if you kid comes down with something that the vaccine would have covered and has permanant damage from it. So they aren't trying to be mean or bossy, they are just scared that someday they will get sued and lose their practice and license. I don't blame them, I would probably feel the same way if I was in their shoes. I have delayed - not refused - a couple of the vaccines. I always smile and nod while they are telling me everything. Then I politely tell them that I have made an educated decision, I understand the risks, and I would be more than happy to put in in writing that they advised me to get the vaccine and I have chosen not to at this time. They have never made me sign anything, but they quickly drop the subject and we get along just fine from there on out.

 

ElizabethAnn - January 23

The fist Ped. i took my son to told me he wouldnt be my doctor because i wanted to delay shots!! He asked me didnt come back if i wasnt gunna give my son shots! So we gladly left and never looked back! We asked around and found a ped. that has no problems with delaying, or refusing shots! It makes going to the ped so less stressfull!!!!

 

Rabbits07 - January 24

I chose to forgo the Hep A for two main reasons. It is not prevalent in my area (this info is available at your local Health Dept.) and if it is contracted by a child it is rarely serious and causes no long term effects and they generally get over it on their own in 1-3 weeks. (h tt p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepat_tis_A) no dashes. Hep A is more serious if contracted by an adult. When weighing the possible side effects of the vacc with the possible effects of actually having the disease I don't find that the risks outweigh the benefits.

 

Rabbits07 - January 24

I do find...duh...lol.

 

apr - January 24

sorry to sound stuoid, but just out've interest,why should the MMR be delayed? my ds is only 5 months old, but it would be good to know about it when its time... any info would be apreciated

 

Rabbits07 - January 24

apr, there has been alot of controversy over whether or not the MMR shot has anything to do with autism. Some initial studies showed it did, but then follow up studies said it did not....(there's that changing studied thing going on that I mentioned in another thread)....anyways, some people, like myself, choose to delay the MMR until after the age of 2 since it is rare for a previously non-symptomatic child to begin presenting symptoms of autism after age 2. (most children are either symptomatic from early infancy or begin presenting signs between 15 months - 2 years) It is rare for a child to suddenly develop autism after age 3 (but I have read of one case). Anyways, I choose to delay the MMR just for my own peace of mind. Miriam, the only thing I was ever able to find as far as separating the MMR into separate components was that while it would keep your child from being exposed to all of the combined vax components at once that in the long term it only ended up exposing your child to more preservatives and other nonessential components in the vaccine (since they would be getting 3 separate shots that are all preserved instead of the one), so I really couldn't find any benefits of it either.

 

HannahBaby - January 24

I am delaying vacc's. as well. We are basically getting them on schedule just one shot every other week. We are also putting off the MMR until 2. The doctor doesnt approve but he is MY son and no one can tell me what i can and cant do. If my doc refused to do it, i would have been looking for a new doc. Dont back down, you know what is right for your baby. My nephew is EXTREMELY autistic and was talking(mama,dada)/doing all normal 1 year old thing until he got the MMR. My Dr said its just because thats when autism is diagnosed, so its really just a concidence.....but i dont care. I dont feel comfortable doing the MMR that early, so im not going to. Good luck

 

olhdw101 - January 24

This may sound somewhat ignorant and uneducated, but I was just wondering why everyone is delaying shots? Is it strictly because you believe it is linked to Autism, is that the reason? I’m just wondering because I have an 8 year old and a 6 month old and when they tell me its time for their shots I just go do it, no questions asked (maybe my bad?). Is there new research; is there new formulas that cause adverse effects? SOMEONE PLEASE EDUCATE ME?

 

eclipse - January 24

I am interested too in this subject-the only shots I am knowingly against are the flu and pneumonia shots and chicken pox. Any educated advice appreciated.

 

apr - January 24

rabbits-thank you for answering. I am getting nervous now... ds is only 5 and a half months, but its not that long that he'll need to get them... is there real proof of MMR causing autism? I wonder if there is real proof on this. i mean so many kids do get the mmr on time and are fine. my nephew from dh's side is autistic although his parents wont admit it! thing is, he was developing 100% normally until a certain stage... is there any real reason to know if its from the mmr shot? this is something im definetely going to find out

 

Rabbits07 - January 24

olhdw101, it's not everyone that is choosing to but some have decided that is best for their child. I don't know about others, but in our case it's not only the suspected autism link as Hep A has not been linked to such. I have researched and made different decisions for different reasons with each one. In the case of the Hep A it is due to the reason I explained in my January 24, 2007 0:01 post above. With MMR it is due to the possible autism link. As I stated before we have several children in our family who have autism. The one I am the closest to is my nephew. I watched him go from being a happy, talkative toddler to being withdrawn and unable to communicate in what seemed like practically overnight after receiving his MMR. I don't KNOW that the vac caused it....my sister will tell you that she doesn't KNOW that it did, but I don't think it can be 100% ruled out. They don't really know what causes autism...whether it's genetic, environmental, etc. Given the high instance of it in our family I do think there is a genetic link, but I also have a theory that it may be something that lies dormant and things can bring it out. The brain is a very complicated thing and the development of it at different stages of life is absolutely astonishing. How do they know that this is not something laying dormant in these children and when the MMR is given during that crucial period of brain development it is bringing it to the surface? That's just a theory of mine, but I think it's totally plausible. I've seen what can happen and I won't subject my child to it. There are no guarantees that your child won't develop autism by delaying the MMR, but if one of mine were to then I could at least know that I did everything I could to prevent it. I wouldn't be beating myself up over the what-if's. It's a personal choice that each parent has to make. I do encourage parents to research before they vaccinate simply because I think it is wise to be informed about what your child is getting.

 

Rabbits07 - January 24

apr, I meant to address you in my previous reply......their isn't really any conclusive info on the autism/MMR link. As I stated before initial studies found a link, but then later studies said there was none. I have chosen to delay as I feel it's better to wait just in case.

 

olhdw101 - January 24

Thanks for the feedback Rabbits07! Your theory is very interesting, I will look into the MMR shot....hummmmm

 

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