Immunization Shots Oprah Special

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JoJo123 - October 5

Have any of you seen the Oprah special regarding austism? Some friends of mine were telling me about it. Apparently they were talking about how the immunization shot is becoming more and more of a factor as to why kids are autistic. They are still researching it. But, if you don't give your child the shot, they can't attend school. I don't understand it. Just curious if anyone has heard anything on this. Thanks!

 

sarah21 - October 5

Your children CAN go to school if they get the shot-- you fill out a form stating you object to immunizations. My parents used the religious objection for me and I went all through school just fine. I heard about the autism thing and I kinda started the whole thing on the March thread. I read on one autism site that 1 in 44 males is diagnosed with autism now. HOLY COW! That's scary. Something is going on and they need to find out what it is. Some Dr.'s are now recommending that you get the vaccinations spread out-- they think maybe it's giving a wrong combination causing some kind of reaction. There's a ton of information online, all conflicting. My husband and I talked about it and pretty much decided since we're going to homeschool anyway, that we'll go ahead and take our chances without vaccinations. I couldn't live with myself if something happened, even if it wasn't from the vaccinations. There's just too much evidence going both ways.

 

JoJo123 - October 5

Thanks for the input Sarah :) I was thinking that I would just do the shots that I had to have (first time mom here) and maybe do the immunization shot later. Like you said- space them out. That way - maybe they would have more testings done by then too. My brother-in-law is autistic (and there are many stages) but after 20+ years, it has gotten worse and I see my momther-in-law cry about it and it hurts me so much.

 

sarah21 - October 5

Yeah it is tough to watch. I work at a University and one of my student workers is autistic. It is so hard to communicate with her sometimes and she has trouble communicating, too. She just sits and draws all day and talks to herself.

 

Cevvin - October 6

just remember these is a reason why they do immunizations. Read into what they immunize for and weigh whether you want your child to have a chance to have autism, or a chance to have several deadly deseases.

 

swollenangel - October 8

so glad you raised this topid Jojo- that episode of Oprah is only airing tonight... here is South Africa... and i was wondering whether or not i should give it miss! but now, i will def be watching it!!

 

sarah21 - October 8

Yeah but if I have a boy, he has a 1 in 44 chance of autism possibly due to vaccines. Or he has a what in what chance of one of the diseases that are virtually non-existent in the US? My husband and I talked and researched more this weekend and decided since we're homeschooling and the baby will be at my mom's house during the day until I am a stay at home mom, that we will not risk the vaccinations, at least until the baby is older.

 

Happymommy - October 8

I agree that this is a difficult subject. I am strongly in favor of vaccinations. In college I researched and gave a speech on the chances of adverse effects from vaccinations verses the chances of contracting the diseases. The chances of getting a disease is much higher than the risk of serious effects from vaccinations. Research shows a possible link between vaccinations and autism, but it is still very debatable and no proof as been found yet. In the last year there were outbreaks of polio in communities where children were not immunized (mostly Amish, I think). So the diseases can still be contracted. Also, because of vaccinations, the diseases are stronger and more deadly. My children will all be vaccinated, but I do wish there were not so many.

 

Graveyard_Nurse - October 11

I am sure my anser will be taken out of context but anyhoo...I am a RN some PP spoke about these vaccinations being for virtually non-existent diseases...actually you are wrong MANY MANY diseases that were thought irradicated in the US are reappearing for various reasons 1. Immigrants coming to this country without our level of vaccinations or none at all...many illegal coming with disease that is common in their country 2.False sense of security from parents who think these diseases won't happen to them....you are only as protected as the people around you....if everyone stops vaccinations we will ALL pay the consequence. 3. People risking the chance of their children coming down with diseases that CAN be deadly. 4. People Travel so much more than in the past becoming exposed and carriers to different things BRINGING THEM HOME Unknowingly.... I believe after doing my research in nursing school that alot of these things w/ autism is coincidence and now we recognize autism and autism spectrum disorders...there are many different kinds. I had my son vaccinated, and will have my new baby... I would rather be proactive than rely on other people to protect me and my family from getting sick...which is what I would be doing by NOT vaccinating. Relying on others to keep my kids healthy, rather than catching measles/mumps by sitting next to someone.

 

Happymommy - October 11

Graveyard nurse, I found your answer very interesting b/c I have a good friend who is a doc, and is very compa__sionate and concerned about his patients. He said almost exactly what you said-that people who do not vaccinate are relying on others to keep their own kids healthy. Please take no offense those who are choosing not to vaccinate, but the truth is that if all of us did that we would be facing epidemics and huge outbreaks of deadly diseases.

 

joy28 - October 11

I had recently heard something about this, but I was thinking they just said there was little or no evidence tying vaccinations to autism. I know it was a string belief in the past, but I also heard that it was vaccines that contained mercury and nowadays, very few to none contain mercury. I'm really not sure where I read this but it was recently... I'll try to find the info a post the link. It's the same with Flu shots, that was on the today show this am and parents fear of their children getting sick from the shot is actually more deadly. Many don't realize the flu can easily kill young children. Scary,

 

sarah21 - October 11

I take extreme offense at the insinuation that I am relying on others to keep my children healthy. If I was, I would let other people give them vaccinations that I deem unsafe just because some people think they are safe. It is my job as a parent to make sure my children are healthy to the best of my ability. It happens all the time that there are mistakes made with vaccinations, for instance the polio vaccine that was giving kids polio since it was a LIVE polio virus given to kids under 2. HELLO! I, for one, do not want to find out that in 10 years, oops, we can't give kids this vaccine because of this... I didn't get mine until I was 12 and was going out of the country, I'm here today. I'm not saying I'll never vaccinate my kids, but as for doing it when they're infants, no way. Especially when the CDC is currently investigating their vaccines to see what's wrong, which they are. And 1 in 44 male kids getting autism-- that is cla__sified as an epidemic in my opinion. And that Amish communities, where they don't vaccinate, have much, much, much lower incidences of autism, I think is something worth investigating. But hey, I'm all for everyone else risking their child's mental health to keep diseases low, I'm just not willing to risk it for my own.

 

jennifer_33106 - October 11

Dang. haha We were talking about this very subject the other day. I didnt know anything on either side. In my opinion, AND THIS IS JUST MY OPINION..... I am going to have my child vaccinated. Their is always some risk to any medication or vaccionation you take and some will not work for everyone. BUT while I dont wanna risk my child for autism, I dont wanna subject them to 100's of potentially deadly viruses either. So JMO I would rather have a child with Autism then no child at all. I am not bashing anyone for thier beliefs. This convo just made me realize what I wanna do regarding the subject. But regardless of if you wanna vaccinate or if you dont, I wish you the healthiest children possible!! :D

 

jennifer_33106 - October 11

BUT I wanna say, I will question and badger every shot before it is given to my child. I will know the side effects as well as the risks. They will not give her anything with out my knowledge as I dont entirely trust everything feed to me. haha Just wanted to add that.

 

sarah21 - October 11

Good for you Jen!

 

Happymommy - October 11

Sarah--I really am sorry if I offended you by my statements. I enjoy what you have had to say on this forum and I hope that we can discuss this in a very friendly way even though we are of differing opinions :) I come from a group of family and friends who love to debate, and its what I'm used to and I truly just want to debate the issue-not attack the person if that makes sense. Anyways, what I meant when I said was that those who do not vaccinate are relying on others is not that you are intentionally relying on others, but that if most children were not vaccinated there would not be such a low risk for disease. And it is true that the autism link (if there is one it has not been proven) is believed to be caused by mercury which is no longer used in vaccines. No doubt there is some risk with vaccinations, but the truth is the risk of contracting disease is much higher. Look up some of the statistics. I looked it up and the polio outbreak I mentioned earlier was in an Amish community in Minnesota in 2005.

 

jennifer_33106 - October 11

A friend gave me this website. Go to babycenter.com and type immunizations in the search box. You get alot of answers!

 

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