TTC This Month Doc Says I Won T Pg Hormones Still There

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suzzieq - March 21

I have chatted with alot of you ladies and love the feedback I recieve. So as some of you may know, I have been soooo excited about ttc this week actually!! Well, ob doctor had his nurse call me last night to tell me I need more blood work done. I had it done on the 13th, he's just getting back to me, and my levels are just under 5. When I asked if I can still concieve this month she said no. My excitement dropped so fast I thought I heard my heart hit the floor. I thought I was under the impression that numbers under 5 were ok!! Any one have any info for me or a story similar and still got pg when they were not at zero? Thanks ladies.

 

JuJu - March 21

Hi Suzzieq; that's so disappointing for you :( As far as I know, you have to be pretty much at zero to ovulate....I took 4 weeks to ovulate after my 1st m/c, and so I a__sume that it took my hCG levels almost 4 weeks to drop to zero. Anyway, the good news is you're not far off - shouldn't take long for your levels to drop to zero now. Good Luck!

 

deltabwa - March 21

I wonder if they want you to wait a cycle to get your body back to normal. there are alot of different docs that give alot of diff waiting periods. some docs want you to wait 1 month some 3 some none. i would call, them back and ask their reasoning. did she not give you a reason? i am pretty sure that levels under 5 are considered zero. i remember reading that a couple times on one of these threads i think it was the Nov/Dec thread. SUSAN replied to it as well as a couple other ppl saying that under 5 is normal and you can O any time.

 

Susan W - March 21

Yes, anything under 5 is usually considered non-pregnant and equivalent to zero. That's because some perfectly normal, non-pregnant people, like some men (!) have a reading of 2 for HCG. I would call back and ask why specifically she thinks you cannot ttc this month. It could be she wants to you have one normal cycle first, which is perfectly acceptable if that's the explanation.

 

suzzieq - March 21

That would be fine, but when I went on the 13th I was just at the end of 1st af and he said yes, ttc again!!! I read those other threads so thats why I feel so confused now. I really don't think I oed between m/c and af as I noticed dryness the whole time between them. So have I completed a whole cycle yet? Just felt so discouraged after the call, thats what I get for letting excitement take over!

 

Morrison1 - March 21

Suzzie - I am certainly no doctor, but his backtracking seems odd. If you have already had one AF, then you should be well under 0 hcg...you very well could have o'd last month, even if you weren't aware. Remember, you weren't looking for things like cm and cp then, and your cm may have been a little different b/c of the m/c. Also, if your last blood test was on the 13th, and it was 5, I would be you are as close to 0 as you are ever going to get (as Susan said, some people never hit a true 0), but my doctor has also told me that anything under 5 is considered 0. Like everyone else said, I would call them back and ask him why he seemed to change his mind after telling you it was fine to ttc and why he wants you to have more bloodwork. Let us know how it goes!

 

Bethpi - March 21

I had a 2nd m/c on March 3rd-- just saw my ob/gyn yesterday-as we are TTC again and she said even if you have 1 cell you wont ovulate...the count needs to be at 0 to ovulate....so off I go for more bloodwork...make sure I'm at 0. good luck and baby dust!

 

suzzieq - March 21

Thanks girls!! I had to leave a voice mail for my doc, so that could take another week for him to get back to me. I really like him but his schedule is always so full. Yesturday the nurse said it was 4.87 or something. But I want to have the blood work done anyhow, that should tell me what my normal level is anyways, right? Then I will know just in case future circ_mstances come about again.

 

Susan W - March 21

In one study I came across where they were researching the normal levels of HCG in non-pregnant women and men, one woman had an HCG of like 4.6-4.8 and she was definitely NOT pregnant. That could be your normal. Anything under 5 (or whatever the reference range of the lab is set at, as a couple are 9 or so -- big scientific discussion on that we don't need to go into) is considered to be zero. I'd think that since you had an AF, you ovulated. Your HCG is normal for you. I'd ask why your doctor doesn't want to you start ttc. There could be another reason, but it does seem like this doctor has backed up on you without explanation.

 

suzzieq - March 21

Susan, when I saw my doc on the 13th he told me it was fine ttc this month and have fun and hoped to see me back shortly bringing good news!! I have been trying to find a site that will tell me if my cp and cm will go through all its changes even though I may not o. Do you think my cp would change if I wasn't going to o soon? I am just looking for that glimmer of hope! From all the sites I did read, 5 or below was like a negative, must my doc is one of those who thinks it has to be right at zero!! Delta, as I was going back to previous threads I saw the one you posted on 2/22 about Answer Daily O Tracker. That is what I am using now. I noticed the same thing yesturday about the test line being half very faint and the other half being rather dark. When I tested at 11:30 am today there was not even a faint line. No one answered your post and that sucks, but did you ever find out anything more about those kind of results?

 

deltabwa - March 21

SUZIE - peeonastick.com says that the Answer company says it has to be more than 50%. i later saw that when it was positive, it was no doubt. unfortunately you need a positive to be sure that the neg was neg.

 

suzzieq - March 21

Thanks Delta! Thank you all! I guess I just have to wait for blood work again. I still want ttc, that shouldn't be a problem should it? Since the test on the 13th said 4.8 or whatever, it was 4.something, maybe it is further down now. Will that screw up ovulation though?

 

deltabwa - March 21

i was very very dry up until after O the 2nd month and i did still O so you could have still O'd. i wouldnt say jsut cuz you were dry you didn't O. i def. O'd and didn't start getting wet until 3 weeks ago and I've had 2 af's so it's still possible. i would however wait to hear why your doc is now backtracking with waiting to ttc. i dont think it would screw anything up but there must be a reason your doc is now chaning his mind. talk to him first.

 

suzzieq - March 21

Hi Delta and Susan, thanks for getting back to me and giving me info! The doc didn't tell me to stop ttc this month, just said it probably won't happen with level of hcg. But still question, would my body be giving me the signs, fertile cm, high and open cp, if I wasn't going to o?

 

Susan W - March 22

I think you will O. Your HCG level is in the non-pregnant range. If it was higher, it would shut off your system and it would not be changing as you are noticing, as there's no biologic reason to go through all that if an egg isn't going to be released. Your body would think it was pregnant and not go through this hoopla. You might not have a lot of cm to notice; some women don't make much. I make enough for ten women. But you will ovulate. You will get pregnant. It may take a few months -- in perfect conditions, pregnancy only happens 25% of the time -- but it will happen.

 

Susan W - March 22

Oh, and I think sometimes there is a huge confusion over what is really meant by zero when a doctor says that word. I would ask your doctor if he is looking for a true zero, or under the reference range for zero, which is considered zero. I would hope the second, as there are perfectly healthy people running around with HCG levels of like 2, including some men (now, if only they could be pregnant!). But it gives you some idea of what the doctor is thinking. But if they want a true zero, then they have to test you all the way down, and I haven't seen that many people on here say that's what their doctor did. Most say their doctor cut them loose at 5 or even a bit higher and didn't follow all the way down. Then, imho, who's to say they actually ever reached true zero, or did they stop at 1.8, or 2.4 or what? Does it make a difference. NO. . .. Sorry for the rambling. I'm trying to keep myself busy and not thinking about all this water I'm trying to drink before this afternoon's decisive u/s. But it seems to turn into diarrhea of the fingers!

 

suzzieq - March 22

Thanks Susan! And I don't mind at all about the rambling! Anytime, I am a great listener, I guess reader in this case!! I hate having to drink all that water and then trying like heck to hold it!! Not looking forward to that, hope you get through it ok! VERY BEST LUCK TODAY =:)))

 

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