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minkey, thanks for your reply. you've given me the confidence to demand it. ive mentioned it numerous times to 3 midwifes and one GP and all have given me the brush off, one midwife even said they couldn't measure it before i got pregnant - think she was overwhelmed by the amount i knew and all the questions. no embryos were ever examined as i refused the D & C the 3rd time and the other 2 were so early they said nothing would be there. i am so sure nothing was wrong with them as i had a scan at 6weeks and although there was development it wasn't enough and it slowly decreased till it stopped. it seems strange its always around the same time. think ill also look into acupuncture too. thanks for the advice. good luck to all. xx

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