Ok Gals Which Is REALLY Best Day To Start Opk

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lisa z - June 17

Alright so how many of us have spent $$$ on opk's and preg tests...I am sick of peeing on sticks, I really want to conceive (have had 2 mc's, back in the saddle again). I was starting them around day 10 or 11 because I seem to now be on 27 instead of 28 day cycle like I always was. This last d&c seemed to change my cycle a little. Anyway, based on experience not the pamphlet in the box what is everyone else doing???? Thanks.

 

Chas - June 17

Hi Lisa, I know what you mean!! This gets so confusing. I am trying to determine O right now. I took an opk yesterday and today and both negative. But, for me in the past I always O on cd11. Today is cd10 and still no positive opk! I am going to try another one later this afternoon. I had a d&c two months ago. My period last month was only 25 days, but I got positive opk at cd10 and ewcm on cd11, so I think I o'd then. I am just confused now as to why I haven't gotten a positive opk yet this cycle. Could I have already ovulated? I don't think so, I guess I will just have to keep testing and looking for cm. Maybe I will be back at a longer cycle this month?? Who knows! It makes it hard though when you are trying to get the timing just right!!! and with us it is crucial, because dh has a low count and we try to abstain for three days up until O. It seems like you are testing at the right times for a 27 day cycle. The earliest I have ever ovulated was on cd9, I tend to have shorter cycles anyway. But you wouldn't want to miss the right day ! Keep testing !

 

Angela Mac - June 17

Hi ladies, I just went through this last month. I had to use one of those tests for the first time ever because I had to find my LH surge for testing I was doing to find oout why I keep having mc's. Anyway what I found is do the opk in the afternoon and not morning. For some reason as close to 4 pm is best. Try and hold in your urine for as close to 4 hours that you can. Do not use Clear Blue Easy....I never even got a faint line with any of their tests. I know it's a lot of money but they say it's best to use more than 1 brand which is what I did. I didn't want to have to wait a whole another month to get my tests done. The other test I used was First Response. I got a light line right away. I started on day 7 because my cycles since my mc's has been around 25 days. I got my LH surge on day 11 I believe. The line wasn't as thick as the control line but definately was as dark as it. I even had my husband checking them. I still never got a line with the CBE brand. I'm mad I spent $30 on that test and it was worthless. I would have seen my LH surge and it would have screwed up my whole month of testing. Anyway it must have been right on the money because I got af on day 26. My advice is to try different brands, and the cycle chart tyhey go by seems to be pretty accurate. Good luck ladies.

 

Morrison1 - June 17

Are you girls testing at the same time every day, in the afternoon or evening, after not urinating for at least 3, if not 4, hours? If so, your tests SHOULD be fairly accurate. The problem is that the test line has to be as dark or darker than the control line. If you simply have a line, but it is lighter than the control line, then you are not having your surge. Remember, the thing that makes these tricky is the fact that we always have LH in our bodies, the opk's job is to detect the surge just before o. I would also suggest to check CM and try temping along with your opk - a rise in your temps will verify whether you o'd or not. I have found that just using an opk isn't quite enough, so I do all 3. Also, I use the store brand Rite Aid opks, and they have been fine and very consistent. Good luck and baby dust!!

 

SaraH - June 18

Hey lisa, I use Natural Family Planning which uses CM to determine O days, and it's worked well so far (I used it as birth control for 2 years and have used it to get pregnant with both m/c -1st month both times). I've found that I almost always O at about 9-10 days after last day of AF, but my cycle is a little longer than yours (about 29). So...don't know if that helps but that puts me at O on average at about 14-16 days after first day of AF. ALL women get their AF about 13 days (give or take 1-2 days) after they ovulate (the days before you O are what vary from women to women, the days after you O are almost always about 13 for everyone). So if you have a 27 day cycle you probably O about day 14 + or - a day or two. Hopefully that helps alittle bit anyways good luck and I hope you get pregnant soon.

 

Morrison1 - June 18

SaraH - Not everyone's luteal phase is 13 days, in fact, it can range anywhere from 10-16 days. The thing is that usually your luteal phase will not vary much once you have established, for yourself, how long it is. So, if your LP is 16 days, then it should stay right at 16, give or take one day. If the LP is UNDER 10, then it is not long enough to sustain a pregnancy. Short luteal phases are also referred to as a Luteal Phase Defect and can be quite common. Progesterone supplements can help lengthen that phase. And the 28 day cycle with o on CD14 is not the norm for everyone. Many things can cause a late ovulation, so your follicular phase might change due to stress, medicine, illness, etc. In which case, your period may take longer to arrive as your Luteal Phase will probably remain the same whether you ovulate early, late or on time. Not trying to correct so much as clarify since I know MANY women who do not fall into that 28 day cycle, 14 days to o, 14 day luteal phase box.

 

Morrison1 - June 18

I was going to follow that up with suggesting that the combination of temping, checking cm, checking cp are all things that will help you determine when you o. You can expect to o around the same time each month unless there are outside factors that might alter it.

 

jo-ann - June 18

Hi ladies, I hope you don't mind if I ask a quick question, Morrison1, you seem very clued up on cycles perhaps you could help me. I had an MC at the begining of may, it was a blighted ovum, however I didn't start bleeding until the 23rd ,of may, some 3 wks later. My Dr told me to take that as the first day of a new cycle. DH and I were keen to try again so I began to use OPK's. My chart said that I should have O'd on the 6th of June, with AF due on the 19th of June, however my OPK said that I didn't O until the15th June. Does that mean that my AF will turn up 14 days from then or is it still due on Monday???? If it is still due on Monday does that mean that my LP is too short to sustain another pregnancy? Please help, I'm so confused and worried. Thankyou.

 

Morrison1 - June 18

Good morning JO - first off, try not to worry. That, of course, is the worst thing we can do though it's easier said than done (I know). First, I am very sorry for your loss. It's not uncommon for a missed miscarriage to take awhile to shake out, and that seems like what you had. Meaning, you knew you had lost the fetus long before the bleeding began. It is true that the first day of your actual bleeding (not spotting) will count as the first day of your new cycle, so your CD1 would definitely have been the 23rd. From there, in a normal cycle, you would usually ovulate at the two week mark - give or take a few days. However, after a miscarriage, you must wait for the HCG levels to completely leave your system before you can ovulate again. The HCG is the same hormone picked up by pregnancy tests, and can often take weeks after the bleeding or m/c to get down to a level under 5. Often, doctors will have you come back for HCG testing every week to be sure the level is in fact dropping, but it doesn't sound like yours did. So, that alone could stretch out your follicular phase quite a bit from the "normal" 14-16 day period to 21 or 22 days. I normally o on CD14 or 15, but after m/c #1, I o'd on CD22 and after m/c #2, I o'd on CD17 or 19 (not 100% sure). That HCG has to be to zero before your body will release another egg, but once it hits zero, you could ovulate almost immediately. As for your chart - is your chart actually showing at least a .4 increase in temp on the 7th (after it says you o'd and then sustained higher temps after that)? If you see a clear bi-phasic temp pattern then you may have o'd on the 6th. OPKs are hard to read sometimes...but if you have been charting for a few months at least then you should be able to see how long your luteal phase usually is (without pregnancy). If it is usually 14 days, then it should continue to be 14 days. LP doesn't usually change with women - it is pretty consistent and only dependant on when the actual o occurred. If you o'd on the 15th, you will still have to wait 14 days for af. If your af shows on monday or tuesday, then you o'd on the 6th. Do you use an online charting system? If so, I'd be happy to take a look at it. Hope that helps!!

 

jo-ann - June 18

Hi Morrisson1, thankyou for your advice. I only started charting this month following my MC, my cycle has always been a bit up the wall, I'm just hoping that it either returns to normal or that I get a BFP. Thanks again, I feel much better now you've put me in the picture.

 

Morrison1 - June 18

No problem. Your cycle should be back on track after you ovulate...it is just the post m/c, pre-ovulation time frame that can get screwy. If you do not mind me asking - how far along were you? I noticed that the doctor did not suggest a D&C? Or did you just decided against it? I had both m/c naturally as well. Either way, the HCG can still take awhile to drop, but I have heard that, ironically, the farther you are, the quicker it drops - but I have not had that confirmed medically. Anyway, look at your chart to see where your temp rise is. You should see a definite increase of at least .4 degrees the day after you o and then your temps will stay above that coverline for the rest of your luteal phase (or longer if you are pregnant). If you hit 14 full days and keep going, chances are you ARE pregnant, but most of us test before that because we are testaholics! I would go with your temping and chart over your opk if there is a bi-phasic jump like that. I wish you luck and baby dust! I am hoping for a bfp right now, too...and a healthy implant. Baby dust!

 

Morrison1 - June 18

Oh, and I started charting right after my 1st m/c too. I had a long follicular phast (before o - I o'd on CD22) and a VERY short luteal phase (9 days). Since I have started acupuncture, my LPs have increased to 14 days.

 

jo-ann - June 18

Morrisson1 I was 6 wks when I had my last MC. I've had 3 MC's in total, none farther on than 9 wks though. I also managed to carry one DS to term, but I was on bed rest for 7 months as I kept threatening MC. I've tried to monitor my temp, but that really doesn't change much for me, I'm always verging on pyrexia at 37.4 regardless of cycle. My body is a mess! I just hope that I get a BFP and safe implant, I couldn't bear another MC, I'd probably give up. Thanks again for your help. Good luck, I hope you get a BFP soon.

 

Morrison1 - June 18

Jo-ann - have you had any testing done? I have had some, and had other blood taken yesterday, but I have been doing acupuncture for fertility and it is the BEST thing I have done so far. I am calmer, my temps are FAR more regulated and my cycle is pretty even and normal. I used to have much short luteal phases. I only say this because the docs will just give you pill after pill and that won't necessarily help your overall cycle to calm down and regulate itself. Either way, good luck. I know how you feel. I haven't had a live birth yet, myself and am hoping for the best.

 

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