Interesting Article

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Jamie - June 15

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/13/health/13brea.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2 As always, remove dashes.

 

Bonnie - June 15

Very interesting. I am a very big believer in that women should not be made to feel guilty if they choose to formula feed. I think it is important for doctors to discuss the issue with their patients. But in the end it is up to each mother to choose. I agree with the "critics" in that I think they take things too far. Like the obesity issue. It seems like in the US we can blame obesity on just about everything except what actually causes it...not eating properly. We can't seem to admit that it might be our own fault so they come up with so many things to blame it on. I was VERY heavy-set at one point and have lost a ton of weight. I blame on no one for me being that big except me (and the fact that I really think schools should have better nutrion education to counteract all the advertis____nts). My 12 year old step kids are the exact type of kids the anti-formula feeding scientists would want to see. They are honor roll, intellgent, well behaved, and perfectly healthy kids. ~shrug~ There is no doubt I think in anyone's mind that b___st feeding is best. After all, that is what nature intended. But I think the debate gets crammed a bit too much down everyone's throat. My 2 cents.~

 

Bonnie - June 15

P.S. they were formula fed. ~wink~

 

Rabbits07 - June 15

I seen a report about this on the Today show either this morn or yesterday. I b___stfeed Mason and have exclusively b___stfed my last 3 children. The first three were initially on the b___st and then the bottle.None of the first three were b___st fed more than 2 months. My last three children have all been higher in the percentiles for weight and height, but I don't know if that is due to exclusive b___stfeeding or simply because I myself was healthier when I carried them and they were bigger at birth (I only weighed 87 lbs. when I got preg the first time and every time I have a baby they get bigger!) My first three that were formula fed are all small even now as teens so there goes the obesity thing. I really think it is awful that the media adds to the insecurities that we all have as mothers anyway. If someone is putting soda, tea, kool-aid, etc. in a newborn babies bottle, yes, that's awful, but I woman shouldn't feel condemned for choosing to provide a totally healthy alternative to b___st milk.

 

Rabbits07 - June 15

just to add about intelligence. My 13 year old son was formula fed for about 11 months of the first year and he excels in school. This past year he was in the Who's Who Among Outstanding Middle School Students and has won several scince & math awards.....and this evening he won the award for Most Outstanding in his Electronics cla__s at Career Tech Prep Camp. Not bragging, but just pointing out that formula fed babies can be just as intelligent, and even more so, as b___st babies. I b___st feed because I felt it was the best choice for me and my baby and no one should be put down for their feeding choices.

 

SonyaM - June 15

This is a very HOT topic for me. I always a__sumed I would b___stfeed and was very excited about it. I took the cla__s, bought the books and felt fully prepared. After 26 hours of labor, a c-section (where I was put under), and not seeing my baby for hours after the section-b___stfeeding was not even close to being successful. My son would not latch on, it just didn't work. I got very little support from the hopsital staff lactation consultants and once I got home it just got worse. No one in my family or my inlaws family had ever b___stfeed so there was no support there and at the time our city was going through a major flood and we could not get to a lactation consultant. So we bottle fed and I felt HORRIBLE for it. I actually went to therapy over the issue. When I got pregnant with my second baby I again said I would bf. I even contacted the lactation consultants at the hospital to arrange for consulatation after my section. Again, they were not much help. I was told something different by every person that came in my room. This baby did latch on great to one side but not the other. So I naively fed on mainly one side and ended up with a bleeding nipple and pain that was undescribable. So again, we bottle fed. I just hate that we are made to feel guilty over this issue. I also don't believe for a second that b___st feed babies are healthier or smarter. My best friend has exclusivly bf her son (who happens to be six days younger than my son) and I have bottle fed my son. Her son has had bronchilotis twice and an ear infection once. My son, perfectly healthy. My oldest son (bottle fed) is really one of the smartest kids his age. We knew from early on that he was really really smart and now that he has been in preschool his teachers have confirmed this. So, I just don't by into all of these theories of bottle fed babies being doomed. Sorry so long, like I sad this is a hot issue for me.

 

melissa g. - June 15

i saw that article too as well as a new commercial ad campaign that is about to run that states formula feeding is downright harmful. SIGH. you know what makes me most sad? what message does that send to adoptive parents??? dont adopt a kid b/c you will be harming it by formula feeding?? oh please! speaking of that issue alone, we have a family friend who adopted a little girl who was formula fed and has since gone on to Cornell University. I too was SO excited to b___stfeed, and managed it exclusively for the first 3 months, but we had so many problems, my baby didnt drain milk well, i had to also pump and give her bottles, and then i got clogged ducts multiple times a week for a month straight, i met with lactation nurses until i was blue. I almost put my fist through a wall, i was so upset. I wanted so badly for b___stfeeding to be a success but it was not to be. Maybe it will work out for future kids of mine! I know people who have bad experiences with #1 and then done fine. But I will not beat myself up about it anymore and I find it so sad that mommies who try so hard to do rigfht by their kids should made to feel badly about this. Oh -- my dad was formula fed from day one and is one of the nation's top trial attorneys, done the Ironman triathalon 3x and has never had a significant health problem in his life. It's all about lifestyle and genetic luck of the draw, in my opinion.

 

pbj - June 16

This article is also a topic on another parenting site I check out. I'm tired of defending myself against b___stfeeding S.S. I have a friend who was so unsupportive of me when I had to start feeding Mattea formula I will no longer speak to her...she and I had been friends for 17 years. I think that we do need to educate more on b___stfeeding, but in this country it is much more difficult than in others. Many mothers and grandmothers never had a desire to b___stfeed so it is very hard to get the support needed. When I was pregnant there was not a single doubt in my mind that I would b___stfeed, I knew nothing about formula and there were none in my home while I was trying. I am tired of justifying myself to self righteous leftist who believe their way is the only way. I couldn't really give a s*it less what any of them think of me. (this includes my so called friend, who btw even though Mattea was 2 weeks old and refusing to latch so therefore not eating, told me to not give her anything to eat. She'll eat when she's starving...how absolutely inhumane) I get questions like "Why aren't you bf'ing?" "Don't you know the benefits?" Of course I don't, I'm a complete moron! So now I basically say " how the hell is it your business how my daughter is fed?" I don't barade you for feeding your toddler hot dogs, mac n' cheese and chicken nuggets. I refuse to give into their nazi like ideas any longer. I plan to have one more, and if I'm able to bf then so be it, but if I cannot once again then that's fine too. I will not allow any of these people to make me feel less a woman any longer.

 

Christy - June 16

Don't a lot of formula manufacturers already voluntarily have the "b___st is best" spiel printed on formula containers? Jamie, I know you have read this one, but here is another article examining the claimed benefits of bf. http://www.slate.com/id/2138629/ remove any dashes that may appear.

 

austinsmom - June 16

This is a hot topic for me as well....I had an experience much like sonyam.....when I got preg there was no doubt I too would b___stfeed and I bought the books and even an ameda double pump just in case of need...I was so excited about the whole thing....I had no support at all ...noone in my family or my husbands had ever b___stfed and I got the impression at that time that they thought I was being selfish cause they would not get to feed lo.....when austin was born I found out I had flat nipples (who would have thought? they bead up just like anyone elses when cold etc) and I tried and tried anyway....I had the snottiest nurse you ever saw and she convinced and I mean convinced my husband and his mom that I was starving my child by trying to bf and brought in preprepared formula and a special bottle cause of said starving.....I had the biggest fight I have ever had in my life with my hubby over this it was such a stressfull time in my life.......that night I had a nurse from heaven come in....she brought me a nipple shield and showed me how to get lo to latch on and how to hold him....she stayed by my side until austin was feeding correctly and I was comfortable......I was so happy and proud!!!!! I cannot describe how greatful I was to this nurse but I sang her virtues to anyone who would listen cause she helped to be able to feed my own child......now after all of that I still could'nt get support and unfortunity lo was not thriving....3 weeks of going every week to doctor and them saying I am sorry he is not gaining enough :-( I finally broke down and started pumping cause I was so scared my littleone was not getting enough and fighting with everyone (quite literally) I dried up at 6 weeks but not for lack of trying and you know I was heartbroken......all this ....and for nothing....I was so convinced from all of my reading that lo was not going to be as healthy and was at a greater risk for so many things because my body would not cooperate and supply my lo with what he needed.......I have since come to the understanding that every woman does the best they can and they should not be condemned for whatever decision they make.....I was formula fed and yes I have serious asthma and allergies but that does not mean it is because I was formula fed cause my bro is perfectly healthy.......I must say though that those who put mothers down for formula feeding really aught to go through the same experience I just described and I could guarantee they would keep their lousy mouth shut!!!!!

 

Christy - June 16

Austinsmom- read that Slate article to which I provided the link above. You know, I have been fortunate enough to be able to bf my son since day one and he is over seven months old now. I am a big supporter of bf and bf rights, but I think having government warnings on formula containers on billboards, etc is going too far. Labeling infant formula the way you label cigarettes and alcohol is ridiculous. Furthermore, they have not yet been able to prove through longitudinal studies that bf reduces the risks of certain cancers, diabetes, obesity, etc. There are way too many external factors out there that can contribute to one getting one of those dieases.

 

pbj - June 16

austinsmom-same thing happened to me. I never knew I had flat nipples until Mattea was born. I could not get my nipple erect either, it was the strangest thing. DH watched as I even tried to put an ice cube over my nipple just to try to get her to latch...to both of our suprise, my nipple would not even become erect with a d__n piece of ice. I no longer explain to people why I stopped trying to bf. It started to get to the point that I everytime I told the story I would cry and become depressed all over again. I started to feel inadequate. Unfortunately, I gave into that for a while. I was a bad mother for not bf my daughter, even though I had tried everything! I was glad to hear though that I wasn't the only one that made this discovery too late. We'll see how it goes next time. (well, if I do have another one.)

 

pbj - June 16

I also wanted to add. I think it would be interesting if we knew who exactly they studied. What were the perecentage of working parents to those where at least one parent stayed home with the child? If they liklihood of bf goes up according to education and salary, wouldn't that also say that the reason may be that the mother is in the home to bf longer? Did the study follow the children as they turned into toddlers? What was their diet as toddlers. I find that my friends who bf, the majority of their kids have c___p diets...chick. nuggets, fries, mac n' cheese. Several of friends who bottle fed eat way more veggies. I think the study is incomplete; I really would like to know does eating well after infancy change those variables. I would almost guarantee that it would. Those who are poor and must bottle feed in order to work usually do not have good diets since it costs more to eat well. I'd be interested to see...hmmmm! Oh yeah, one last thing. Don't you think they're forgeting one important fact? How the heck is a mom who has to go back to work at 8-12 supposed to bf until 6 months. Oh yeah, I can see the avg. worker in this country making $10/hr; "sorry I can't wait on that table right now, I have to pump." Never going to happen as unfortunate as it may be, but it doesn't work for everyone. That's why I say the b___stfeeding SS, so now they can make you feel ashamed for bottlefeeding your child.

 

austinsmom - June 16

Ok Christy I read the article and I really found that interesting about the antibodies....I have read countless studies on the benefits of b___stfeeding and in all of those they do state that it boosts the immune system and etc etc and so that article was a little comforting to me to know that my child was born with what he needed and he got that from me through the placenta......it does make me feel better Thanks.....PBJ I think you make some pretty good points because in my understanding of science you have a hypothesis and you conduct tests in which the control groups should be as alike in situation as possible and with humans it is very difficult to keep any group controlled.......and the fact that the group is controlled is the whole point in trying to prove a hypothesis.....if your group eats differant things growing up, if they are in differant economic status's, if they were'nt even controlled as far as only 1 child families ie more or less attention due to large amounts of children it is hard ....I would think to reach a real hard scientific conclusion of anything so drastic as saying conclusively bf babies are smarter than formula fed babies......I must say though when I got pregnant I totally bought into the whole thing kit and kabootle and while I do agree that there has to be some advantages for the child and mom in a b___stfeeding environment I do not believe it is as drastic as they make it out to be......and let me just say I think men are the ones who push this so hard and they have no idea of what it is like nor will they ever.....I get soooo fired up when a man has the nerve to question and lecture me on the benefits of b___stfeeding and tells me how I should be feeding my baby!!!!! oooohhhhh

 

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