Question For Granpa Viv

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DanielleIsJsMommy - April 6

You had made a comment to the effect that HCG was not the hormone that causes most of the early signs of pregnancy. What hormone is it then? Is it progesterone?

 

meandmyself - April 6

Sort of reminds me of First Reponse's commercial (I think it is FR anyway).. About detecting another hormone variant to be able to get earlier results. Anyhow, I have no point. I have a headache and just trying to keep my mind off it!

 

Amber #2 - April 6

I believe that it is progesterone that causes your pregnancy symptoms.

 

Emma2 - April 6

progesterone is the hormone that gives you PMS and early pregnancy signs. That is why its so unreliable until you test.

 

Lin - April 6

Yep, as Emma said, progesterone causes both pregnancy and pms symptoms and, if you care, estrogen is what causes ovulation symptoms.

 

DanielleIsJsMommy - April 6

Thank you ladies. I have seen some people on these forums that claim that you can't have early pregnancy signs until after implantation because the signs are caused by HCG. It's a relief to know that even though I haven't gotten my BFP yet, the symptoms I'm having may not just be in my head.......or are they? :)

 

Emma2 - April 6

Well techincally they are right. True pregnancy symptoms are only once you implant. Progesterone cause PMS symptoms which so happen to be the same as early pregnancy. So really HCG hormone is the actual and only way to confirm pregnancy because Progesterone is gone once you implant. I don't know if this makes sense?

 

Celia - April 6

Progesterone doesn't disappear once implantation occurs, without progesterone a pregnancy cannot sustain itself... progesterone does cause alot of early pregnancy symptoms and continues to rise during pregnancy. Here's a brief description that I found....Progesterone is first produced by the corpus luteum of the ovary and production from this site is necessary for the first 8 weeks of pregnancy. From implantation of the embryo onwards for 40 weeks the placenta takes over the production of progesterone (see graph). The levels of progesterone increase dramatically all throughout pregnancy. Progesterone production is necessary for the safe maintenance of pregnancy and all pregnancies will fail if progesterone production is too low

 

Emma2 - April 6

Oh Ok Thanks Celia..I guess I misread that somehwere. Thank you for the clarification.

 

Emma2 - April 6

But being pregnant myself I can honestly say that HCG is much more powerful than progesterone and as its doubling every 3 days or so I feel more and more sick. I never felt much with progesterone alone.

 

Grandpa Viv - April 6

Hey, I got my Internet connection back after the storm blew down the cable. Thanks for the quote, Celia. One of the things I wonder about is the timing of early signs. The accepted wisdom is that you cannot have these until implantation occurs, but in fact the corpus luteum is putting out progesterone from the day of ovulation. Enough women claim to have early preg signs starting at ovulation that it makes you wonder if the corpus luteum is stimulated into overdrive by the presence of sperm. This would perhaps explain how a woman can have signs of pregnancy but end up with no implantation. Just a thought.

 

LisaD - April 6

when i was pregnant, i had more symptoms after my af was due then before except being tired and acne so i would have to agree with the hcg thing helping along the symptoms with preg.

 

Celia - April 6

I agree that the HCG is a major cause for alot of symptoms and is the only true pregnancy hormone, since all the other's are always there. The way my Dr explained it to me was...that there are several hormone's that play major roles in pregnancy and the increase of these can be blamed for symptom's but HCG rises the quickest and tend's to cause alot of the morning sickness and tiredness because it is rising so quickly. HCG quit's doubling around week 7? 8? and will drop down some around week 10? Not 100% sure about those weeks, so maybe you'll be feeling better soon! I'm 10 weeks tomorrow and hoping to get rid of this 24/7 morning sickness soon!

 

Emma2 - April 6

Celia, I am going on my 7th week now and I just started feeling extreme nausea and all day sickness. I hope it really does stop here because I hate it so much. I drive home from work and I am on the verge of tossing my cookies in my car while driving........Not pretty!!! How are you doing so far?

 

Celia - April 6

Emma I am sorry to hear it's kicking in! Mine started at 4.1 weeks with mild nausea and by 6.3 weeks turned into a 24/7 nightmare! I have been on phernergan for 2 weeks now and even though it will keep me from actually being sick (most of the time) I still always feel it in the back of my throat. I feel like i've had a stomach virus forever! I didn't have this with my first and wouldn't be pregnant again if I had (lol) My mom was basically bed ridden the whole 9 months with all 5 of her kids due to m/s... just hope i don't take after her. I know how you feel with driving..taking my son to school in the morning's feel's like i'm on a never ending roller coaster. I'll keep my finger's crossed it pa__ses for you soon! Glad to have you back Grandpa-viv.. hope you faired the storm ok.

 

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