Why Soy Help

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AshleyB - January 25

Hi, I've been reading up on colic, acid reflux, milk allergies, trying to figure out what is going on with my 7wk old son. We started out on Similac advance, and he was very fussy and gassy and generally uncomfortable all the time, pulling up his legs having a hard tight belly, etc. So the pedi switched us to soy isomil and he's been really constipated ever since and the pedi said to just give him 2-4oz of water every day in between feedings. The gas doesn't seem quite so bad, But he's still having belly aches or something, because he just cries horrible sometimes after feeding. I've tried keeping him upright during and after feedings thinking maybe he has reflux, and ive tried mylicon drops too. Nothing is helping. He's so crabby, I just don't know what to do. There are several hours a day these last few days that he just wails and I walk the floor with him and nothing helps. He's been on the soy for over 3wks. I've read that soy is usually a last resort, so why did they have us try that first?? I started out using the playtex dropins bottles, then tried the dr brown's bottles and just today bought some avent ones and decided to try them. No real difference with any of them so far. Oh, I;ve tried the gripe water thing too,--- no change. I was thinking of switching to enfamil gentlease, but the doc said to just give him the water for the constipation and we'll see how he is in another 2 wks. Well I just want to fix him! He's only pooping every 3 days and its usually an allday event and is hard. I can't really put him down, what do you ladies think? **Should I just say, screw the pedi and try the gentlease? Is 3.5 wks is long enough to be adjusted and notice a difference with the new formula? Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

 

eclipse - January 25

Ok-here's what happened with me. Very similar to you, down to the floor walking and miserable baby. What stopped me with the soy is that his poop started smelling like vomit (sorry, tmi) and he acted miserable and sort of sick. I switched to the enfamil gentlease (suggested by my pediatrician) and had already been through regular formula, soy, prosobee soy, and hypoallergenic. No lie, he is in the best shape of his life with the gentlease. Most of the problems have stopped. He is much happier and sleeps much much better. I do give him mylicon drops every other feeding to help his tummy keep doing its job, and it is working beautifully. You may want to gradually switch him over though, so his system doesn't go haywire(yep, made that mistake too.) Remember, your pediatrician only sees him for a short 15 minute time period-you are with him all the time. Do what you need to, but that is my experience and recommendation. Let me know if you do it and how it works for you.

 

eclipse - January 25

And 3.5 weeks is plenty of time-you should have noticed a difference, and his poop should not be hard. Plus, babies aren't supposed to have too much water by itself-he would have to have tons to pa__s that stool! Poor baby. I hope he gets feeling better soon. I still keep my little one upright after feeding just in case he has some reflux as well. The combo of the formula and those actions have "cured" him.

 

Kara H. - January 25

You may also reading The Happiest Baby On The Block. It is about comforting babies thru colic. It was a life saver for us. Some babies get the hard bellies because they swallow so much air from crying from the colic. I don't see anything wrong with trying the gentlease, just make a gentle transistion. Do 3/4 old brand 1/4 new the first day, then do 1/2 old 1/2 new the next day and so on so you take four days before they are completely on the new formula. I switched a couple of times for different reasons, and always had the best results when I made the switch over a couple of days.

 

Kara H. - January 25

I meant " you should also read..."

 

eclipse - January 25

that is a great book, btw. Very helpful

 

AshleyB - January 25

Thanks ladies- I'm going to try the gentlease, i'll buy some tomorrow. I've heard lots of good stories about it. I did switch from similac soy to the enfamil and I did switch him gradually. I will definately do that again. I don't know why my doc didn't suggest switching him gradually- ant vet will tell you to do it that way with animals. Anyway, hopefully this switch will do the trick.

 

Bonnie - January 25

First let me say I SO know how you feel on this, I have been there a thousand times over with my now, one year old. The first 2 months of his life was a nightmare. We still deal with reflux and he sees a GI specialist so let me tell you some things I have learned along the way. You don't have to gradually switch things over. It might help a little bit, but regardless of what you do, anytime you switch to a new formula it takes a good 2 weeks to settle into their system. My first suggestion is to go back to your pediatrician and discuss with him what is going on. He may suggest you now switch to Nutramigen or Ailemntum (the hypoallergenics). If he suggests it, try it and prefer for another 2 weeks of hell. But it is worth a shot to see. Gentlease is like a cross between those and regular formula. It is half way broken down. So if he does not react well to the hypoallergenics, the Gentlease will not be any better. If he DOES reacte better on the hypoallergenics, you can always see how he tolerates the Gentlease later. (Note: back then I also bought a canister of that to try but never got to because the doc switched him straight to hypoalelrgenics, lol). ............Now, if the hypoallergenics do not work, you need to go back to him yet again. Do NOT be afraid to keep going back to your pediatrcian. Mine treates me like a hypocondriac mother until finally he ordered an upper GI which confirmed the reflux. Then they were kissing my b___t. now we have a new ped). (more to come, lol...)

 

Bonnie - January 25

NOW....on the subject of reflux, take a look at infantrefluxdisease.com and look at the signs and symptoms and see what you think. there is also a great section on dealing with doctors. Mason had what was called silent reflux (he did not spit up). He also was a comfort eater (most refluxers refuse to eat) so it was easy for the doc to overlook it on him. You need to have a long talk with your doctor. If you are not being listened to properly, ask for a GI referral. Personally, I think you should ask for one anyway. The water reference does not seem right for a baby that age, Mason ALSO suffers from chronic constipation and is on medication for that. You need a doctor who knows how to deal with tummy issues to find out what is going on with your lil man..................The bad news in all of this. Tehre is no easy way to determin what is wrong. Reflux tests and allergy tests are not very accurate. What's more, a medication that works on one child does not work on another. It is a HUGE guessing game and it takes time to sort it out. The good news, it is not forever. It WILL get sorted, but you are going to have to set yourself up that it may take time. It is VERY hard to sit there and wait when your LO screams at you begging for help. It is SO GD tough. Lastly, if you think you are dealing with reflux, post on the message boards there. There are so many mommies going through this and it really helps to have someone to vent to. (I am Mirra on those boards)

 

Bonnie - January 25

(Damn I am long winded)....I also wrote an article about what mason and I went through. Maybe it will help you. Lose any dashes but keep the underscores_................a__sociatedcontent.com/article/88167/the_symptoms_of_silent_reflux.html

 

Bonnie - January 25

Sorry about my 1,000 typos. I wrote fast. *blush*

 

Kara H. - January 25

Bonnie...how late was your last cup of coffee tonight? ;)

 

AshleyB - January 25

Thanks Bonnie! Sounds like you know your stuff! Garrett does have a couple of the symtoms of reflux, but he too is a comfort feeder I think. He'll fuss and fuss and take more and more milk and very rarely spits up. But he arches his back and sticks his b___t out and his head back when he's crying sometimes when I'm holding him and I wonder if that has something to do with reflux, I don't know. I was going to call the pedi to see if they'd see him tomorrow, just to be safe before weekend comes. I wonder if maybe he has an earache or something I can't see like that, too, I don't konw, I'm grasping for straws here. The crying isn't always at or after feeding times either which makes me wonder if it's reflux or not. and he isn't afraid to eat either. Usually we'll have a good day, then a bad day and so on. So it's not really regular either.

 

Bonnie - January 25

Kara.../slap (lol)...........He doesn't have to always cry to be reflux. mason was a HUGE eater. How big is your lil man? Does eat over eat? Overeating can be a sign of reflux because it sooths the burning esophagus. Arching is a major sign as well, though they can arch when ticked off. The reason they arch is because it stretches out the esophagus and eases up on the pain. If you find him arching his head back a lot, that is a big indication. Mason used to sleep on his side back then with his head way back. It looked so cute, but I later learned this was a big reflux thing. (no dashes) i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/BCreevy/P1010015.jpg ...........Does he choke a lot? Silent reflux means the food still comes up but they swallow it back down. This leads to a lot of swallowing soudns and choking, like you just dumped him in a pool. How often does he cry? Is he consolable? How does he sleep?

 

AshleyB - January 26

The more I really read on it, I think maybe the formula just doesn't agree with him, like he's got an upset belly or is just ga__sy. Sometimes I can actually just hear his little tummy gurgling with gas. Like tonight he was doing ok, not crying and then I heard his stomach making noises, and then he started balling, so I'm hoping maybe that's all it is. That would definatly be easier to deal with than the allergies and all that. Anyway, also, he doesnt mind laying down flat, and he sleeps pretty good at night, usually 4-5hrs at a time the first stretch.

 

Bonnie - January 26

Well, it certainly wont hurt you to try the Gentlease and see how it goes then. If that doesnt work, try the hypoallergenic from there (IF the doc recommends it). The hypos are a lot of money. So if you don't think you are dealing with reflux, give the Gentlease a shot and see how it goes. Im crossing my fingers for ya!

 

AshleyB - January 26

He eats normal for his age. He usually eats around 4oz at a time every 3 hrs. Sometimes a little more or less. Just depends. He doesn't choke much if at all. Very rarely.Doesn't really cough either. Tonight I was able to console him, however last night he cried kinda hard for over 2 hrs. there wasn't anything I could do. Walking back and forth helped at times, but not much. He does arch his back when I'm cradling him sometimes though, usually when he's already crying, so I don't know if it's just cuz he's ticked off or upset already, or if it's the reflux thing. He doesn't sleep like that or anything.

 

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